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HulkSmash
02-04-2015, 06:46 PM
So I've owned a G75 in the past with a GTX 660m. Like the 600m the 970m and other laptop graphics chips are limited to 135+ on clock. But given how low temps are on this machine, it can definitely go higher. I used to force PStates on my 660m to go over the limit, and saw a very significant boost. Can the same be done on the 970m? The only other option to overclock over the 135+ limit would be a custom vbios, anyone tested or found anything?

NitroX
02-04-2015, 07:34 PM
So I've owned a G75 in the past with a GTX 660m. Like the 600m the 970m and other laptop graphics chips are limited to 135+ on clock. But given how low temps are on this machine, it can definitely go higher. I used to force PStates on my 660m to go over the limit, and saw a very significant boost. Can the same be done on the 970m? The only other option to overclock over the 135+ limit would be a custom vbios, anyone tested or found anything?
I think someone did find because I've seen GTX980M 8GB with a 1288Mhz core clock on 3D Mark Firestrike. I think it was a Clevo or an MSI. But it seems that these guys found a way to pass over 1260Mhz. My 3dMark Firestrike runs are only pushing the Gtx980m to a 1173Mhz even when I'm overclocking to 1260Mhz. The TurboBoost doesn't seem to work in 3DMark ...

Srry for the long one but I was maybe thinking that you might know how to get a full turbo boost in 3d Mark .

Btw, I've also owned a G75VW but with a GTX670m. I was also keeping that baby overclocked to +135Mhz and +400Mhz memory all the time. The temps were even lower than this GTX980m with stock clocks :)). So, yeah, I guess that card could have gotten past 135Mhz overclock easily.

BigDRim
02-04-2015, 08:38 PM
Srry for the long one but I was maybe thinking that you might know how to get a full turbo boost in 3d Mark .


Did you try maxing all the sliders related to turbo boost with Intel XTU? Don't know but that could help.

kingkaann
02-04-2015, 08:51 PM
So I've owned a G75 in the past with a GTX 660m. Like the 600m the 970m and other laptop graphics chips are limited to 135+ on clock. But given how low temps are on this machine, it can definitely go higher. I used to force PStates on my 660m to go over the limit, and saw a very significant boost. Can the same be done on the 970m? The only other option to overclock over the 135+ limit would be a custom vbios, anyone tested or found anything?


with a unlocked vbios..heres my score..46220

NitroX
02-04-2015, 09:41 PM
Did you try maxing all the sliders related to turbo boost with Intel XTU? Don't know but that could help.

I was talking about the GPU not the CPU :) .

@Kingkaan: It's nice, but could you also put the frequencies of the core/memory used ? The people with Gtx980m won't understand too much from this score because they have quite different ones. Thank you!

kingkaann
02-04-2015, 09:59 PM
I was talking about the GPU not the CPU :) .

@Kingkaan: It's nice, but could you also put the frequencies of the core/memory used ? The people with Gtx980m won't understand too much from this score because they have quite different ones. Thank you!

Definitely. im using a custom vbios allowed me to add almost +500 on the core. my core is at 1400 mhz my mem is at 6000 overclocked using gpu tweak. and beat gtx 980m stock clocks. stock 980m usually gets 12k on 3dmark11. a few other people on youtube were able to do this this card is a beast has a lot of overclocking potential.

BigDRim
02-04-2015, 10:12 PM
I was talking about the GPU not the CPU :) .

@Kingkaan: It's nice, but could you also put the frequencies of the core/memory used ? The people with Gtx980m won't understand too much from this score because they have quite different ones. Thank you!

Sorry read too fast :/

d0r1n
02-04-2015, 10:31 PM
the gtx 970m will never have the same performance as 980m,no matter what OC do u have it will be under gtx980m
the gtx 980 is 15-20% better than gtx 970m,but with OC the 970m will get as close as 5-10% under the gtx980

keep in mind that the comparison is with stock clock at 980m,with OC the 980m will be the same as 970 desktop version

kingkaann
02-04-2015, 10:46 PM
the gtx 970m will never have the same performance as 980m,no matter what OC do u have it will be under gtx980m
the gtx 980 is 15-20% better than gtx 970m,but with OC the 970m will get as close as 5-10% under the gtx980

keep in mind that the comparison is with stock clock at 980m,with OC the 980m will be the same as 970 desktop version

well sorry to burst your bubble my card is better than 980m stock clocks in any game any benchmark i've tested it next to 980m laptop right side by side. this is not a %5 %10 overclock. get your facts straight we are talking about going 500 mhz on the core that's %30 not %10. please stop talking out of your butt. im talking about results with facts here not my ideas.

kingkaann
02-04-2015, 10:49 PM
the gtx 970m will never have the same performance as 980m,no matter what OC do u have it will be under gtx980m
the gtx 980 is 15-20% better than gtx 970m,but with OC the 970m will get as close as 5-10% under the gtx980

keep in mind that the comparison is with stock clock at 980m,with OC the 980m will be the same as 970 desktop version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgk8hw2Afq0

d0r1n
02-05-2015, 02:15 AM
well sorry to burst your bubble my card is better than 980m stock clocks in any game any benchmark i've tested it next to 980m laptop right side by side. this is not a %5 %10 overclock. get your facts straight we are talking about going 500 mhz on the core that's %30 not %10. please stop talking out of your butt. im talking about results with facts here not my ideas.

so,in your short mind,u have to OC 30% the gtx970m to just reach the stock results of the gtx 980,but the 980 has OC too if u wanna do.
even with the 30% u get 11200 but i got 12000 at stock frecv with 980m,and with simple OC 10% i got almost 13000...imagine what 30% can do with 980m..so thats a bum for u,sorry to "burst your buble" kid

dont compare a 1500euro laptop with a 2500euro one,its a big diference
next time ask for more money from your parents to get a better laptop :))))

doerrrr@gmail.com
02-05-2015, 04:22 AM
the more you talk the more you sink kid. you obviously have no clue about anything and pulling things from your ass. get lost. go do some research learn a few things then come speak with your facts.

NitroX
02-05-2015, 09:57 AM
Now this topic went crazy...



well sorry to burst your bubble my card is better than 980m stock clocks in any game any benchmark i've tested it next to 980m laptop right side by side. this is not a %5 %10 overclock. get your facts straight we are talking about going 500 mhz on the core that's %30 not %10. please stop talking out of your butt. im talking about results with facts here not my ideas.

Could you explain how you managed to get a +500Mhz on the core and a 6000Mhz memory running stable ? I have the Gtx980M and with +135Mhz on the core and 6000Mhz memory I got a system shutdown while playing Assassin's Creed Unity. So I don't quite understand how could you run those clocks .

doerrrr@gmail.com
02-05-2015, 06:22 PM
Now this topic went crazy...




Could you explain how you managed to get a +500Mhz on the core and a 6000Mhz memory running stable ? I have the Gtx980M and with +135Mhz on the core and 6000Mhz memory I got a system shutdown while playing Assassin's Creed Unity. So I don't quite understand how could you run those clocks .

with a unlocked vbios. if you don't know how to flash you could brick your system or card. i've been doing it with the help of people who really know what they are doing. you probably don't have enough voltage or hitting TDP limit vbios has to be unlocked. pm me if you want to talk more.

rogdood
02-05-2015, 08:46 PM
Those are nice results, but I'm still worried about the wear forced upon the GPU. Sure, temps are awesome, Clevos are notoriously well cooled, but that's still a massive increase from stock settings. Simply put, just because it's cool, it doesn't mean it won't wear down faster, you'll just avoid overheating issues.

I guess we'll have to monitor your progress to see if the card actually holds up.

I am however curios if Clevo uses a different card than Asus; after all, some parts are better made than others.

MOHATAMIR
02-06-2015, 01:35 PM
Nice thread, i have the G751 JT, so how to overclock it? i never did please help :(

MOHATAMIR
02-06-2015, 01:37 PM
Nice thread, i have the G751 JT, so how to overclock the GPU? i never did please help :(

NitroX
02-06-2015, 02:29 PM
with a unlocked vbios. if you don't know how to flash you could brick your system or card. i've been doing it with the help of people who really know what they are doing. you probably don't have enough voltage or hitting TDP limit vbios has to be unlocked. pm me if you want to talk more.

Thank you for the info's but I will stick to what it can do at the moment :P. I can't play any game as it is right now and modding a Bios isn't quite my domain. It is good to know that it can be done but as Rogdood said even if the temps are holding up your card might still get damaged by the increased frequencies and electrical flux that it passes through the circuits. The fact that you increase the frequencies so much means that the electrons that pass through your card are much more unstable and they could break from their normal route and fry something over there. I'm not telling you not to do it but I'm telling you that there are more issues that could appear from OCing besides the temperatures. Also, keep in mind that the temperature that you measure with software comes from one single diode placed on the GPU Core. The GPU memory could go even hotter than the core when it is stressed. I know this from my older G75VW which showed temperatures for both VRam and Core.

ceaz
02-06-2015, 04:27 PM
umm..guys i know this is not related to the topic, i was wondering, i just got my g751jt laptop last month and i tried fire strike demo just to see how my graphic card score, my result was only 6630, is this normal? i have seen some goes up to 8k, and their core clock is higher than mine, which is btw mine is only at 924mhz, is this with the turbo boost i've been hearing about? i am not a techy savvy so please bare with me, and thank you in advance :)

BigDRim
02-06-2015, 04:36 PM
umm..guys i know this is not related to the topic, i was wondering, i just got my g751jt laptop last month and i tried fire strike demo just to see how my graphic card score, my result was only 6630, is this normal? i have seen some goes up to 8k, and their core clock is higher than mine, which is btw mine is only at 924mhz, is this with the turbo boost i've been hearing about? i am not a techy savvy so please bare with me, and thank you in advance :)

No arround 6700 at stock is ok.

d0r1n
02-06-2015, 04:40 PM
8k has the OC 30% 970m...the 980m has 8500-8600 stock and 9500 with OC +135 and +1000

ceaz
02-06-2015, 04:43 PM
No arround 6700 at stock is ok.

is there a problem with my gpu that it's not reaching at that score?

d0r1n
02-06-2015, 04:44 PM
u have 6630 and it's 6700....read before posting the same question

HulkSmash
02-06-2015, 07:52 PM
with a unlocked vbios..heres my score..46220

Thanks for the reply buddy! Awesome performance! And I apologize for the people who polluted my thread and have no idea of what they are talking about. Yes, a 980m overclocked will beat a 970m overclocked DUH.... That is not the point though, people don't get the fact though that overclocking a 1500 laptop will give you the performance of a stock laptop that costs 2000+. Sorry for the people lol...

I've been OC'ing for a while, so I know how to safely do it and all in regards to temps and artifacting and whatnot. I never flashed a vbios before though... I would like to try it though. Any tips or procedures you could help me with so I can safely do it?

Thanks in advance!

rogdood
02-07-2015, 07:02 PM
I know things can get a bit steamy, but when it comes to harassment, that's where we draw the line. If those PMs are indeed so, you should contact a moderator.

After all, it's each one's decision what they do with their laptop. However, bare in mind that Clevo's are considered superior, so setup-wise, you do have an advantage, so what works for you might not actually get even close for others.

kingkaann
02-07-2015, 09:15 PM
I know things can get a bit steamy, but when it comes to harassment, that's where we draw the line. If those PMs are indeed so, you should contact a moderator.

After all, it's each one's decision what they do with their laptop. However, bare in mind that Clevo's are considered superior, so setup-wise, you do have an advantage, so what works for you might not actually get even close for others.


I will definitely let the mods know of his disgusting pm's mate. forums need good attitude of people with good knowledge so we can all learn from each other. we are all still learning everyone knows something different from us that we might need. everyone has different ideas different opinions and that's what make forums great. not cursing and insulting like some trolls. so i totally agree with you. so far i've helped 2 people with their g751Jt and they both beat my graphics score with their 970m's one of them got stable 1474 core clock almost getting 14k score in 3dmark11 one of them is stable at 1450 core while i can only get 1400 core. just liek you said everyone's card performance is different and i can only show them how to overclock right and see what their system offer. that's all

Wishmaker77
02-08-2015, 12:25 PM
Maybe is some off topic but i buy my my asus from signature , in my cpountry i pay for new from shop less then 1500 euro :P

Praz
02-09-2015, 12:17 AM
Hello

I'm not sure what is going on here. If the people posting in this thread continue down this path with these type of posts in this or any other thread I will remove posting privileges for all involved until I get time to sort this out. And I'm quite busy so that may take awhile.

_
02-09-2015, 02:17 AM
Forward me those PMs.

If you find an offensive post please just report it in future, don't carry on like this. Thanks.

cLLii
02-09-2015, 09:56 AM
how to overclock my 970m? thanks..

AliSrc
05-27-2015, 12:11 PM
Can anyone of you tell us who have an "GTX 970M" witch settings is the best in "Asus GPU Tweak"?

I wanne overclock it but dont want to harm my system?

Best Regards

harrypott3r
06-02-2015, 11:08 PM
Hello. I managed myself to overclock the GTX 970M a little bit with a modded vbios by following: GPU core 1325 Mhz, Memory clock 5800 Mhz, Voltage 1100. Running 3DMARK Fire Strike I achieved 8020-8050 points from 6500-6600. In the games I tested: Far Cry3, Crysis 3 I've seen an improvement of 20-25%. After 1h of Unigine Valley and several Fire Strike runs and one hour of Crysis 3 I've got temperatures following: GPU maximum of 81 degrees C and CPU 78-80 degrees C. I guess they are pretty good temperatures for this overclock. No stuttering and no artifacts!

Edweird
06-03-2015, 07:09 AM
That's very impressive but probably doesn't help AliSrc at all since he's obviously not had to deal with things that deep. Besides, modifying the vBIOS breaks your warranty. On that topic though, you shouldn't see artifacting until you go over 6GHz.

Ali, if you can actually manage to get GPU Tweak to not crash every time you change a setting, just bump the core clock up as high up it will go (+135MHz) and add to memory clock in small increments of 50-100 until you srart seeing weird artifacts on your screen or start to get crashes. There's nothing you can really do to harm your system unless you touch vBIOS or GPU voltages but I don't think GPU Tweak gets access to that on the 970/980M anyways (with the default vBIOS).

My actual reccomendation is to get MSI Afterburner, it works the exact same way - but doesn't crash. It also gives you in-game information about the state of your PC so you can keep an eye on temps.

Good luck!

harrypott3r
06-03-2015, 03:57 PM
But if I need to send it back to warranty I can reflash it with original vbios that I saved it and after they will be able to see that I used Vbios? Considering the fact that I send them the product with stock vbios?

Edweird
06-03-2015, 04:05 PM
If something goes wrong with the vBIOS, you won't be able to flash it at all cause your laptop wouldn't be able to display an image.
If it otherwise works but you have to send it based on warranty claims, you can revert to the stock vBIOS and there should be no information about the change. Going back to an older version of the motherboard BIOS is not allowed, either but it doesn't seem to stop ASUS servicing the laptop anyway, so... you can do it at your own risk.

harrypott3r
06-03-2015, 04:56 PM
It is same version of the vbios. It is just unlocked for the voltage

viocristi
02-22-2016, 12:37 PM
Hello. I managed myself to overclock the GTX 970M a little bit with a modded vbios by following: GPU core 1325 Mhz, Memory clock 5800 Mhz, Voltage 1100. Running 3DMARK Fire Strike I achieved 8020-8050 points from 6500-6600. In the games I tested: Far Cry3, Crysis 3 I've seen an improvement of 20-25%. After 1h of Unigine Valley and several Fire Strike runs and one hour of Crysis 3 I've got temperatures following: GPU maximum of 81 degrees C and CPU 78-80 degrees C. I guess they are pretty good temperatures for this overclock. No stuttering and no artifacts!

Nice results! I think I also won the 970m lottery.
I don't haven an Asus Rog laptop but a clevo p150em with i7 3610qm, 8 gb ram, 256 ssd +1tb hdd and upgraded my old ati 7970m to a gtx 970m.

I'm using afterburner and I set up +135 on core and +600 on Memory. Been using it for over 1 week for 5-6 h of gaming per day and there are no artifacts.I have a prema bios (so I could have had my card detected by the system) and this allows me to use the full fan speed if I want. In gta 5 i'm getting @60 degrees with ~70-75% utilisation (cpu botteneck, since gta is going hard on the CPU).

In witcher 3, I have most settings on high (except for the draw distance, again CPU) and with 95-99% utilisation FPS between 53-60 (mostly 58) and @68-74 degrees, at that point I just put the fans to the max and even with 99% utilisation I'm getting 65-66 degrees (tested for 3-4 hours of usage with no breaks).

I used +630/640 too on memory for short periods and didn't see any artifacts but I feared that it was a bit too high since most people stop at 450-500. I experienced artifacts @670-680. What do you guys think, did I hit the jackpot of the cards or this is normal?

ps: I'm not sure that my cooling system (using a cooling pad too, and repasted recently) is on par, better or weaker than your typical asus rog or not but those temps seem good to me considering the OC, right?