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Bodycount69
02-05-2015, 05:23 AM
Hi everyone I have a ASUS G20 with a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 Video Memory:2048 MBytes of GDDR5 SDRAM [Samsung]

So I'm looking to upgrade and seen this ASUS card :
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121912

Its small opens more room in case should run cooler and also should out preform the 770.

Also going to upgrade the ram 16 gigs is the max you can go so I'm going to put this into it:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211897&cm_re=ADATA_XPG_V1.0_16GB_%282_x_8GB%29_240-Pin_DDR3_SDRAM_DDR3_1600_%28PC3_12800%29_Desktop_M emory_Model_AX3U1600W8G9-DR-_-20-211-897-_-Product

doeboydk
02-05-2015, 10:58 AM
got a small request
when you do take it apart if you have the possibility to do a small video of the process involved ? been trying to find some dissasembly video's with no luck
thinking about upgrading the ram of the pc but as far i can tell from the pictures from the overhaul thread
the ram blocks are sitting under the heatpipe for the cpu fan do you have to detach these also ?

Bodycount69
02-05-2015, 12:02 PM
got a small request
when you do take it apart if you have the possibility to do a small video of the process involved ? been trying to find some dissasembly video's with no luck
thinking about upgrading the ram of the pc but as far i can tell from the pictures from the overhaul thread
the ram blocks are sitting under the heatpipe for the cpu fan do you have to detach these also ?

I have been looking for a video to with no luck I'm sorry to say I have no way of making a video or I would :(

Bodycount69
02-05-2015, 12:03 PM
Man 37 people viewed this and only one reply come on people ! sad very sad :(

icwhatudidthere
02-05-2015, 04:10 PM
I think a lot of people are shying away from upgrading once they realize what's involved. Asus scares people away with the warranty issue also.

As for the shorter 970 card, I'd be concerned that there may not be a bracket to secure it to. It may not be an issue since it sits vertically anyway but still something to think about. With that price, why not go for a full 980? The 9xx series should run cooler than the 7xx anyway.

GoHack
02-06-2015, 03:46 AM
Hi everyone I have a ASUS G20 with a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 Video Memory:2048 MBytes of GDDR5 SDRAM [Samsung]

Also going to upgrade the ram 16 gigs is the max you can go so I'm going to put this into it:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211897&cm_re=ADATA_XPG_V1.0_16GB_%282_x_8GB%29_240-Pin_DDR3_SDRAM_DDR3_1600_%28PC3_12800%29_Desktop_M emory_Model_AX3U1600W8G9-DR-_-20-211-897-_-Product



The memory that you show is for a desktop.

The G20 uses 2 x 204-Pin DDR3L SO-DIMM 1600 (PC3 12800) laptop memory, and need to be DDR3L low voltage, 1.35V.


If you look at these photos, you can see it.

http://rog.asus.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=43914&d=1417924705

http://www.profesionalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/asus-rog-g20-review-20.jpg

http://prohardver.hu/dl/cnt/2014-09/111961/pic/asus_rog_g20_inside2_s.jpg

https://i0.wp.com/pcdiy.asus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/G20-Heatsink-with-copplerplate-and-dual-copper-heatpipe.jpg

GoHack
02-06-2015, 03:53 AM
I think a lot of people are shying away from upgrading once they realize what's involved. Asus scares people away with the warranty issue also.

As for the shorter 970 card, I'd be concerned that there may not be a bracket to secure it to. It may not be an issue since it sits vertically anyway but still something to think about. With that price, why not go for a full 980? The 9xx series should run cooler than the 7xx anyway.



The Alienware X51 is just like this system. The same thing was said of it when it first came out, and since, has had it CPU, memory, video card, HD, and WiFi card upgraded, and an SSD added by many.

GoHack
02-06-2015, 04:08 AM
Hi everyone I have a ASUS G20 with a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 Video Memory:2048 MBytes of GDDR5 SDRAM [Samsung]

So I'm looking to upgrade and seen this ASUS card :
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121912

Its small opens more room in case should run cooler and also should out preform the 770.

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That looks like a nice video card, but if you look at these photos, there may be a problem holding the card in place, when it comes to that bracket on the end of the card in the photos. I don't know if there are any attachment holes for that bracket, for that shorter card.

https://rog.asus.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=43922&d=1417929515&thumb=1

https://rog.asus.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=43923&d=1417929561&thumb=1

If you look in this photo, the video card cooling fan has to be w/in the open slot area as shown in these photos below.

http://www.profesionalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/asus-rog-g20-review-16.jpg

http://www.3dnews.ru/assets/external/illustrations/2015/01/27/908670/sm.ASUS-ROG-G20_Inside-03.600.jpg

"Update: Looking at the photos above, there's no way to attach that bracket, due to that long slot for the cooling fan."

Fatboy9
02-09-2015, 09:27 PM
I tried a half size 960 card In mine it was too tall. Height of the card pushed up against the bottom of the case. If you upgrade your video card go with a reference model.

Bodycount69
02-09-2015, 10:06 PM
I'm stuck trying to get the video card out I found 3 screws but still didn't come out :(

GoHack
02-10-2015, 08:04 AM
I'm stuck trying to get the video card out I found 3 screws but still didn't come out :(

The issue may be w/the video card socket.

There's a little lock in clip on the video PCIE socket that has to be "CAREFULLY" pressed away from the video card, in order to unlock the card from the socket. When I say "CAREFULLY", if you push it away too far, it'll break off.

In this photo, there are two, which are light blue, on the left.

http://www.realtimesoft.com/multimon/guide/mobo_pcie.jpg

In this one, it is light green, on the left.

http://www.ni.com/cms/images/devzone/tut/kgqacvta3335427972332368687.jpg

I hope this helps.

Razer189
02-10-2015, 04:35 PM
Hi everyone I have a ASUS G20 with a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 Video Memory:2048 MBytes of GDDR5 SDRAM [Samsung]

So I'm looking to upgrade and seen this ASUS card :
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121912

Its small opens more room in case should run cooler and also should out preform the 770.

Also going to upgrade the ram 16 gigs is the max you can go so I'm going to put this into it:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211897&cm_re=ADATA_XPG_V1.0_16GB_%282_x_8GB%29_240-Pin_DDR3_SDRAM_DDR3_1600_%28PC3_12800%29_Desktop_M emory_Model_AX3U1600W8G9-DR-_-20-211-897-_-Product


I don't think that GPU would fit in the G20. it's to tall. I think, because i compaired the reference 770 to the ASUS mini 970 card and the hight is a bit taller then the reference 770.

montereywill
02-11-2015, 12:23 AM
Hi everyone.

I liked the size of the G20, so I picked on up from Fry's in San Jose, CA just so I could upgrade it and put in my living room. I can confirm the case while being a little tricky to get to certain screws/cables, but is none-the-less still managable to perform upgrades. Here is what I did and it works fine.

Step 1: Purchased Hardware;
GPU: EVGA EVGA GTX980 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NI5NCRW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1http://)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Performance 16GB DDR3L (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H33JU3K/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Optical: Panasonic UJ262 9.5mm SATA Super Slim 6X 3D Blu-ray (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HG77LSO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Boot Drive: Intel 730 SERIES 480 GB SSD (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-2-5-Inch-Internal-Solid-SSDSC2BP480G4R5/dp/B00IF4NGXQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1423612986&sr=1-1&keywords=intel+730+480gb)
Storage Drive: Samsung 850 (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E1T0B-AM/dp/B00OBRFFAS/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1423613038&sr=1-3&keywords=850+evo)

Step 4: Download latest nVidia drivers (or use driver cd), and uninstall nVidia drivers;
Step 3: Disassemble;
Step 4: Remove GPU Mounting bracket, DVD tray (one screw on motherboard only), and Remove bracket holding CPU Heatsink/Fans to fold out of way for memory access;
Step 5: Install Memory;
Step 6: Install New Boot SSD;
Step 7: Reboot to OS, and clone Factory Hybrid-SSD to new Boot SSD;
Step 8: Power off, remove Factory HSSD and Install new Boot SSD;
Step 9: Install 2nd SSD and Optical;
Step 10: Reattach (screw down) CPU Heatsink/Fan combo;
Step 11: Install new GPU to mounting bracket
Step 12: Connect Extra 6-Pin PCI-E power connector to motherboard;
Step 13: Re-Install GPU to chassis, and connect 2 6-Pin PCI-E power connectors to GPU;
Step 14: Plug monitor cable into new GPU, and boot up system, install drivers (verify gpu is recognized/working)
Step 15: If everything is working, finish reassembly of case!

Notes: I have not tested any GTX 970 cards, but I can tell you from experience a EVGA GTX 980 FTW will fit/install, but the fans will not work properly for which I am assuming is voltage reasons. The fans will try to spin up but cannot be commanded even through the eVGA Precision software, and will get hot under any load outside desktop environment. Once I installed a reference GTX 980 into the system everything work properly including the eVGA Precision software fan controls. My guess is that any card with dual 6-pin PCI-E power connectors should "probably" work, but if it is a 8-Pin + 6-Pin, then forget about it. Hope this helps everyone out.

P.S. Keep track of all those damn little screws when you disassemble the case! :p

Bodycount69
02-12-2015, 10:05 PM
Hi everyone.

I liked the size of the G20, so I picked on up from Fry's in San Jose, CA just so I could upgrade it and put in my living room. I can confirm the case while being a little tricky to get to certain screws/cables, but is none-the-less still managable to perform upgrades. Here is what I did and it works fine.

Step 1: Purchased Hardware;
GPU: EVGA EVGA GTX980 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NI5NCRW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1http://)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Performance 16GB DDR3L (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H33JU3K/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Optical: Panasonic UJ262 9.5mm SATA Super Slim 6X 3D Blu-ray (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HG77LSO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Boot Drive: Intel 730 SERIES 480 GB SSD (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-2-5-Inch-Internal-Solid-SSDSC2BP480G4R5/dp/B00IF4NGXQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1423612986&sr=1-1&keywords=intel+730+480gb)
Storage Drive: Samsung 850 (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E1T0B-AM/dp/B00OBRFFAS/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1423613038&sr=1-3&keywords=850+evo)

Step 4: Download latest nVidia drivers (or use driver cd), and uninstall nVidia drivers;
Step 3: Disassemble;
Step 4: Remove GPU Mounting bracket, DVD tray (one screw on motherboard only), and Remove bracket holding CPU Heatsink/Fans to fold out of way for memory access;
Step 5: Install Memory;
Step 6: Install New Boot SSD;
Step 7: Reboot to OS, and clone Factory Hybrid-SSD to new Boot SSD;
Step 8: Power off, remove Factory HSSD and Install new Boot SSD;
Step 9: Install 2nd SSD and Optical;
Step 10: Reattach (screw down) CPU Heatsink/Fan combo;
Step 11: Install new GPU to mounting bracket
Step 12: Connect Extra 6-Pin PCI-E power connector to motherboard;
Step 13: Re-Install GPU to chassis, and connect 2 6-Pin PCI-E power connectors to GPU;
Step 14: Plug monitor cable into new GPU, and boot up system, install drivers (verify gpu is recognized/working)
Step 15: If everything is working, finish reassembly of case!

Notes: I have not tested any GTX 970 cards, but I can tell you from experience a EVGA GTX 980 FTW will fit/install, but the fans will not work properly for which I am assuming is voltage reasons. The fans will try to spin up but cannot be commanded even through the eVGA Precision software, and will get hot under any load outside desktop environment. Once I installed a reference GTX 980 into the system everything work properly including the eVGA Precision software fan controls. My guess is that any card with dual 6-pin PCI-E power connectors should "probably" work, but if it is a 8-Pin + 6-Pin, then forget about it. Hope this helps everyone out.

P.S. Keep track of all those damn little screws when you disassemble the case! :p

Wish you would have made a video of this :(

Bodycount69
02-12-2015, 10:13 PM
Hi everyone.

I liked the size of the G20, so I picked on up from Fry's in San Jose, CA just so I could upgrade it and put in my living room. I can confirm the case while being a little tricky to get to certain screws/cables, but is none-the-less still managable to perform upgrades. Here is what I did and it works fine.

Step 1: Purchased Hardware;
GPU: EVGA EVGA GTX980 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NI5NCRW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1http://)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Performance 16GB DDR3L (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H33JU3K/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Optical: Panasonic UJ262 9.5mm SATA Super Slim 6X 3D Blu-ray (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HG77LSO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Boot Drive: Intel 730 SERIES 480 GB SSD (http://www.amazon.com/Intel-2-5-Inch-Internal-Solid-SSDSC2BP480G4R5/dp/B00IF4NGXQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1423612986&sr=1-1&keywords=intel+730+480gb)
Storage Drive: Samsung 850 (http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E1T0B-AM/dp/B00OBRFFAS/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1423613038&sr=1-3&keywords=850+evo)

Step 4: Download latest nVidia drivers (or use driver cd), and uninstall nVidia drivers;
Step 3: Disassemble;
Step 4: Remove GPU Mounting bracket, DVD tray (one screw on motherboard only), and Remove bracket holding CPU Heatsink/Fans to fold out of way for memory access;
Step 5: Install Memory;
Step 6: Install New Boot SSD;
Step 7: Reboot to OS, and clone Factory Hybrid-SSD to new Boot SSD;
Step 8: Power off, remove Factory HSSD and Install new Boot SSD;
Step 9: Install 2nd SSD and Optical;
Step 10: Reattach (screw down) CPU Heatsink/Fan combo;
Step 11: Install new GPU to mounting bracket
Step 12: Connect Extra 6-Pin PCI-E power connector to motherboard;
Step 13: Re-Install GPU to chassis, and connect 2 6-Pin PCI-E power connectors to GPU;
Step 14: Plug monitor cable into new GPU, and boot up system, install drivers (verify gpu is recognized/working)
Step 15: If everything is working, finish reassembly of case!

Notes: I have not tested any GTX 970 cards, but I can tell you from experience a EVGA GTX 980 FTW will fit/install, but the fans will not work properly for which I am assuming is voltage reasons. The fans will try to spin up but cannot be commanded even through the eVGA Precision software, and will get hot under any load outside desktop environment. Once I installed a reference GTX 980 into the system everything work properly including the eVGA Precision software fan controls. My guess is that any card with dual 6-pin PCI-E power connectors should "probably" work, but if it is a 8-Pin + 6-Pin, then forget about it. Hope this helps everyone out.

P.S. Keep track of all those damn little screws when you disassemble the case! :p

So you got both SSD drive in the case ? theres room for 2 ? and for your GPU you got the 980 in and working but the fan don't work ?

Monkiki
02-13-2015, 05:29 AM
I just put an EVGA reference design GTX 980 in mine tonight. I put the instructions here: https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?54457-ROG-G20-Overhaul&p=475944&viewfull=1#post475944

montereywill
02-13-2015, 04:43 PM
So you got both SSD drive in the case ? theres room for 2 ? and for your GPU you got the 980 in and working but the fan don't work ?

If you want two SSD's in your system you will have to remove the stock Hybrid-HDD that is installed beneath the Video Card. That's why I used the software (Acronis) included with the Intel 730 SSD to clone the oem drive to my new SSD. Once that is completed you can install the SSD in place of the oem HDD, and install the second SSD in the optical tray. There is a short SATA cable included with the case just for this installation. Once you have removed the Optical Tray (just one screw and it slides out) you can install the 2nd SSD, then slide it back in place.

As far as the GPU goes, I tested with the expanded memory, blu-ray drive, and dual SSD's, and I installed a eVGA GTX 980 FTW (had it for another build I was working on) and sure enough the system boots, all drivers install, and you can even run benchmarks on its. BUT, the fans would not spin. You could not even command them to operate through the software. One fan would not move at all, and the fan at nearest the power connectors was jerky like it wanted to spin up. As soon as I put the reference GTX 980 into the system the fan on that stock cooler operated perfectly, and was also controllable through the software. This is why I pointed out that I believe this is a limitation of the board and/or power brick for the GPU. A reference GTX 980 only has 2 6-Pin PCI-e power connectors, whereas the non-reference eVGA FTW GTX 980 had one 8-pin + one 6-pin PCI-e power connector. Pretty sure this is where the issues arise. Otherwise the card fits fine. What will not fit is a card like the Strix from ASUS, or possibly even the WIndforce from Gigabyte. Those two coolers are wider than the reference cooler, and anythin glonger than a reference 980 will not fit. There is hardly any space between the end of the GPU and the usb connectors mounted inside the front of the case. So as long as you stick with a reference design on the GTX 980 then you are good to go. Hope this clarifies any questions you had.

icwhatudidthere
02-13-2015, 05:07 PM
That's a full overhaul! Nice job. How did you remove the stock hard drive? Was it hard?

I haven't even opened mine yet but I'm planning on doing pretty much the same upgrades in 6 months or so. Thanks.

montereywill
02-17-2015, 12:29 AM
That's a full overhaul! Nice job. How did you remove the stock hard drive? Was it hard?

I haven't even opened mine yet but I'm planning on doing pretty much the same upgrades in 6 months or so. Thanks.

Once the Video Card is out of the way, the hard drive has a single screw on its mounting chassis [SATA connector side] and once you remove it you just gently slide the caddy to the rear and you lift it straight out of the case (cables disconnected of course). Glad I could help!

RedWolfTech
02-17-2015, 02:08 AM
Once the Video Card is out of the way, the hard drive has a single screw on its mounting chassis [SATA connector side] and once you remove it you just gently slide the caddy to the rear and you lift it straight out of the case (cables disconnected of course). Glad I could help!

Really? That sounds much easier than it looked - I'm gonna have to open mine back up and look at that again as I'd like to swap that hard drive.

Colin @ PCMarket.com.au
02-24-2015, 12:20 AM
We've published a write up with photos of upgrading the GPU in the g20 to a GTX980. We used a reference card.

http://www.pcmarket.com.au/blog/upgrading-gpu-asus-rog-g20aj-gaming-desktop-nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-video-card

Bodycount69
02-24-2015, 03:28 AM
We've published a write up with photos of upgrading the GPU in the g20 to a GTX980. We used a reference card.

http://www.pcmarket.com.au/blog/upgrading-gpu-asus-rog-g20aj-gaming-desktop-nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-video-card

Sweet thank you so much :)

vaspbc
03-05-2015, 02:34 AM
I am at the stage where I need to remove my stock hard-drive. I removed a tiny screw and tried to push mounting chassis out but it appears to be stuck. I tried everything to jar it but it wouldn't move. I see that you said that the screw you removed was towards the sata connector side. The one I removed is towards the front of the system just below dvd drive and behind the usb3.0 card on the front of the case. If you could shed some light as to what I am doing wrong I would greatly appreciate it.

RamyK66
04-04-2015, 12:20 AM
I have a dumb question. What do you guys mean when you say reference card? Is that an actual different card or a tweak or something. I'm not as knowledgeable as I thought I was, apparently. I'm really hoping to upgrade to the GTX 980 but want to make sure I get the right one.

Monkiki
04-04-2015, 12:40 AM
A reference card is just an OEM style card. They typically all look the same regardless of manufacturer so an nVidia and EVGA reference card will look the same. When searching for a 980, just make sure it looks like this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-970-maxwell,3941-3.html

RamyK66
04-04-2015, 12:52 AM
Cool thanks and this one will fit in my G20 right?

Monkiki
04-04-2015, 01:18 AM
Yep. As long as it is a reference design it'll fit, no problem.

RamyK66
04-04-2015, 03:25 AM
Do you know by any chance if a titan black or titan Z would work on the G20? as far as power consumption, space and any other compatibilities?

Monkiki
04-04-2015, 03:37 AM
I haven't looked into their detailed specs but as long as the dimensions are the same or less than the 980 it will fit. The 980 is a really snug fit. As far as power consumption, the GPU power supply is rated up to 230W. If a Titan can fit within those then it should work.

Bodycount69
04-15-2015, 09:04 PM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133563&_ga=1.11049524.1431727736.1424797764

My 980 fit fine works great:)