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naumaanjaved
03-21-2015, 08:40 PM
Hey there guys, I am a novice here and in gaming notebooks as well, never used one before, but I want to buy one.

I d been looking at this asus rog g751jy-dh71 model from about the last 2 months on the web store in our region. Somehow whenever I come online, I get hooked to just stalking it even when I don't have it at the moment, my budget is not yet ready as I don't have enough money at the moment, however I am trying my best to get it together in the next year.

So a week earlier, after obsessing on it for about 1 and almost a half month, i thought to look for its negatives, and a large number of people have reported it to have some very bad problems in sound for example, changing boot device and crash, pixel stuck on display. After looking at all this, I am a bit confused because in all of that G751jy is a beast in itself.

After that, I started comparing it with the older 880m gpu models, and they had very much less problems as considered to this. I can manage to get one of those, but then I ll be stuck in selling it out as I will not be able to enjoy the new generation games.

I do believe, each and every product is first introduced and enhanced in its upgraded models, so I d really like to go for the next upgraded model of g751jy, that is something more stable and yet same as this powerful, will there be in the fifth generation processor line? .. If so, is there any cycle of improvement to the new rigs, how much time does it take asus to upgrade their model? Any time period so that I stop obsessing myself over something which is out of reach for me at the moment?

I don't want any earlier machine advises. Thanks

hmscott
03-21-2015, 09:51 PM
naumaanjaved, since it is going to be a long time before you purchase a new laptop, you should continuing reading the user forums of MSI, Alienware, Dell, HP, and you will realize all the laptop makes/models have problems, in about the same percentage and degree.

All computers, from every manufacturer, can ship with problems that need fixing - by a software driver upgrade, by a cosmetic repair, by a replacement of a failed component.

Even after testing the components, and testing the completed laptop, somethings slip by or fail during shipment, or fail during the first few weeks of power on use.

Asus is good about fixing these problems, but most people never need to send their laptop in for repair, or return it at purchase for another unit. In the user forums we see a large percentage of failures because that is what user forums are for, a place for people with problems to come for solutions.

I have purchased many Asus laptops over the years, 3 of the G750's, and all but 1 had no problems at all. The one with a problem was a G2S with a graphics card that got flaky after a few months of use - and Asus replaced it and that laptop is still running great.

The G750's also had a bad audio driver problem near release, the Realtek driver that shipped with the laptop was ok, but one of the next Realtek upgrades broke the sound such that even installing the original shipping driver failed to work - the bad driver left files behind that needed to be tracked down and deleted manually - it took 6+ months for Realtek to ship a driver that cleaned up that mess and worked correctly.

So the G751's sound problem discovery to a fix was actually shorter in duration - fixed after about 4 months, but started from the shipping driver. Use driver version v6.0.1.7432 or . 7443

Realtek Audio problems happen to other manufacturers too.

There is a good reason to wait to purchase a new laptop model for a few months after release. Wait for any problems to be discovered - it took about a month for the first complaints about the audio to get posted - and then wait for any outstanding problems to get fixed before purchase, that is if the problems bother you.

Some regions don't get a lot of any particular Asus model, so there is a danger in waiting - you might not be able to find one if you wait.

For me, I usually alternate between buying at release, and buying after the bugs have been found and fixed.

The 980m GPU is the first real performance upgrade since the 780m, so it might be a couple of releases before something significantly faster than the 980m is released.

Asus usually announces new models in April, and releases in June. But this year I haven't heard of anything new - the G751 was released late last year - that is likely it for a while for the 17" category.

But, since you can't do this for a few months, check back when you are ready to purchase :)

NitroX
03-22-2015, 06:49 AM
Well, Hmscott pretty much summed them up.
What can I say more is not to be worried about the problems because many of them have solutions. Even if you get a faulty model or DOA (dead on arrival) unit, you can always ask for a refund or an exchange. In the end it depends on your luck. I, for example, have had 2 G751JY models. The first one I have returned for a minor bleeding and a ripped coating on the Enter button. Many people wouldn't even have bothered with these problems but I'm more of a perfectionist. And the 2nd model that I've received is almost perfect: no bleeding at all, keyboard is fine now, no touchpad problems, no black screens etc.

As for the waiting part, I would say that the next generation of ASUS RoG will come after the big releases of this year like: Window 10, Broadwell CPU's, DirectX 12. At the moment, the current G751 series aren't even working at their full capacity as NVidia hasn't implemented the newest technologies for Maxwell architecture and Microsoft didn't release DirectX 12. These being said, I think that a new series will be released in the last quarter of the year (possibly October/November).

To be honest, I did buy the G751JY after a long analysis of the market and how it may evolve in the next 2-3 years. My conclusion was that the G751JY will remain top-notch until the next GPU architecture (Pascal) will come up. I saw what happened to Kepler, and they just bumped the frequencies of the chips in order to get more power from them. I do believe that the same thing will happen to Maxwell, therefore we won't see very big differences until they come up with Pascal.

This is just my personal opinion and I don't have any real facts to rely on, so take it as it is :P.