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mickey3
06-16-2015, 10:16 AM
Dear all

I bought a G551JW about two weeks ago. At room temperature the laptop stays at 41 degree celsius. As a gaming notebook, I use Furmark to stress test the GPU.

To my surprise the GPU (GTX960M) start throttling at 74 degree celsius - which is meh for a gaming notebook. It is too low for thermal throttle in my opinion. I use the latest Nvidia driver (350.12) and also tried the Asus VGA driver. Both result in thermal throttle at 74 degree.

Is it normal for G551JW guys?

UPDATE 1: It seems that a new beta bios from Asus can fix the thermal throttling policy (i.e., higher temperature before throttling begins). It can be found in this post (https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?64295-G551JW-GPU-throttle-at-74-degree-celsius&p=521251&viewfull=1#post521251).

WARNING: As this is a beta bios, it may not work for you. From several attempts in this topic, I conclude that this bios is reasonably safe. The temperature ceiling is raised to 82c. Big thanks to TayTayTheKiller and other members! However, use this bios at your own risks.

Link to beta bios: CLICK HERE (https://www.mediafire.com/?i97q6r9gcrvlrmn)

UPDATE 2: Asus has updated the bios on their support page. If you use Windows 8.1 then the link is HERE (http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=G551JW&p=3&s=714). The temperature ceiling for this bios is 78c. As the bios revision 204 is official, it is safer than the above beta bios.

OCFreak
06-16-2015, 06:47 PM
Probably won't help you, but GPU throttle temp in 551JM with GTX860M is set to 83C in bios. During gaming it rarely hits 83C, so this is not a problem. With furmark it hits 83C easily and throttles of course.

MafJose
06-17-2015, 12:31 AM
Rarely hits 83C? What kind of games you play, farmville? Put on GTA 5 and you´ll see how fast it reaches 85C....

This tight-packed 15,6 inch laptops, specially those 1 fan ones like G551, cant just handle the heat with demanding games and throttling is normal. G751 is way more efficient.

Piro
06-17-2015, 06:30 AM
Today I replace thermal paste to Coollaboratory Ultra, with stress tests in my G551JW.
I will start separate thread for that. I have modded vbios and my settings for GTX960M (same as GTX860M) are 1400Mhz (GPU) and 1500Mhz (memory). Energy limit is off.
BTW throttling stays at 74C as as I have learnt there is no idea at the moment how to switch it off.

Mickey3 - what is your FurMark result at 1080p? And 3DMark results (Fire Strike)?
And what clocks' settings do you use?

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?65642-Replacing-thermal-compound-in-G551JW

Funkave
06-18-2015, 07:53 AM
I have just registered to the forum to complain about the same thing. I read about this issue before, however it didn't show up until the last week, when the room temperature reached about 30 C.

If it the previous version with 860m starts throttling at 83C, I cannot see any reason for having 74C in the bios. I am not a tech guy nor a programmer, so I am kind of helpless and I have to rely on the community here. It seems to me that we really need a new bios.

Why ASUS would decide to decrease the performance of the latest version of G551 (with 960m), when it is overpriced compared to the old one with same, underclocked chip (860m) ?

Piro
06-18-2015, 12:06 PM
I have solved that by replacing thermal paste (thermal compound) to liquid metal. I have modded bios but still with 74C throttling, but it is not so painful now (my G960M is now about 25% faster than before, reaching almost 2800 at Furmark 1080p and over 4700 at 3DMark at GPU=1400MHz, MEM=1500MHz)

Funkave
06-18-2015, 01:09 PM
I have found the following post, it seems ASUS sent a beta BIOS to a certain user, on June 1st, raising the temperature threshold to 82C.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-inspector-prioritize-temperature-keeps-resetting.776328/page-5

I hope they will release it soon.

Piro
06-18-2015, 04:27 PM
I hope they will release it soon.

Hope is the mother of fools. Polish proverb.
I see 2 solutions: (1) to find, where preset of max temp is set in vbios. (2) easier - set clocks for throttled modes to similar, but slightly lower than a GPU regular clock speed.

mickey3
06-19-2015, 11:19 AM
Hope is the mother of fools. Polish proverb.
I see 2 solutions: (1) to find, where preset of max temp is set in vbios. (2) easier - set clocks for throttled modes to similar, but slightly lower than a GPU regular clock speed.

I do not dare to mess around with vbios :D Anyway the 74 C ceiling for GTX960m is ridiculously low as in a gaming laptop. Maybe I will try to contact Asus support or in worst case scenario return the product.

Piro
06-19-2015, 01:00 PM
My opinion is same. 85C will be enough for me. Especially problematic is that CPU has throttle at 95C. I wonder if CPU does heat GPU as they share same fan and copper heat bone.

MafJose
06-19-2015, 01:38 PM
I wonder if CPU does heat GPU as they share same fan and copper heat bone.

It does, when I disabled the Turbo clock my overall temps went down by 10-15 degrees, including GPU.

Funkave
06-19-2015, 01:50 PM
You mean reducing CPU usage in power settings, and by what amount?

OCFreak
06-19-2015, 03:34 PM
If you set CPU to 99% it will basically disable turbo boost. making CPU run at 2.6GHz only, this will help in many games is GPU throttles, since GPU is more important than CPU for midrange laptops.

X-Dream
06-21-2015, 12:16 AM
I'm owner of one GL551 as well. I bought it yesterday and I already came across the problem ...

I've got the same problems spoken here. Play GTA V is completely impossible in this PC . Due this throttling of 960m in less than 5 min I have the GPU to run about 400Mhz which is intolerable.

To solve the problem while the asus makes available a bios update my solution went to undervolting the GPU and change the maximum CPU performance to 99 % in the windows.

So I can play with the graphics card with always clocks above 1000Mhz + which is not what we want but it is better than the previous 400Mhz . It is a large increase in performance, 20-25fps to 45-50 with the same options.

Piro
06-21-2015, 08:28 AM
Simple solution that helps: use cooling pad for your G551, prefer these with 70 CFM air flow or more (Cooler Master X series?).
But this is not enough.
As the air intake vents in G551 are small, just unscrew and open cover that gives access to memory & hdd.
Put your asus on pad then - you will see really high improvement of temperatures and thus - FPS in any game (tested on The WItcher 3)

MafJose
06-21-2015, 09:26 AM
I tried cooling pad also - turned out to be rather pointless, no effect. Its the inner temperatures what matter, cooling pad cant reach there in any way, it just blows air to the plastic case basically.
Listen, this one-fan-cooled laptop is just not what its advertised for - its just a powerful multimedia device, not a full - on gaming PC for long gaming marathons.
I had gtx860m and actually it ran the GTA 5 pretty well, just gradually performance dropped from 50-60fps to 30-45 fps and started to stutter. But hearing from other users I think 960m is even worse, seems like they made it even more temperature-sensitive than 860m was.

Piro
06-21-2015, 11:52 AM
@MafJose - basically U R right, but after I removed mem/hdd cover even using Glacier 200 Cooling Pad (<30 CFM) temperatures drop, especially while long tests/gaming.
For instance I improved my 3DMark Fire Strike from 4716 to 4799 (almost 4800). With cover closed, or opened but no pad running - I have still around 4710-4720. With both (pad running, cover opened) never worse than 4780.

In Witcher 3 I have about +2 FPS at average with this (but I play with constant 30 FPS so I decided to use my additional computing power for maxing all graphics settings except Hair Works (still have it off, not enough computation power of GPU).
So this works for me.

MafJose
06-21-2015, 12:24 PM
Yes, maybe that way it could provide some cooling, it also slightly depends on the design of the cooler.
I also tried to just lift it higher so it could get easier access to air, did not help either.
In conclusion it has to be done right internally by manufacturer, G751 has it right but its alot bulkier due to that.

Piro
06-21-2015, 01:14 PM
Yep, the only solution for 15 inch design or smaller is to provide external thermal port. I demanded this years ago - simple copper bone ending that goes via one vent slot (left or right) with about 0,5 cm2 copper surface and simple screw mount. I did one self made for me in other laptop (much smaller Asus UX21), so I can have external cooler, sucking heat from copper bone inside. This works like hell and is simple in design. Of course you need external cooler but it can be any size and sink all heat.
I plan to do a test version of such heat port so I will publish photos and results. But surely there will be no throttling at all because GPU could not reach 74C. No way.

kinglionaire
06-21-2015, 03:55 PM
I plan to buy asus g551jw but this issues make me very confuse and from what i read the asus g551jm also have a heat issues problem bcoz single fan uses in this two models

So which one better if had to choose between asus g551jm with gtx860 4gb ddr or g551jw with gtx969 4gb ddr??

Any other model recommend( max 15.6 inches for portability)

Thanks for the advises

Piro
06-21-2015, 05:35 PM
G551 thermal design is not so bad, all in all.
If you go for G551jm you will get GTX860M with 4Gb DDR5 and GTX860M is same as GTX960M. Just same chip, Maxwell 1-st gen.
Difference is in thermal limit - 93C or so for 860 and 74 for 960. Thus - 860M can deliver speed of about 5000 3DMarks in Fire Strike, and 960 - now 4800 is a really fast.
Buy a notebook with GTX860M.

kinglionaire
06-22-2015, 07:02 AM
G551 thermal design is not so bad, all in all.
If you go for G551jm you will get GTX860M with 4Gb DDR5 and GTX860M is same as GTX960M. Just same chip, Maxwell 1-st gen.
Difference is in thermal limit - 93C or so for 860 and 74 for 960. Thus - 860M can deliver speed of about 5000 3DMarks in Fire Strike, and 960 - now 4800 is a really fast.
Buy a notebook with GTX860M.

Thanks for the reply

Im very upset hear this case from asus rog but for my budget i think this is the best option compare with lenovo y50 msi ge60 or acer v nitro black edition...

Kryst
06-23-2015, 05:07 PM
Will asus release something to make it better? or it can't be fixed this way

mickey3
06-24-2015, 10:35 AM
We can hope for a new Bios (or vbios, I am not so sure) update. There are some reports that ASUS did give a beta Bios to one of the G551JW's owners after he had contacted Asus support.

Meanwhile I visit Asus support page all days. They will have to do this soon because this topic shows up on Google for G551JW query. Potential customers will definitely be aware of this issue, thus creates a bigger problem for Asus.

radosm
06-24-2015, 12:18 PM
I got my G551JW about a month ago and i've also noticed this problem. So far I couldn't find a proper fix, the only thing that does help is setting the fan speed to 100 % whilst playing games. It still thermal throttles but far less frequently. In order to do that you need to download Notebook fan control and set your config to Asus Zenbook UX31A.
I've sent ASUS a complaint with a link to this thread and hopefully they will figure out a way to fix this issue.
Will keep you guys up to date if they reply.

mickey3
06-24-2015, 12:30 PM
I got my G551JW about a month ago and i've also noticed this problem. So far I couldn't find a proper fix, the only thing that does help is setting the fan speed to 100 % whilst playing games. It still thermal throttles but far less frequently. In order to do that you need to download Notebook fan control and set your config to Asus Zenbook UX31A.
I've sent ASUS a complaint with a link to this thread and hopefully they will figure out a way to fix this issue.
Will keep you guys up to date if they reply.

Really appreciate your efforts! I am looking forward to seeing some answers from Asus.

radosm
06-25-2015, 04:50 PM
Asus replied to my complaint.
Here is my complaint : "The G551JW has a GTX 960m. Once the GTX 960m reaches 74 degrees celsius it
starts to thermal throttle. This is a problem seeing as most modern games make the
graphics card reach that temperature even on medium or low setting. I noticed this
problem when I played GTA V ,The Witcher 3 : Wild hunt , and Battlefield 4 in some
cases (When I increase the graphics and there are a lot of explosions etc... .I'm not
the only one having this issue , I've checked the forums and found this :
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?64295-G551JW-GPU-throttle-at-74-
degree-celsius

Is there going to be any BIOS update that will allow the GPU to run hotter by just a bit
so that it potentially does not thermal throttle or am I basically stuck having to deal
with this issue ?"

And their reply : "Dear customer

Thank you for contacting ASUS technical support!

No, in current state it's impossible to pass by thermall throttling at that level. The only way is to provide a better cooling for your device (e.g. cooling pads).
You can also wait for bios update regarding thermal policy, but we have no date given, when it'll be updated.


Best Regards,

Paweł Rogowski
Technical Support Engineer "

Funkave
06-25-2015, 05:03 PM
Unfortunately I got similar answers from two customer services reps from different countries.

radosm
06-25-2015, 05:19 PM
Well, if they don't fix it I'm screwed. I can't return the laptop and all modern games will thermal throttle.

Piro
06-26-2015, 01:06 PM
But GTX 860M is the same to GTX960M and has no such throttle at 74C and reaches higher temps and... it's ok, because it's named GTX 860M. :)

Asus Logic - new definition of logic.

Ttm1st
07-01-2015, 08:07 AM
Thanx guys for the tips . Ill try making the cpu work at 99% as mentioned and today ill get a colling pad .. hope this works.
Do you guys think asus is truly working on a bios update ?

Piro
07-01-2015, 09:30 AM
Im not sure if Asus works on a bios update.
But I work on the bios update for sure.

MafJose
07-01-2015, 10:36 AM
I wonder if its only Asus that has this wierdly low throttle point with the gtx960m card or same thing happens to other manufacturers? Lenovo, MSI, etc. Anyone has experience with them?

Piro
07-01-2015, 10:03 PM
Hard to say. Seems that cooling is better in Lenovo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7ViT3bdIZc

OCFreak
07-02-2015, 04:11 PM
I wonder if its only Asus that has this wierdly low throttle point with the gtx960m card or same thing happens to other manufacturers? Lenovo, MSI, etc. Anyone has experience with them?

I have an acer aspire nitro as well with GTX960M. Under stresstest (CPU + GPU) there is no throttle and max GPU temp reached is 75C. MAX CPU temp reached is 93C in case anyone wants to know that as well. Hard to say what the GPU throttle limit is since it only reached 75C.

Piro
07-03-2015, 10:57 AM
OCFreak - please re-test with cooling exhaust blocked so you can see if it is throttling. If nothing happens till 85C, just enable air to flow.

But it seems that only we, owners of ASUS notebooks are so "lucky". Clevo throttles at 90C with GTX960M:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-w230sd-high-gpu-temp-gtx-960m.775674/

I wish I had 90C throttling :(

ASUS, pleaaaase!

OCFreak
07-03-2015, 03:32 PM
OCFreak - please re-test with cooling exhaust blocked so you can see if it is throttling. If nothing happens till 85C, just enable air to flow.

But it seems that only we, owners of ASUS notebooks are so "lucky". Clevo throttles at 90C with GTX960M:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-w230sd-high-gpu-temp-gtx-960m.775674/

I wish I had 90C throttling :(

ASUS, pleaaaase!

the GTX960M in acer aspire nitro started throttling @ 88C.

Arcus
07-03-2015, 07:40 PM
Hi guys sorry for stupid question but did somebody resolved this problem with trrolting at 74c because i cant find any answers for this question and did somebody know about new beta drivers for this notebook that gives 82c max temperature for gpu ? becouse i cnt find them anywhere and i whant to play new game without fps drops (((

PsychicCity
07-04-2015, 03:07 AM
Can anyone kindly notify this thread in case ASUS releases that bios fix for the temperature lock. This thing has been bugging me for quite a while because my friend and I has a 960m graphics card and he can run GTAV in 30-60fps while i run it on 15-30... its so annoying

TayTayTheKiller
07-04-2015, 06:42 AM
Hello I have had the same issue with this laptop, I have been talking to ASUS support they sent be a beta bios G551JWF1.T06 but it doesn't work. winflash or ezflash doesn't flash it. Winflash moans its a bad file and ezflash doesn't even see it. The build date is 05/28/2015 and is 8mb instead of 6mb like the one on the support page. I'm just waiting for a 3rd reply from ASUS after I explained ezflash doesn't even see the file.
Pic of winflash erroring out after clicking update.
http://puu.sh/iMIXk/22ea0f364b.jpg

PsychicCity
07-04-2015, 09:02 AM
Hello I have had the same issue with this laptop, I have been talking to ASUS support they sent be a beta bios G551JWF1.T06 but it doesn't work. winflash or ezflash doesn't flash it. Winflash moans its a bad file and ezflash doesn't even see it. The build date is 05/28/2015 and is 8mb instead of 6mb like the one on the support page. I'm just waiting for a 3rd reply from ASUS after I explained ezflash doesn't even see the file.
Pic of winflash erroring out after clicking update.
http://puu.sh/iMIXk/22ea0f364b.jpg

wow, its good that they have beta fix for this, means they work on it. hopefully they can release a proper fix. this is really disappointing seeing a 960m perform like crud.

please do update if the file works, would like to see results

Xumarice
07-05-2015, 07:12 AM
I was having this problem a month ago, seems now it's being noticed. Solved my problem by returning the laptop and finally moved to another brand. Then about 4 days later they emailed me the beta BIOS, which was of no use to me since the laptop was gone. Now checking my email again and thats the same beta BIOS (G551JWF1.T06) they emailed me a month ago on June 1. Happy with my new Sager laptop.

TayTayTheKiller
07-05-2015, 07:31 AM
I was having this problem a month ago, seems now it's being noticed. Solved my problem by returning the laptop and finally moved to another brand. Then about 4 days later they emailed me the beta BIOS, which was of no use to me since the laptop was gone. Now checking my email again and thats the same beta BIOS (G551JWF1.T06) they emailed me a month ago on June 1. Happy with my new Sager laptop.

Do you still have a copy of it? Are you willing to upload it as the one I got sent doesn't even work and would be interesting if your one did.

Xumarice
07-05-2015, 07:44 AM
Do you still have a copy of it? Are you willing to upload it as the one I got sent doesn't even work and would be interesting if your one did.

Trying to download it from my email. Is it okay to post a .zip file here?

TayTayTheKiller
07-05-2015, 07:46 AM
Trying to download it from my email. Is it okay to post a .zip file here?
Not sure may have to upload it to dropbox or zippyshare.com or something.

Xumarice
07-05-2015, 07:54 AM
Here you go. Mine came as a 4mb file.

https://www.mediafire.com/?bl3frbpg452p6rs

TayTayTheKiller
07-05-2015, 07:59 AM
Here you go. Mine came as a 4mb file.

https://www.mediafire.com/?bl3frbpg452p6rs

Thanks for the help chap but It seems to be identical to mine and doesn't flash lol. Maybe someone else will have better luck with it here or maybe it's a total duff on ASUS's part lol.

Xumarice
07-05-2015, 08:14 AM
A month passed and problem still not fixed, seems ASUS isn't taking this seriously. Sorry the BIOS didn't work.

PsychicCity
07-05-2015, 08:23 AM
wow, ASUS should really put out a proper fix..

TayTayTheKiller
07-05-2015, 09:41 AM
wow, ASUS should really put out a proper fix..
Yep it really dose suck, I just hope later this week it will get resolved soon.

PsychicCity
07-05-2015, 10:56 AM
Yep it really dose suck, I just hope later this week it will get resolved soon.
yeah, we people who bought this laptop hoping for a kickass 960m was quite disappointing. really expecting gta ran well like it should

TayTayTheKiller
07-05-2015, 11:03 AM
yeah, we people who bought this laptop hoping for a kickass 960m was quite disappointing. really expecting gta ran well like it should

Yeah it's the first ASUS product I have truly been disappointed with. I used to be a proper ASUS fanboy when it came to pc parts, tablets cheap laptops etc.

This is my first gaming laptop and thought it would be amazing considering is its ROG branded, I'm sooooo disappointed right now.

PsychicCity
07-05-2015, 12:05 PM
we need to keep this thread alive, incase ASUS releases full BIOS fix for this. they done effed up

OCFreak
07-05-2015, 01:32 PM
Asus N551JW has update to bios 204 already. Description is "update nv vbios".

N551JW and G551JW is the same laptop except color, and that N551 comes with external subwoofer.

Pretty sure that means 204 for G551JW is soon to be released.

TayTayTheKiller
07-05-2015, 01:45 PM
Asus N551JW has update to bios 204 already. Description is "update nv vbios".

N551JW and G551JW is the same laptop except color, and that N551 comes with external subwoofer.

Pretty sure that means 204 for G551JW is soon to be released.

Lets hope so.

PsychicCity
07-05-2015, 02:21 PM
Asus N551JW has update to bios 204 already. Description is "update nv vbios".

N551JW and G551JW is the same laptop except color, and that N551 comes with external subwoofer.

Pretty sure that means 204 for G551JW is soon to be released.
wow, that sound good. must be near real soon

OCFreak
07-05-2015, 02:55 PM
After reading notebookcheck review of N551JW it seems the bios has CPU throttle limit set to 85-86C as highest CPU temp observed is 86C. This do give slight CPU throttling during everyday use, under stresstest it will throttle down to around base clock (2,5-2,7GHz). Nothing alarming, but I'd prefer having no CPU throttle limit in bios.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-N551JW-GTX-960M-Notebook-Review.145820.0.html

TayTayTheKiller
07-05-2015, 03:35 PM
After reading notebookcheck review of N551JW it seems the bios has CPU throttle limit set to 85-86C as highest CPU temp observed is 86C. This do give slight CPU throttling during everyday use, under stresstest it will throttle down to around base clock (2,5-2,7GHz). Nothing alarming, but I'd prefer having no CPU throttle limit in bios.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-N551JW-GTX-960M-Notebook-Review.145820.0.html

Yeah I think the huge fail in this design is the fact they went with silence over performance, the cooling just doesn't seem adequate for the hardware.
As someone mentioned limiting the cpu power to 99% in windows power options dose indeed improve the temperatures of the 960m and keep the base clock higher so I'm guessing they are sharing the same heatpipes? If so this is such a terrible design for high performance components. I hope a bios update will help but to be honest I don't have much hope any more thinking about it.

OCFreak
07-05-2015, 04:03 PM
The 551 series actually has good cooling compared to the competition (Lenovo Y50, MSI GE/GS series, Acer nitro and so on), and would have no problems running both CPU and GPU at full speed within the limits set by the component manufacturers (intel and nvidia), and the design is well thought out - giving low to moderate surface temperatures - even with high component temperatures.

I'm willing to bet that if CPU ran at 95C and GPU @ 90C the surface temps would still only be moderate (40-45C), while for competition such temps would give scorching surface temps of 50-70C (Celsius).

It is just stupid by asus to put temp limits in the bios.

PsychicCity
07-06-2015, 04:23 AM
all i could do now is wait till someone updates of the bios fix coming out :(((((

Piro
07-06-2015, 06:19 AM
@OCFreak - with 86C throttling I bet I never have any throttling during even hardest jobs.
After changing thermal compound I see that temp of GPU looks to stabilize at estimated 82-84C

TayTayTheKiller
07-06-2015, 06:51 AM
Good news ASUS support sent me a working bios
http://puu.sh/iONlz/042d3e2dfd.png

As you can see it flashed. I managed to get to 75c when gaming and no gpu throttling happened.
http://puu.sh/iONdZ/9c96f39145.png

I will post it here for you all....

BUT I TAKE 0 RESPONSIBILITY IF FLASHING IT GOES WRONG FOR YOU.

http://puu.sh/iOOeC/14eacce177.jpg

REMOVED

Managed to get to 83c it GTA V It starts to drop the GPU clocks to 1176.2mhz around 82c.

I was advised to use winflash so I used it to flash.

PsychicCity
07-06-2015, 10:26 AM
i just tested the new BIOS, and damn, made me happy seeing it run GTAV like it should 40-60 fps is amazing thanks TayTayTheKiller for this, true bro

Arcus
07-06-2015, 02:59 PM
Hi dude can you send me this beta drivers pls becouse asus support didnt sned me them and i whant to try them tnx for reply this is my email arcus96@gmail.com

TayTayTheKiller
07-06-2015, 03:31 PM
The link is in the post above.

OCFreak
07-06-2015, 05:31 PM
If it is throttling at 82C, that is the same throttle point as G551JM with GTX860M has.

Should rarely be any problems with 82C.

TayTayTheKiller
07-06-2015, 05:33 PM
If it is throttling at 82C, that is the same throttle point as G551JM with GTX860M has.

Should rarely be any problems with 82C.

Indeed.
I have been playing games all day without any noticeable drop in performance. I'm so happy right now :D

Boxis
07-06-2015, 07:13 PM
This bios should have been there since the laptop came out, because its obvious that when you buy a gaming laptop you usually gonna push it to its limits. But, I guess its better later than never.

Ttm1st
07-07-2015, 04:55 AM
Thanx for sharing the bios TayTayTheKiller . But i wonder is it better to wait till asus release the non beta version ?

PsychicCity
07-07-2015, 10:45 AM
Thanx for sharing the bios TayTayTheKiller . But i wonder is it better to wait till asus release the non beta version ?

welp, im waiting for that and expecting a higher temp. but for now ill stick with the beta, since.. its there already, why not use it right?

TayTayTheKiller
07-07-2015, 12:09 PM
welp, im waiting for that and expecting a higher temp. but for now ill stick with the beta, since.. its there already, why not use it right?

I won't be updating again unless someone confirms the threshold is higher. As they say, if it ain't broke don't fix it :D

PsychicCity
07-07-2015, 01:04 PM
speaking of temp. anyone know how to reset notebook fancontrol? i dont like how my laptop goes loud.. :/

kaps26
07-07-2015, 08:46 PM
Press and hold the power button for 10 seconds of your laptop

PsychicCity
07-08-2015, 01:27 AM
Press and hold the power button for 10 seconds of your laptop
i haev question, what does holding the power button for 10 seconds do?

kaps26
07-08-2015, 06:21 AM
Most of these problems are repaired by resetting the Embedded Controller by pressing and holding the power button for 10 secs until the battery led shuts off and starts again. (https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?58501-Making-of-quot-Official-NotebookFanControl-G751JY-Profile-quot)
Read the third paragraph.
or you can try to remove the battery for some time.

mickey3
07-08-2015, 07:19 AM
Thank you all for your contributions in this topic :D Especially TayTayTheKiller for his beta bios. I will update the beta bios on the first page with a clear warning that it may or may not work.

Ttm1st
07-08-2015, 08:35 AM
I've contacted the support and here is thier answer :
Dear ASUS Valued Customers,

Thanks for your query.

In order for us to find the best solution with the issues of your unit, I advise you to contact our Authorize Service Partner in your area.

Please feel free to contact them with these following details.

What do you think guys . Lol

mickey3
07-08-2015, 09:31 AM
I've contacted the support and here is thier answer :
Dear ASUS Valued Customers,

Thanks for your query.

In order for us to find the best solution with the issues of your unit, I advise you to contact our Authorize Service Partner in your area.

Please feel free to contact them with these following details.

What do you think guys . Lol

As I understand they want you to bring your laptop to the nearest service point for further consultation.
By the way, my laptop is G551JW-CN198D. What are your models? TayTayTheKiller and PsychicCity? A flash failure spells disaster to me :<

Ttm1st
07-08-2015, 09:54 AM
Mine is G551JW-CN042H .. i think it depends on the region . But one must make sure before flashing . I didnt try the beta yet.

Ttm1st
07-08-2015, 10:06 AM
Guys i've checked asus web site and the bios update is available :) horaay
and in the description it says :
Update nVIDIA VBIOS
Congrats every one

mickey3
07-08-2015, 10:24 AM
Guys i've checked asus web site and the bios update is available :) horaay
and in the description it says :
Update nVIDIA VBIOS
Congrats every one

Can you provide the download link? I cannot see the G551jw support page, it is blank to me :O

mickey3
07-08-2015, 10:30 AM
Sorry for double post but I got it working now :D Will update it on the front page!
Thank you everyone (and ASUS) who make this possible! :D

P.s. I did a few tests: the throttling temperature is 79c. Definitely better than the ridiculous 74c in the previous Bios. It is not as high as 82c in G551JM but it works :D

TayTayTheKiller
07-08-2015, 03:41 PM
Sorry for double post but I got it working now :D Will update it on the front page!
Thank you everyone (and ASUS) who make this possible! :D

P.s. I did a few tests: the throttling temperature is 79c. Definitely better than the ridiculous 74c in the previous Bios. It is not as high as 82c in G551JM but it works :D
Odd the beta bios throttling is 82c for me, Looks like i wont be updating lol.

PsychicCity
07-08-2015, 03:55 PM
mine is set at 82c 'tis pretty alright, no need for update :D :D :D :D

Compwxr
07-14-2015, 01:30 AM
Anyone still have the link for the beta bios. Surely it's better than the new ASUS one.

robinthebay
07-14-2015, 06:20 AM
Yeah, I'm looking for it as well

PsychicCity
07-14-2015, 11:16 AM
Anyone still have the link for the beta bios. Surely it's better than the new ASUS one.

its somewhere in the thread, a page behind i think. :)

Compwxr
07-14-2015, 11:40 AM
It was removed :\

Piro
07-14-2015, 05:55 PM
REMOVED
I wonder why...

robinthebay
07-14-2015, 07:19 PM
Hopefully someone still has the file

PackMeSnaps
07-14-2015, 07:33 PM
I know its a dumb question, but what do i do after downloading? all i get is a file i cant open. also, i was taling to customer service about the problem, and they want me to send the laptop in, as they say updating the bios urskelf can cause the laptop to brick

Piro
07-14-2015, 08:54 PM
@PackMeSnaps - U need: http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/Apps_for_Win8.1/WinFlash/WinFlash_Win81_64_VER301.zip

Close all apps. Unpack, install, start, choose bios file.

Compwxr
07-15-2015, 12:14 AM
Not sure if this is worth anything, but here is the inside of our GTX960 bios extracted from version 204
50409

50410

50411

Just messing around a bit. Not willing to risk any further without more knowledge.

robinthebay
07-15-2015, 04:47 AM
So were you able to increase the GPU temp throttle with that software? Thats what it looks like, but Im pretty new to this.

bartat404
07-15-2015, 05:13 AM
How were you able to extract the nVidia BIOS? I can't find any leads. Thanks!

Compwxr
07-15-2015, 11:39 AM
Robinthebay I don't really know, I wish I knew how Piro modded his Bios. bartat, extracted using Phoenix Tool.

Ttm1st
07-18-2015, 11:25 AM
guys i am running the bios provided by usus , can i downgrade to the beta one , as i read here its better right? and i still have it with me just tell me where do u want me to upload it to :D

Compwxr
07-18-2015, 12:29 PM
It would be great of you share it ;)
Ttm1st check for PM

robinthebay
07-18-2015, 06:46 PM
Yes, Please share. You can send it to my email robinthebay@gmail.com. There are also host sites that let you post a file for free.

Compwxr
07-20-2015, 01:08 PM
Any news about that BIOS, the throttling is really upsetting me, even with the new BIOS. 78ºC is far too low... And it seems to be almost stable at 79/80 mark with room temps of 30ºC~. So... for a bit we can't get what we buy. A fully performing gaming notebook, but now we have a crippled one, that comes speed-limited. We all know that this is made to make it last. But do we really need it to last 10 years? 5 years? The way tech is moving. This will be just another laptop in 3-5 years or so, and with good thermal paste, good care and cleaning. Even with higer operating temperatures. It would last enough for us to enjoy until we need to replace the whole equipment. So all I want is a Bios capable of 83ºC or even a bit higher or a way to make the adjustments as "Use it at your own risk"...

bomabomaboma
07-21-2015, 03:07 AM
A PM would be greatly appreciated!

Compwxr
07-21-2015, 02:36 PM
Yes, I would love to have throttling set to 82ºC like some lucky guys out here ;)

Ttm1st
07-23-2015, 02:44 PM
hay guys, here is the file G551jw beta bios (https://www.mediafire.com/?i97q6r9gcrvlrmn)
Question : i've flashed the latest bios, can i flash back the beta now or is it too late?

Seishiro
07-23-2015, 04:13 PM
Same question with Ttm1st. I updated the Bios with the file in the Asus support page. Mine reached 79°C but I think I need to get it to 82°C.. Can I flash back the beta?

Compwxr
07-23-2015, 04:30 PM
Dunno Seishiro but if you still have the Beta one, please upload it so other users can enjoy it too :)

n.wing
07-23-2015, 06:05 PM
Hi guys, I had the official .204 BIOS flashed and just did the beta one from Ttm1st's post through EZ Flash from the BIOS menu. It seems it has a newer build date so that the utility won't block the flashing process. For now everything works great, I just tested it and reach 82C before the videocard starts to throttle.

And that 4C difference is absolutely huge! For instance, with the .204 BIOS in Far Cry 4 the card throttled down to 450 MHz after 1-2 minutes, and to get playable frequency I had to disable TurboBoost (by setting max CPU power to 99% in the power plan). Now I can play with TurboBoost on and constantly get between 980MHz and max (boosted) frequency on the card (tested for about 30 minutes).

Compwxr
07-23-2015, 06:59 PM
n.wing, +1 to all that you said. One problem is solved. Next one is remove the awfull thermal paste they have in this system. Already installed the T06 Bios and all going smooth. My model is GL551JW-CN086H. 82ºC Throttle Temp working and it makes a huge difference like you said. In GTA 5 with Core oc to 1300mhz it never throttles, even with the CPU Turbo Boost enabled.

A HUGE thank you to Ttm1st for providing the BIOS :D

n.wing
07-23-2015, 07:35 PM
How do you do the OC and undervolting? MSI Afterburner?

Regarding the repasting, I am considering waiting 1 year for the ASUS Reliability Promotion to expire, but I might not be that patient if temperatures start to rise too much :D.

Compwxr
07-23-2015, 11:50 PM
Undervolting is only possible by modding the vBios, oc I do in Afterburner :)
Well managed to see that with this BIOS it's possible to Overvolt using Nvidia Inspector, but there is no use to it with the core clock locked to +135mhz. Undervolting seems locked.

Seishiro
07-24-2015, 01:17 AM
@Compwxr I just downloaded Ttm1st's uploaded file. :)

Is it safe to use winflash for flashing the beta bios while in the latest version? Just new to these kind of stuff so sorry for the questions :)

Compwxr
07-24-2015, 02:09 AM
Seishiro, no problem at all.
Well to be honest it's not 100% safe, it can fail, it can be model specific. I did it at my own risk and it worked. Anyway my model is GL551JW.
But no risk, no gain. :D

n.wing
07-24-2015, 03:45 AM
@Seishiro, I'd suggest using Ez flash from the Bios menu, it's much safer. You can follow the instructions here (http://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1008859).

Seishiro
07-24-2015, 04:13 AM
Thanks. Hope this will work on my G551JW-CN081H. :)

Seishiro
07-24-2015, 06:48 AM
The update was nice. Reached 82 degrees with Furmark. Thanks n.wing for the instructions =))

Compwxr
07-24-2015, 12:12 PM
Great it worked for you Seishiro. I would like to know if someone have been able to mod vbios, I'm failing in making winflash accept it, didn't try ezflash yet. It were great if Piro shared is toughts here.

AlexAegis
07-26-2015, 03:05 PM
The throttling is caused by high temperatures which is caused by the CPU, not the GPU (since they share the same heatsink) If you disable the Intel Turbo Boost you can greatly improve your laptops temperature. Just go to Power Settings and change your plan, search for the CPU policy, set both minimum and maximum values to 99%. (Just be sure the minimum value is equal or less than the maximum value, otherwise it wont work) This will lock the CPU to 2,55 Ghz.

mickey3
08-03-2015, 11:07 AM
Hi guys!

I removed the Bios link from the post because I though the official bios from Asus support page was safer. However, I give the beta bios a try today. It works amazingly well. I use Winflash, which boot into EZ Flash anyway, to update Bios. Since the build date is 28.05.2015, it is possible to "update" from bios revision 204. The new temperature ceiling is 82c, as confirmed by other members.

I will update the beta bios on the first page. From several attempts in this topic, it is reasonably safe to flash such bios revision (T06).

robinthebay
08-03-2015, 07:15 PM
Yes, the gains are not to be underestimated. I am now able to run The Witcher 3 at 1080 on High settings, where as before I had to run it at 900p. However, I still run it at 900p and get around 40-50 fps sometimes more. This was not possible with the 79c throttle.

Compwxr
08-03-2015, 10:27 PM
And with a nice OC in the GTX960M I'm being able to play it at maxed out settings except MSAA without throttling at all :)

alumbaya
08-04-2015, 11:20 PM
the beta bios worked for me :) thanks!!

(unrelated) have any of you switched to windows 10 yet?

PsychicCity
08-05-2015, 10:38 AM
the beta bios worked for me :) thanks!!

(unrelated) have any of you switched to windows 10 yet?

I have, and I'm loving it so far. :D (Cortana is the best)

gunswills
08-06-2015, 07:36 AM
hi all new on here , until last month i had a g551jm but spilt wine on it and killed it , i now have a g551jw cn080h , read alot about throttling and was very disappointed , but however i took a punt and installed the beta bios , which nvidia inspector shows has raised the temp to 82 degrees , also disabled the turbo using the power management way , and to be fair all is working great, although such a shame that we have to revrt to doing all this on a new laptop, never had these issues with my g551jm

alumbaya
08-07-2015, 03:37 PM
Me too. Anything is better than windows 8 XD

nevven
08-16-2015, 04:00 PM
I'm running Windows 10 Pro on G551JW, latest BIOS and latest drivers. When I run Furmark at P1080 it will go to 78C in exactly 1 minute (ambient temp is 23C) and start throttling. Is that what you guys get?
Also Furmark crashes when benchmark finishes and result should come up. MSI Kombustor can't even start tests, it crashes too. HW problem?

player1_fanatic
08-18-2015, 06:37 AM
Thanks to beta BIOS download!

With it, I can confirm throttling from 82C, instead of 74C with original BIOS. Also better then updated official BIOS that throttles from 78C.

This combined with 99% processor power state (to disable turbo boost), greatly reduces chance and effects of throttling with my 960M in G551JW.

jlinares
08-19-2015, 02:18 PM
This post really helps, I've been very disappointed to G551JW but with this beta vBios the FPS in FSX are incresed significantly. Think you to follow up this thread.

Funkave
08-22-2015, 03:26 PM
There is a new bios n the official support site - version 205 - updating the GOP driver, has anybody tried it already?

player1_fanatic
08-22-2015, 03:33 PM
Whoever tries 205 BIOS, please share throttling temperature value.

bartat404
08-23-2015, 12:53 AM
There is a new bios n the official support site - version 205 - updating the GOP driver, has anybody tried it already?

I was going to try this, but I don't see the 205 BIOS on the website. Would you mind providing a link?

I hope this resolves an issue I've been having. The Beta BIOS works wonderfully for me, however it completely breaks sleep mode and there's nothing I can really do about it.

Funkave
08-23-2015, 08:06 AM
This is the link: https://www.asus.com/Notebooks/G551JW/HelpDesk_Download/

nevven
08-23-2015, 12:12 PM
BIOS 205 throttles @ 78C

player1_fanatic
08-23-2015, 04:56 PM
Disappointing... I guess I'll then keep using T06 beta BIOS.

bartat404
08-23-2015, 05:29 PM
This is the link: https://www.asus.com/Notebooks/G551JW/HelpDesk_Download/

Every time I visit that page, this is the error I get.

Service Unavailable

HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable.

player1_fanatic
08-25-2015, 06:11 AM
I hope this resolves an issue I've been having. The Beta BIOS works wonderfully for me, however it completely breaks sleep mode and there's nothing I can really do about it.

Can you explain?
I have no issues with sleep mode using T06 beta BIOS.
I'm using Win8.1, if that matters.

AceMan
09-01-2015, 04:25 PM
where do i get the beta bios?

aeolisio
09-01-2015, 05:02 PM
where do i get the beta bios?
Its gone unless someone still has a copy but since then bios 205 has been released so you might try that.

Compwxr
09-01-2015, 05:56 PM
I still have the T06 bios, PM me if anyone needs it.

AceMan
09-01-2015, 07:35 PM
i found it a few pages ago... thanks

AceMan
09-01-2015, 07:49 PM
this computer still sucks unfortunately.. I feel like I got ripped off for over 1000 bucks.
final fantasy type-0 with
1080p max settings i get 2fps
1080p lowest settings it gets 13-14fps
720 max settings 4fps
720 low settings it gets steady 30 but it looks like total garbage

this is the story for pretty much every game that ive tried.. i was so excited when witcher 3 came out right when i got this thing. totally unplayable. like i said, you can play it in 720p lowest settings but i didnt spend 1000 to get that poor performance. i guess i did in reality wah wah

i really want to like this computer but its been a rough ride since the start. the only game ive been satisfied playing was magic duels origins but it has lower reqs obv

if your planning on playing games on this thing. save your money or just buy a ps4/xbox1 and a $500 tv.

aeolisio
09-01-2015, 08:12 PM
this computer still sucks unfortunately.. I feel like I got ripped off for over 1000 bucks.
final fantasy type-0 with
1080p max settings i get 2fps
1080p lowest settings it gets 13-14fps
720 max settings 4fps
720 low settings it gets steady 30 but it looks like total garbage

this is the story for pretty much every game that ive tried.. i was so excited when witcher 3 came out right when i got this thing. totally unplayable. like i said, you can play it in 720p lowest settings but i didnt spend 1000 to get that poor performance. i guess i did in reality wah wah

i really want to like this computer but its been a rough ride since the start. the only game ive been satisfied playing was magic duels origins but it has lower reqs obv

if your planning on playing games on this thing. save your money or just buy a ps4/xbox1 and a $500 tv.
Or maybe buy something a little bigger than a 960m if you want to play the newest most gpu demanding games at max settings.....I have no problems playing anything it never gets below 60fps.

bartat404
09-02-2015, 01:29 AM
this computer still sucks unfortunately.. I feel like I got ripped off for over 1000 bucks.
final fantasy type-0 with
1080p max settings i get 2fps
1080p lowest settings it gets 13-14fps
720 max settings 4fps
720 low settings it gets steady 30 but it looks like total garbage

this is the story for pretty much every game that ive tried.. i was so excited when witcher 3 came out right when i got this thing. totally unplayable. like i said, you can play it in 720p lowest settings but i didnt spend 1000 to get that poor performance. i guess i did in reality wah wah

i really want to like this computer but its been a rough ride since the start. the only game ive been satisfied playing was magic duels origins but it has lower reqs obv

if your planning on playing games on this thing. save your money or just buy a ps4/xbox1 and a $500 tv.

Are you sure these games are launching with the Nvidia GPU? You should be getting better FPS than that.

Compwxr
09-02-2015, 03:22 AM
I can get Witcher 3 to run at Full HD with almost all settings in ultra. With a consistent +35 FPS, if you don't bother the graphic quality you can even get 60 FPS... I think it's mostly software mistakes on your part, not hardware ones. It is true that 960m doesn't compare to 970m and higher GPU's but it ain't that bad either... Other than the bad thermal paste this is a awesome gaming budget laptop. And ofc, there are always some tweaks for those who like to take risks, like modding vbios like I did, enabling greater oc's. Currently im being able to get 1400mhz on core and 3200mhz on memory stable making a huge difference from the stock clocks.

player1_fanatic
09-04-2015, 04:31 AM
Its gone unless someone still has a copy but since then bios 205 has been released so you might try that.

You can still find its download link in the first post.
T06 beta is still superior with its limit set to 82C, unlike 205, which has 78C.

player1_fanatic
09-04-2015, 04:38 AM
I can get Witcher 3 to run at Full HD with almost all settings in ultra.

Lets be frank, you can get over 30fps (barely) with 1080p and default medium settings.
Sure you can also put most of the setting at ultra, and get similar frame rate, but you would need to set at least all hairworks off, shadows low and medium/low view distance, and since these are actually only settings that are demeaning, you can hardly call that custom present an "ultra".

Personally I play with following preset:

Postprocess preset: High
*Motion Blur off
*Depth off field off
*Sharpen low
*SSAO

Graphics preset: Ultra
*Hairworks off
*Shadows low
*distance view medium

With these setting I get slightly above 30fps on 1080p, but I personally prefer to switch to 1600x900 to get frame rate in 35-45 range.

player1_fanatic
09-04-2015, 04:50 AM
There is new BIOS 207 on the Asus official download page, with only description being "Update EC firmware".
Can anyone check what is its temperature throttle limit for the GPU?

Funkave
09-04-2015, 05:51 PM
There is new BIOS 207 on the Asus official download page, with only description being "Update EC firmware".
Can anyone check what is its temperature throttle limit for the GPU?

Still 78C unfortunately.

Compwxr
09-05-2015, 12:03 AM
Lets be frank, you can get over 30fps (barely) with 1080p and default medium settings.
Sure you can also put most of the setting at ultra, and get similar frame rate, but you would need to set at least all hairworks off, shadows low and medium/low view distance, and since these are actually only settings that are demeaning, you can hardly call that custom present an "ultra".

Personally I play with following preset:

Postprocess preset: High
*Motion Blur off
*Depth off field off
*Sharpen low
*SSAO

Graphics preset: Ultra
*Hairworks off
*Shadows low
*distance view medium

With these setting I get slightly above 30fps on 1080p, but I personally prefer to switch to 1600x900 to get frame rate in 35-45 range.

Actually, all Post-process except motion blur are maxed out. True, I don't have the hairworks on because it just don't justify the performance hit in visual experience. Shadows are high and view distance is high too. Only those. And ofc SMAA off :)

player1_fanatic
09-05-2015, 07:10 AM
^ I would recommend shadows at low, since it gives good performance boost, without any visible change.

Exempt hairworks, distance at ultra is great performance killer (diff between medium and high has small impact).

Compwxr
09-05-2015, 01:22 PM
True, but I have to say, with a decent overclock, this graphic card is way better than it seems. Also there are major gains in memory oc. I can tell a big difference between the stock 2500mhz clock to 3200mhz

player1_fanatic
09-05-2015, 06:45 PM
But how to gain anything with overclock, when with standard clock, with 100% utilization, it can get to throttle limits (78C/82C)?

bartat404
09-05-2015, 09:09 PM
But how to gain anything with overclock, when with standard clock, with 100% utilization, it can get to throttle limits (78C/82C)?

Some people have taken this laptop apart, and re-applied the thermal compound to the CPU and GPU and this yields far better thermal cooling than the regular compound (The default compound ASUS uses is rather low quality).

Compwxr
09-05-2015, 11:44 PM
Actually, I didn't repaste as I'm not willing to loose permanently the warranty with a notebook only 2 months old. The modded vBios can be easily replaced. For me what worked best was a little undervolt on CPU side and disable the turbo-boost. 2.6Ghz is more than enough for most games out there. That keeps temps around 75-80ºC. Ofc in some cases it goes up to throttling levels but only for a while. Also there's always ability to play with GPU core voltage to get it a bit undervolted at stock clocks. That could possibly lead to higher gains in temp side, but requires testing ofc.
It would be great if we still had "Piro" active at the forum to share is thoughts about OC and repaste. He was pioneer in it ;)

revanshe
09-07-2015, 10:50 AM
Hello everybody!

I have a question as I have a plan to buy this laptop (G551JW-DS74) this weekend. Is this issue fixed now? Is this as simple as installing the latest BIOS? I was thinking that maybe ASUS already installed their latest BIOS on the laptops that are about to be ordered/released. TIA :)

Compwxr
09-07-2015, 11:17 AM
Well, It's kinda solved. If you install latest BIOS, it gives a bit more headroom "78ºC", with Beta Bios that im running for a long time now, there are no issues at all and the Throttling temp's are "82º C". So there's always something to be made ;)

revanshe
09-08-2015, 04:39 AM
Well, It's kinda solved. If you install latest BIOS, it gives a bit more headroom "78ºC", with Beta Bios that im running for a long time now, there are no issues at all and the Throttling temp's are "82º C". So there's always something to be made ;)

Compared to other laptops with same specs, is 78 degrees Celcius that low for throttling threshold? Can other laptops go up until 90 degrees?

aeolisio
09-08-2015, 11:20 AM
Compared to other laptops with same specs, is 78 degrees Celcius that low for throttling threshold? Can other laptops go up until 90 degrees?
Sure laptops with better thermal design like the g751 can handle higher temps. Just because that sensor is 78 doesnt mean the hottest area is 78 it just means that sensor is. They may have set it to 78 because at a higher temp it may damage surrounding hardware.

Stricken
09-17-2015, 04:37 PM
hey guys,
I just bought my asus g551jw 960m 1 week ago, and i do have some problems with the heating.
i am about to order a Cooler Master Notepal X3, but i searched on the bios updates and i found 3 of them.
-BIOS 207 Update EC firmware, BIOS 205 Update GOP driver,BIOS 204 Update nVIDIA VBIOS.

I am not very good at PCs but will any of them help me improve my laptops performance/heating issues?

Thanks

Funkave
09-17-2015, 06:26 PM
Interesting comment in this post (the g501 has the same hardware and more throttling problems), it seems like significantly reducing the CPU load can prevent the GPU to reach 79c.

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?74051-g501-gaming-fps-and-throttling

player1_fanatic
09-17-2015, 07:11 PM
Not really new.
I'm setting power state to 99% (just to disable turbo boost), when playing games, and that is enough either to not have throttling or when there is some that is has less performance impact.

Thus more frame rate overall.

Funkave
09-19-2015, 06:09 PM
Not really new.
I'm setting power state to 99% (just to disable turbo boost), when playing games, and that is enough either to not have throttling or when there is some that is has less performance impact.

Thus more frame rate overall.

Mmm not exactly, I was referring to the tip of HALVING cpu power state. In this case the GPU never reaches 78 degrees while playing Witcher 3 at 1080. While at 99% it still does, and quite often....

player1_fanatic
09-20-2015, 08:02 AM
Mmm not exactly, I was referring to the tip of HALVING cpu power state. In this case the GPU never reaches 78 degrees while playing Witcher 3 at 1080. While at 99% it still does, and quite often....

Well, its same setting.
It's just matter of preference how much to reduce CPU power, without getting slowdowns due to CPU limits.
Thanks to i7 having 8 virtual cores, game really does not suffer much with CPU power halved.


Anyway, here are my observations I posted in laptop GPU thread on Witcher 3 board:
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/36763-Witcher-3-Performance-on-mobile-GPUs/page28



I did some utilization tests in the Novigrad central square during the day (running around).

I'm using Intel i7-4720HQ, quad core with HT, with 2.6GHz and 3.4GHz Turbo Boost.

I was testing downgrading CPU frequency (through power options) and reducing number of cores available (through processor affinity for witcher3.exe), and how it affects GPU utilization (used GPU-Z to test that).

8 cores, 0.8GHz - around 45-60% GPU utilization
8 cores, 1.0GHz - around 60-85% GPU utilization
8 cores, 1.1GHz - around 80-90% GPU utilization
8 cores, 1.2GHz - around 85-99% GPU utilization
8 cores, 1.3-2.6GHz - around 95-99% GPU utilization (more stable the higher the clock)

4 cores, 0.8GHz - around 35-45% GPU utilization, has sound shuttering
4 cores, 1.1GHz - around 45-55% GPU utilization, no sound shuttering anymore
4 cores, 1.3GHz - around 45-65% GPU utilization
4 cores, 1.6GHz - around 60-75% GPU utilization
4 cores, 1.9GHz - around 70-85% GPU utilization
4 cores, 2.1GHz - around 80-95% GPU utilization
4 cores, 2.4GHz - around 85-99% GPU utilization
4 cores, 2.6GHz - around 90-99% GPU utilization

As you can see, W3 uses multi-threading very well, and there is noticeable positive impact on lower clock with more cores.
Still, to be able to make use of 960M without performance drop in areas like Novigrad, you do need to have at least i5 with high CPU clock.

Anyway, you can get away with 50% CPU speed, on G551JW, but anything less will lead to drop in performance.
Mobile Core i5 users will not be so lucky, since any drop in speed would lead to lower GPU utilization. Of course, this is only in CPU intensive areas, where these tests were performed.

BladeX_1975
09-28-2015, 01:21 AM
I've read almost the entire tread, I just bought a N551 JW with almost the same configuration of the G551 JW specs are: Intel® Core™ i7 4720HQ ; IPS FHD (1920x1080); Intel® HD Graphics 4600 & NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 960M 2GB; 1TB HDD 7200 RPM; …..And tried to install the beta bios, but the installer says the bios is inappropriate for the model… I guess is recognizes that is not a G551, and in the user service don’t give any answer :confused:…. So I got stuck with the problem and no solution at sight…. I’m never tweaked a bios, and would appreciate all the help you can give me…. If anyone out there have solved the problem in this model.

Compwxr
09-28-2015, 01:51 AM
Hello there, you can't just install a different laptop bios, even if it has similar specs. If the winflash tool allowed you to do it, the result was a big expensive paperweight. I just spent the last 3 hours checking almost each module of the G551JW bios with hope to find where the throttling temp is stored but ain't got any luck with it.

player1_fanatic
09-30-2015, 07:51 AM
While technically N551JW is just reskin of G551JW without ROG brand, it is still considered separate model.

Now, you do have official updated BIOS here:
https://www.asus.com/Notebooks/N551JW/HelpDesk_Download/

BIOS 204 has same changelist as the one for G551JW, that increased throttling limit to 78C:
BIOS 204
Update nV VBIOS

So upgrading to newest v207 should probably give same benefit as for G551JW, which is increasing throttling limit from 74C to 78C.
Not the same as beta T06 BIOS limit of 82C, but is something.

BladeX_1975
09-30-2015, 03:41 PM
While technically N551JW is just reskin of G551JW without ROG brand, it is still considered separate model.

Now, you do have official updated BIOS here:
https://www.asus.com/Notebooks/N551JW/HelpDesk_Download/

BIOS 204 has same changelist as the one for G551JW, that increased throttling limit to 78C:
BIOS 204
Update nV VBIOS

So upgrading to newest v207 should probably give same benefit as for G551JW, which is increasing throttling limit from 74C to 78C.
Not the same as beta T06 BIOS limit of 82C, but is something.


I have the bios in the last update the 207, the NVidia drivers are at the 355.98 version, and it keeps throttling the speed to 405MHz at 74°C.

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I tried to download the bios with the GPUZ 0.8.5, the nvflash_5.218.0.1, and in both don’t let it read the bios.
I also write ASUS and the answer was to take the computer to “technical service”. :mad::mad::mad:

player1_fanatic
09-30-2015, 07:04 PM
With original BIOS, at 74C, you are never supposed to get "drastic" throttling, it should just downclock GPU gradually to not go over that temperature.

Getting the clock down to 405Mhz would indicate some serious heating issues, if running at 405Mhz is required to keep GPU not going over 74C.

Still, I would like seeing GPU-Z results during heavy load. Run some game windowed with GPU-Z Sensors screen visible at the background.

BladeX_1975
10-03-2015, 06:07 PM
With original BIOS, at 74C, you are never supposed to get "drastic" throttling, it should just downclock GPU gradually to not go over that temperature.

Getting the clock down to 405Mhz would indicate some serious heating issues, if running at 405Mhz is required to keep GPU not going over 74C.

Still, I would like seeing GPU-Z results during heavy load. Run some game windowed with GPU-Z Sensors screen visible at the background.

Right now i send the computer to technical service, so right now i have to wait until they make all the test to find out if is a problem of hardware. But i can tell you, when i run any game in the moment the GPU reach 74C it downclock to 405MHz in about 1 min. and then never modifies the speed to keep the temp. arround 74C.

pbhenry
10-04-2015, 08:56 PM
with t.06 there should be no thermal throttle, as with heavy stress tests and even an overclock on the gpu, the highest temps ive seen it reach were 77c with gpu z monitering and again no downclocking. I advise downloading "notebook fancontrol" as well and selecting the "zenbook ux31a" profile and forcing the fan to run at 100% when you need it. Are people still having issues?

Compwxr
10-04-2015, 11:03 PM
Well, about the temps, all depends on your thermal paste, fan speed and most important. Room temp. If you run you laptop in a cool place you won't get to throttling levels. In my case, with 30ºc room temp it's rather easy to get 82ºc and throttling. With 20ºc hardly gets there.

ZIXEL
10-10-2015, 05:47 AM
Hi guys ty for all i flashed my 207 bios to T06 , i found a way how to downgrade date flash any VERSION BIOS , see this post just using WINFLASH

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?11438-How-to-downgrade-your-Bios-using-Winflash

works for me !

ZIXEL
10-14-2015, 12:17 AM
guys someone knows another beta BIOS like T06 than can throttle to 90-95 C?

siqueirah
10-14-2015, 12:42 AM
Anything like this for a GL551JM ?

dunedune
10-14-2015, 06:09 AM
I dont think so .... Because the only updated BIOS asus released it was maximum 82C T06 ... The only thing left now is looking for some 1 to mod Vbios because these restricted limitations are locked there .

h3ll4ngel
10-18-2015, 09:39 AM
Hi all, I use FurMark to stress GPU and i see it down to 940mhz in 78*C (using CPU-z). I am using bios v204.

So now i want to change to bios beta T06, how can u do it with non risk, i dont even try before and i read that it could lead to crash the laptop or die.

Or I can adjust the GPU mhz to higher to avoid lower performance by throttle right ?

Is just GPU is throttle or CPU also ?. And I try to disable turbo boost but i cant see where to change to 99% regards to the guide. My laptop just has system cooling in the processor power management, so where i can disable it ?

Looking for advice

dunedune
10-18-2015, 11:37 AM
Hi all, I use FurMark to stress GPU and i see it down to 940mhz in 78*C (using CPU-z). I am using bios v204.

So now i want to change to bios beta T06, how can u do it with non risk, i dont even try before and i read that it could lead to crash the laptop or die.

Or I can adjust the GPU mhz to higher to avoid lower performance by throttle right ?

Is just GPU is throttle or CPU also ?. And I try to disable turbo boost but i cant see where to change to 99% regards to the guide. My laptop just has system cooling in the processor power management, so where i can disable it ?

Looking for advice


Hi , dont worry you are on safe direction

First you must Downgrade your BIOS to 202 . Download 202 BIOS from official Asus website .
To downgrade Follow this video Carefully :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X0VKGsU40U

This method working for all ROG series (ONLY)

Remember That BETA BIOS is more flexible than original because its gonna increase GPU Temp to 82C instead of 78C , i know its sounds sucks ,but what should we do to their stupid rubbish rules :mad:

However,After you successful downgrade to 202 , open Winflash from your windows search bar ,If its not available download it from Asus site .
Then select Next ----> Get BIOS from Device . Then select 1 of the BETA BIOS i uploaded by following links :

http://www.mediafire.com/download/1126tq4984dbcej/Asus+strix+Beta+BIOS+for+TEMP.zip

Try 1 of them ,Because maybe the other 1 will be missing
Note : Overclocking limits are locked ,Temp increased to 82C
Actually CPU Temp limit in G551jw model is 95C , So no need to worry its quite fine . When the CPU & GPU reaching maxed Temp the throttle will begin to reduce both ( GPU Load & MHz Core clock ) to keep it balanced with performance .

Have fun !:o

h3ll4ngel
10-18-2015, 01:11 PM
Hi , dont worry you are on safe direction

First you must Downgrade your BIOS to 202 . Download 202 BIOS from official Asus website .
To downgrade Follow this video Carefully :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X0VKGsU40U

This method working for all ROG series (ONLY)

Remember That BETA BIOS is more flexible than original because its gonna increase GPU Temp to 82C instead of 78C , i know its sounds sucks ,but what should we do to their stupid rubbish rules :mad:

However,After you successful downgrade to 202 , open Winflash from your windows search bar ,If its not available download it from Asus site .
Then select Next ----> Get BIOS from Device . Then select 1 of the BETA BIOS i uploaded by following links :

http://www.mediafire.com/download/1126tq4984dbcej/Asus+strix+Beta+BIOS+for+TEMP.zip

Try 1 of them ,Because maybe the other 1 will be missing
Note : Overclocking limits are locked ,Temp increased to 82C
Actually CPU Temp limit in G551jw model is 95C , So no need to worry its quite fine . When the CPU & GPU reaching maxed Temp the throttle will begin to reduce both ( GPU Load & MHz Core clock ) to keep it balanced with performance .

Have fun !:o
Tks for a great reply, also It has to be v202 to go bios beta right ?

dunedune
10-19-2015, 07:10 AM
Yes , because Beta Bios released after 202 .

h3ll4ngel
10-22-2015, 09:20 PM
How can I disable turbo boost, i always see my cpu core clock at 3.4ghz in CPU-Z, but in task manager is 2.6ghz . Then which one is correct ?
Should i turn on or off ?

ZIXEL
10-23-2015, 01:08 AM
change to medium in power mode , u will see 2,40 in that mode ,

h3ll4ngel
10-23-2015, 06:22 AM
change to medium in power mode , u will see 2,40 in that mode ,

Can you give me a picture, i cant find section like this to change bro. And if you change to a normal. It means the performance and temp are lower right? ?

Camill
10-23-2015, 06:43 AM
Click on your battery and you will see the power plans. Set "medium" because probably you have "max performance". Or you must enter "advanced power settings" and change the minimal CPU usage from 100% to for example 5%.

h3ll4ngel
10-23-2015, 02:20 PM
this is my power plan, i dont have section to adjust
http://www.upsieutoc.com/images/2015/10/23/Untitled387bc.png

ZIXEL
10-23-2015, 05:27 PM
you are in power saver , change to medium , in medium pls go to MAX PERFORMANCE CPU ENERGY or something like that and change 100% to 80% or less , u can control ur CPU in taskmanager

h3ll4ngel
10-23-2015, 07:13 PM
you are in power saver , change to medium , in medium pls go to MAX PERFORMANCE CPU ENERGY or something like that and change 100% to 80% or less , u can control ur CPU in taskmanager

medium u mean is balance mode ? I did but dont see anything like cpu performance :( dont even have 100 or 80 to adjust :(
how to control through taskmanager
In my task manager it shows 2.59ghz
but in cpu-z it always is 3.39ghz even idle
which one is correct bro ?

laurcj
11-19-2015, 12:27 PM
Hello everybody,

I would like to buy an Asus G551JW tomorrow as I found it at a good price, but I'm kind of worried about this thermal throttling issue. Is the throttling caused only by the GPU?

Basically I want to buy it for the CPU and for the IPS screen. I will rarely use it for games, maybe only some old titles from time to time, but it could happen that I need to do some CPU intensive tasks. In this situation is it possible to run into thermal throttling for the CPU, since I will mostly use only the integrated graphic card?

Also if I flash the beta bios which increase the temperature value when the throttling appears will this void my warranty?

Thanks in advance for your help !

Radu04
11-20-2015, 10:19 AM
Hello guys! I will update today the bios but I have a question: what Nvidia driver should I use?

LE: I have a G551JW notebook.

dunedune
11-22-2015, 04:29 AM
Use the original driver from Asustek website 347.xx

Finalfour
11-23-2015, 02:35 PM
WHY? I use latest driver from nvidia site and all perfect.

Pastaga51
01-27-2016, 04:07 PM
Hi,
I am 207 bios, how to pass T6?

sorry for my English, I use google translation.

Compwxr
01-29-2016, 12:22 AM
You have to flash it with winflash tool. Search about the /nodate function. You'll find it over the net.

Pastaga51
01-30-2016, 09:30 AM
You have to flash it with winflash tool. Search about the /nodate function. You'll find it over the net.

Ok thx.

player1_fanatic
04-01-2016, 08:40 PM
Anyone knows what BIOS Version 209, released today, does?

http://www.asus.com/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-G551JW/HelpDesk_Download/

And what is GPU throttling limit with it?

Gironne
04-04-2016, 08:44 PM
Anyone knows what BIOS Version 209, released today, does?

http://www.asus.com/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-G551JW/HelpDesk_Download/

And what is GPU throttling limit with it?

Anything !


Always 78 degrees..

Gironne
04-04-2016, 08:45 PM
You have to flash it with winflash tool. Search about the /nodate function. You'll find it over the net.

Compwxr, i would like to change the limit temperature, with bios t06 it's 82 but despite the 100 % fan speed, for some overclock et some games (like Attila, Rome 2), gpu throttle again, advices ? :p

Compwxr
04-08-2016, 01:06 AM
Well my only advice, since modders are focusing better models like 970m / 980m and forgetting mid entry 960m would be repaste with a good thermal paste, but since it voids the warranty, even being well made, some pastes have different aspects / colors. Things that are noticeable by any experienced technicians. About Bios 209, no big news, seems that it performs equal to last vBios or atleast I don't see any difference. I will stick with T06 with unlocked power limit / clocks

Compwxr
04-08-2016, 01:12 AM
And for moderators, this thread should be in the GL category, since it refers to GL551JW model, not G551

player1_fanatic
04-08-2016, 05:08 AM
This BIOS is for G551JW, not GL551W. I have no idea why you think it refers to GL model.

Black Phoenix
04-08-2016, 01:04 PM
The Bios are for both models, the G551JW and GL551JW. I say that because I have the GL551JW and have also updated my BIOS.

The Difference in the G551JW and GL551JW is basically the markets were it sells and their options in terms of memory and HDD/SSD. For example in Portugal the GL model was being sold, in UK it were the G.

EtaCarinaeSC
07-16-2016, 07:53 AM
I sport a fully unlocked 960m vbios with the target temperature slider active.
+135 mhz barrier of OC is lifted
+Voltage control is allowed 1.2mv is max ~1.45ghz median stable you cannot go crazy, sorry.
+Power optimizations for maximum performance between 1100 and 1300mhz.
Whoever needs to keep warm his tea while gaming on G551J series can PM me and I will send him details on how when and where to get one.
Note that the vbios must be integrated in the actual bios.


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You can ask anything in this thread.
Thermal throttling RIP.

PS: I am not responsible for any damage done to your notebook while using the modded vbios. You do everything with your clear thought and realizing the risks of
flashing system BIOS and using modded vbioses.

Compwxr
07-17-2016, 03:23 AM
I would love to know how you lifted the thermal throttling, can you send me PM with further info, I found out that changing min plc values lifts the core clock 135mhz limit :) to all maxwell vcards i suppose :)

EtaCarinaeSC
07-17-2016, 08:59 AM
I would love to know how you lifted the thermal throttling, can you send me PM with further info, I found out that changing min plc values lifts the core clock 135mhz limit :) to all maxwell vcards i suppose :)

I send a PM explaining + as it's said in the thread itself sporting a modded vbios including the following, it's a vbios tweakage.

Compwxr
07-18-2016, 01:43 AM
Guys I have excelent news, thanks to EtaCarinaeSC I've found while tweaking in Hex the 960m vBios where it saves the Temp throttle target, and with it enable via oc software any temp you like for throttling target, just 1 small line of code :) This applies to any card 2GB or 4GB version. Also found out how to unlock core clock slider from the 135mhz limit giving the Headroom you choose. Finally we have expertise to fully unlock 960m vBios :D

Compwxr
07-18-2016, 01:52 AM
Some eyecandy
1400Mhz Core Clock
3200Mhz Memory Clock -> 6400Mhz Effective
86º Throttling Temp

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Diversion
07-22-2016, 06:53 PM
Some eyecandy
1400Mhz Core Clock
3200Mhz Memory Clock -> 6400Mhz Effective
86º Throttling Temp

58266

Good job figuring out how to unlock our BIOS.. I sent you a PM.. I'd like to do the mod myself.. Perhaps we can recompile a flashable Bios for all users as well!

Diversion
07-24-2016, 12:50 AM
Can't seem to get ahold of either one of you for that BIOS :/

Compwxr
07-24-2016, 04:01 AM
Already sent you PM, check your inbox :)

dunedune
07-26-2016, 08:52 AM
OMG , Good job compwxr ! Finally no more pain while playing heavy games :)

ZIXEL
07-27-2016, 02:36 PM
Already sent you PM, check your inbox :)

bro can you pls send me the pm with instructions too ? , your last sent does not work , thanks a lot ,

Compwxr
07-27-2016, 06:00 PM
Already tested with @Diversion, and it worked fine :)

VKiritsugu
07-29-2016, 01:51 PM
can I also get the tweak? thanks! :)

iutzi
08-05-2016, 04:19 PM
Hey guys, I would like to do the tweak too, can any of you post instructions on how to do it or maby pm me? It would be much appreciated by the community if you would make the tweak accessible
Thanx!

Compwxr
08-06-2016, 12:03 AM
Anyone interested in raising the temp limits or unlocking core sliders can PM me with a backup of their current Bios. Anyway I should remember that it voids warranty but it's possible to downgrade to stock values by flashing official Bios. Anyway do it at your own risk :)

Rockman
08-11-2016, 08:04 PM
Tired of monkeying around with Asus, had the laptop RMA'd they thought the best solution would be to factory restore the laptop which i could have done at home.
Then after 3 ignored phone calls from the laptop number and 2 support agents who had no idea what I was talking about I decided to contact mobo support to express
my problem in hopes they would be able to send me a modified version of the bios to curb the problem, was quoted a 24-48 hr response time, well, 1 week later i've heard nothing.
time to resort to downgrading to the beta bios or the one Compwxr has available through Winflash, this thread has been a huge help for me.

Compwxr
08-12-2016, 12:11 AM
Well check your PM's, I'm willing to help anyone :) even with different models with GTX 960m

Rockman
08-12-2016, 12:32 AM
Thank goodness you're around, just finished flashing the beta T06 bios and can confirm that it works beautifully, 82C throttle no problem, but the laptop still struggles sadly.

Compwxr
08-12-2016, 02:20 AM
Then test the new one and enjoy, it only works in UEFI thought...

Rockman
08-12-2016, 02:35 AM
Then test the new one and enjoy, it only works in UEFI thought...

Only in UEFI? wait, so I can flash the bios with the rom you gave me?

Compwxr
08-12-2016, 10:18 AM
You flash with the same tool I told you to make the backup

Rockman
08-12-2016, 04:37 PM
You flash with the same tool I told you to make the backup

I tried but im still seeing a 82C throttle sadly

Compwxr
08-12-2016, 05:05 PM
You need to adjust it via software. Otherwise you may be in legacy mode, I don't change it for safety measures. Only UEFI module is modded. If anything crashes you can always run the laptop in legacy mode to reflash stock.

UPDATE:
Just rechecked all the values and I confirm it is unlocked, try nvidia inspector or such to change the throttle temp and don't go crazy with it!

Rockman
08-12-2016, 05:28 PM
You need to adjust it via software. Otherwise you may be in legacy mode, I don't change it for safety measures. Only UEFI module is modded. If anything crashes you can always run the laptop in legacy mode to reflash stock.

UPDATE:
Just rechecked all the values and I confirm it is unlocked, try nvidia inspector or such to change the throttle temp and don't go crazy with it!

ok ill try it out, thank you

Rockman
08-12-2016, 05:34 PM
You need to adjust it via software. Otherwise you may be in legacy mode, I don't change it for safety measures. Only UEFI module is modded. If anything crashes you can always run the laptop in legacy mode to reflash stock.

UPDATE:
Just rechecked all the values and I confirm it is unlocked, try nvidia inspector or such to change the throttle temp and don't go crazy with it!

Ok, by now I must be doing something wrong here is what I did

Currently have the T06 Bios installed
Downloaded the .rom you provided me with
Opened the .rom through the AFUWINGUI
Selected "Program all blocks" and flashed it through AFUWINGUI

I see the temp on Nvidia Inspector but it wont allow me to change it higher or lower than 82C and keeps resetting each time i click "apply clocks & voltages"

Compwxr
08-12-2016, 05:37 PM
Check one thing, can you go higher than 135mhz in core slider?

Rockman
08-12-2016, 05:43 PM
Check one thing, can you go higher than 135mhz in core slider?

http://imgur.com/a/BWX7U This is all i see, wouldnt know what to adjust, sorry for taking your time..

also, for some reason AFUWINGUI recognizes my pc as windows 8 when its windows 10, not sure if thats a problem too

Compwxr
08-13-2016, 12:13 AM
Are you running UEFI Bios or legacy mode? The win ver in afuwin it's not the problem, well make a new backup and send it, so I can check if the settings are unlocked there and I'll make an exception and unlock legacy too as last resort.

Rockman
08-13-2016, 05:48 AM
Honestly, i wouldn't know where to even check for that.

Compwxr
08-13-2016, 01:27 PM
In Bios, well I suppose I need to say that if you don't know what you are doing, you might leave it stock. I invest my time in this mods but I also don't want to take any sort of responsability if anything goes wrong for mishandling things you should not have in the first place. This kind of mods are dangerous and can irreversably damage you laptop and voids the warranty as you apply them. So I would advise you to read more, learn what's the difference between UEFI and Legacy modes "google's a great friend". And then we can speak again and I'lll advise you further.

Rockman
08-13-2016, 02:40 PM
In Bios, well I suppose I need to say that if you don't know what you are doing, you might leave it stock. I invest my time in this mods but I also don't want to take any sort of responsability if anything goes wrong for mishandling things you should not have in the first place. This kind of mods are dangerous and can irreversably damage you laptop and voids the warranty as you apply them. So I would advise you to read more, learn what's the difference between UEFI and Legacy modes "google's a great friend". And then we can speak again and I'lll advise you further.

Albeit still new to the software side of things I was able to finally get it to work and can confirm an unlocked temp setting. 100% functional, thank you so much for your time and patience!

Compwxr
08-17-2016, 11:04 AM
Glad to hear that it worked and sincerely hope you didn't took my last message the wrong way. Enjoy the unlocked vBios :)

xI L3WY Ix
08-28-2016, 02:01 PM
Glad to hear that it worked and sincerely hope you didn't took my last message the wrong way. Enjoy the unlocked vBios :)

Hi! Can you help me as well? I already sent you a PM.

mRk303
09-09-2016, 06:08 AM
hello

Is this bios compatible with g771jw or do you know any soliutions for my model? Nvidia inspector shows the range of temperatures between 55-83 but problem still exist.

Can you help me in some way?

Sorry for my english ;)
Greetings from Poland

Corvin
09-09-2016, 09:31 AM
Seems our guru left the topic. I`ve sent a PM also...
Hey, Compwxr, are you OK? :confused:

Compwxr
09-10-2016, 10:56 AM
Yep and thanks for asking. I'm just a bit busy atm but checking PM's often. @mRk303 This mod is theoretically able to unlock any maxwell vCard on Asus models and others. Only tested with 960m models though.
Guys I would like as compensation for my work that you post here results of the mod, to keep this thread alive for new owners. Thank you all

ZIXEL
09-13-2016, 02:57 PM
Guys someone can upload here the firestrike score , or the furmark score , pls

Breoreus
09-18-2016, 06:51 AM
Hi guys, could someone pm me with instructions on how to unlock temperature limit for my g551jw?

Dazee
09-19-2016, 03:41 PM
Hi guys, owne of N551JW here... From about 3 days my 960M stutters A LOT after about 20 seconds in game (dropping FPS from 60 to about 30-40 with crazy stuttering), i've tried everything and now i'm 90% sure that it is thermal throttling, perhaps i run the latest BIOS from ASUS website and i can't install the ""fixed"" one, what can i do??

n.wing
09-20-2016, 08:57 PM
Just saw this BIOS mod earlier today, right before trying to drill holes on the bottom part of my laptop... I guess this will solve things in a more civilised way. I hope Compwxr will find time to respond to my PMs sooner, I am so eager to try this out!

h3ll4ngel
09-22-2016, 02:39 AM
I just do everything follow the instructions(unlock VBIOS) , but nothing changes in the number when I check by GPU-Z. PLease help me

AsSaSsInJ0HN
09-24-2016, 05:38 PM
Yo guys, i will help you all.. since Compwxr is away for a while it seems. Post what problems you have.

AsSaSsInJ0HN
09-24-2016, 05:57 PM
Here is the moded File Bios :
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AnN2oPJI0VmqkU9aBOyWQeNzvSSs

Breoreus
09-25-2016, 04:15 AM
Here is the moded File Bios :
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AnN2oPJI0VmqkU9aBOyWQeNzvSSs

Is this bios with unlocked temperature limit or original t06 bios?

n.wing
09-25-2016, 12:54 PM
This seems to be the original T06 beta bios.

I'd like to ask if anyone except Compwxr knows how to mod the BIOS .rom file to remove those gpu temperature limits?

Compwxr
09-26-2016, 01:28 AM
Thanks @AsSaSsInJ0HN for replying for help, indeed I'm a bit busy. I'll attend to all PM's now.

Compwxr
09-26-2016, 01:54 AM
Ok guys, check your PM's, @Breoreus my sincere apologies, I didn't save the last Bios properly, so It was just stock. This time you have it unlocked for sure. Guys, report if the core slider is unlocked too. As I've removed the 135+ Mhz limit. Again, be aware that this mod only applies to UEFI mode, not Legacy/CSM. I only mod the UEFI modules. So in order to use it be sure you're using UEFI before you blame me ;P
As always, report your findings and how it runs on your laptops. I'm modding different vBios versions, since it changes with the latest Bios available from Asus. So it might perform different from one to another.
Also I might say that this mod works for other laptops with Maxwell vCards, still not 100% sure since I've only modded G551JW, N551JW and G501 - GTX 960m 2/4 versions.

Compwxr
09-26-2016, 01:59 AM
Also, Always! keep an eye on temps, and don't go crazy with them. Bricked laptops are not my fault, use with responsability... Also change the priority with third party apps from power limit to temp limit. I would advise not going much further than 84ºc.

Compwxr
09-26-2016, 02:05 AM
For those wondering ->

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n.wing
09-26-2016, 07:36 AM
Ok guys, check your PM's, @Breoreus my sincere apologies, I didn't save the last Bios properly, so It was just stock. This time you have it unlocked for sure. Guys, report if the core slider is unlocked too. As I've removed the 135+ Mhz limit. Again, be aware that this mod only applies to UEFI mode, not Legacy/CSM. I only mod the UEFI modules. So in order to use it be sure you're using UEFI before you blame me ;P
As always, report your findings and how it runs on your laptops. I'm modding different vBios versions, since it changes with the latest Bios available from Asus. So it might perform different from one to another.
Also I might say that this mod works for other laptops with Maxwell vCards, still not 100% sure since I've only modded G551JW, N551JW and G501 - GTX 960m 2/4 versions.
I just flashed the mod, but the core slider is not unlocked for me, still stays at +135 MHz, everything else is fine though.

UPDATE: After testing for a while, every time I try to overclock Memory or set any value other than default, the system freezes or gets a BSOD.

Compwxr
09-26-2016, 11:50 AM
Well, that's normal, you can go much further than 150 Mhz+ Mem clock with the latest vBios, however if you flash the .202 version you can go up too 3000-3200 Mhz. Nvidia introduced a limit in newer vBios. Regarding the Core clock seems like I need to unlock it in a different way. Anyway temp should be working fine

n.wing
09-26-2016, 12:20 PM
Are you suggesting that I flash the latest BIOS version and try again with the mod?

Compwxr
09-27-2016, 12:43 AM
Sorry, my mistake. You can't go higher than 2650Mhz on memory clock with newer Bios versions. Only the older ones that sport a older vBios can achieve higher clocks.