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QC_AGENT
12-19-2015, 07:13 PM
I was happy so far with my G751JY and windows 10 until the november cumulative update windows 10 build 1151. Half of the windows functions are now unresponsive. Including the WiFi that is disconnecting randomly. I can't even uninstall any program since the function is freezing. I will have to wipe out and clean install a new windows.

My former G73JW (owned by my sister) just crashed last week on a windows 10 update and is so far totally destroyed. when she called, she was desesperate with her Master degrees documents that she had to turn in the next day. I showed up with the Windows 10 USB stick, Thinking it was a simple repair... I could not reinitiate or repair anything. I had to format the drive twice before getting the windows 10 clean install to work and it went down again after the built 1151 update. (fortunately I could save her documents using MS DOS prior to wipe everything). The G73 is still down, I will try another windows install but it will indeed fail again.

So about my question... Am I alone of experience issues with the Build 1151?

joro_abv
12-19-2015, 07:30 PM
"Format the drive twice" doesn't sound as an OS problem. More of a hardware problem. My 1151 runs fine, btw.

NeoBeum
12-19-2015, 08:00 PM
Mine's not a complete 1511 build, because I've stripped the bits off that I don't want, but VPN is currently having some issues with my firewall because I'm too lazy to do stuff and just set it on Auto...

Put Windows 7 or 8.1 back on to the 73.. and tell Windows you don't want to update... ever.
If you crash on the 73, and it annoys you that much... you can go to 7... or disable the Wireless everytime you log off (if you/Windows automatically installed drivers for the wireless)

That's what I did to my G73

aeolisio
12-19-2015, 08:09 PM
I was happy so far with my G751JY and windows 10 until the november cumulative update windows 10 build 1151. Half of the windows functions are now unresponsive. Including the WiFi that is disconnecting randomly. I can't even uninstall any program since the function is freezing. I will have to wipe out and clean install a new windows.

My former G73JW (owned by my sister) just crashed last week on a windows 10 update and is so far totally destroyed. when she called, she was desesperate with her Master degrees documents that she had to turn in the next day. I showed up with the Windows 10 USB stick, Thinking it was a simple repair... I could not reinitiate or repair anything. I had to format the drive twice before getting the windows 10 clean install to work and it went down again after the built 1151 update. (fortunately I could save her documents using MS DOS prior to wipe everything). The G73 is still down, I will try another windows install but it will indeed fail again.

So about my question... Am I alone of experience issues with the Build 1151?

First off wrong forum put this into the g73 forums.
https://rog.asus.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?114-Older-G-Series-Notebooks

Secondly 1151 runs fine on multiple g751s at the office. The format twice should have been your warning sign of hardware failure.

Clintlgm
12-20-2015, 08:34 PM
I agree also it probably a hardware issue, however you keep insisting on running window 10 on this older model, it obviously isn't going to work for you so go back to win 7 for which the hardware was designed for. If you still have issues run diagnosis tools on the hard drive insure its not crashing. You would find these tool on the manufactures website ie WD western digital web site or which ever brand hard drive in in there.

QC_AGENT
12-21-2015, 12:39 AM
Thanks you all for the ideas. It does help to have some support :-). I will work on it during the holidays and let you know my findings.

Julskey
12-21-2015, 11:15 AM
G73 is is not supported for windows 10 upgrade according to asus website. My old G74sx is not supported neither so I'm sticking with Win7.

Gps3dx
12-21-2015, 05:32 PM
G73 is is not supported for windows 10 upgrade according to asus website. My old G74sx is not supported neither so I'm sticking with Win7.
"not supported" doesn't means that win10 won't work with fully equipped drivers ( i.e that nothing will be missing in the device manager )
it's just that ASUS - won't get any complains about win10 for that model, nor plan to release any own drivers for win10 for that model.

let me say - that I'd upgrade many older laptops then your G73 ( some even had Pentium Core 1st generation! ).
At first not all the drivers where there... but installing origional manufacturer ( like realtek for audio, intel INF for chipset etc... ) driver's on these win10 machines - worked without any problem.
even so, win10 comes with larger pool of drivers then win8 or 7.... - so statistically speaking - win10 have more chance of working on old laptops then win7 have.

Julskey
12-22-2015, 02:04 AM
And then there's that. So maybe my g74sx can have win10 after all. Thanks.

QC_AGENT
01-02-2016, 03:29 PM
Since I started this thread, and stole some of your time, I owe you my findings. So, I never could get Windows 10 running stable on the G73 anymore, even though it was doing fine from August to December. Although as per observed by Clint, it is looking like an hardware issue, Windows Seven is actually running stable. So NeoBeum story is right so far.

under Windows Seven, I runned some very serious load test on the machine, burning the CPU at 95 C for 30 minutes, hitted the GPU hard, gone through MEMCHECK, DISKCHECK, multiple data transferts, working and gaming load. It is doing fine.

Under Windows 10, it is randomly freezing, sometinmes it would not even boot

Finally: I ressetted it under factory default, ran 300 windows 7 updates and gave it back to my sister. I might try Windows 10 update in a couple of months, hoping that they resolve some issues from that time.

As per my G751 (the reason of this thread being here), after 4 weeks of jammed updates and jammed systems menues, it just opened up this morning with my McAffee AntiVirus forcing the updates. I suspect McAffe to be the Root of the update issues, combined with a hidden malware slowing down the overall system. I will format and clean install.

Clintlgm
01-02-2016, 08:58 PM
Yes well we knew from the get go that Asus is not going to support window 10 on anything G notebooks below G750. So if it ran good for awhile was that in a Upgraded state? and you are having failures with a clean install of Win 10. Were really on our own trying to get Win 10 to run on these older notebooks!!
I personally have no intention of upgrading my G75VW to 10. I have 10 on one of my desktops and will put it on a 2nd desktop on 10 probably Sunday. My wife's All in one touch screen and my G75 will stay with Win 8.1 pro There both over 3 years old I see no advantages what so ever to upgrade them to 10

QC_AGENT
01-04-2016, 02:28 PM
let me say - that I'd upgrade many older laptops then your G73 ( some even had Pentium Core 1st generation! ).
At first not all the drivers where there... but installing origional manufacturer ( like realtek for audio, intel INF for chipset etc... ) driver's on these win10 machines - worked without any problem.
even so, win10 comes with larger pool of drivers then win8 or 7.... - so statistically speaking - win10 have more chance of working on old laptops then win7 have.

Really? I'm surprised of that because I can't install Win 8/10 on my PC. The installation package tell me at first that my CPU is too old and not supported due to the lacks of added security instruction sets. I am running an AMD 64 FX-60 dual core socket 939. It was the most powerful CPU in 2006 ;-). Maybe INTEL chips are better supported than AMD.

Gps3dx
01-04-2016, 04:53 PM
Really? I'm surprised of that because I can't install Win 8/10 on my PC. The installation package tell me at first that my CPU is too old and not supported due to the lacks of added security instruction sets. I am running an AMD 64 FX-60 dual core socket 939. It was the most powerful CPU in 2006 ;-). Maybe INTEL chips are better supported than AMD.
well I admit that all these laptops I was talking about runs intel chipset and CPU.

about these "security instruction sets" it is not a MUST have feature AFAIK... but it a good thing to have against some type of virus/malware that manipulate code in the most basic level there is i.e binary and/or assembly.
if it is indeed not a MUST HAVE requirement, then you can mod your windows installation disk to contain the specific drivers for your AMD machine.
you can learn HERE more about integrating drivers into that disk (http://www.win-raid.com/t750f25-Guide-Integration-of-drivers-into-a-Win-image.html), and there are many free editing apps for that like nLite (http://www.nliteos.com/nlite.html), WinReducer (http://www.howtogeek.com/169522/customize-your-windows-8-installation-disc-and-slipstream-updates-with-winreducer/) etc...
A VERY good forum to follow up about windows official + modd installation disks, tools, tweaks etc... is forums.mydigitallife.info (http://forums.mydigitallife.info/forums/3-Computing-Life).
Sometimes they know things better then MS representatives.

last but not least, many linux distros has backward compatibility with old PCs.... and they can usually "revive" and old piece-of-metal-of-a-PC in terms of performance. (many of them are much lite in RAM & CPU demands)

JustinThyme
01-04-2016, 09:16 PM
G73 is is not supported for windows 10 upgrade according to asus website. My old G74sx is not supported neither so I'm sticking with Win7.

FWIW I have a G74sx upgraded to Win10 Pro that works very well, better than it ever did on Win7 pro.

Clintlgm
01-05-2016, 12:27 AM
I didn't realize any of the G series notebooks had AMD CPU, that's a whole separate issue!
Also others have succeeded installing win 10 on 74's look them up in the older G Series forum. http://rog.asus.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?114-Older-G-Series-Notebooks

borgwarrior
01-08-2016, 01:47 PM
@op: I still have my 73JW, had the same freezing issues. THIS solved the problem once and for all: https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?8943-G73-Freezing-Crashing-Issue-WORKAROUND-FOUND&highlight=throttlestop


anyways, W10 x64 works without any issues on the 73 at all. With latest drivers, and almost no Asus bloatware. (Fresh install of course)
If needed, I can make a screeshot of the drivers installed

diogogmaio
01-08-2016, 02:26 PM
Guys...i will not read this all thing...
I had this problems with windows 10 version u speak...
I simply force a reinstall on the bios (211 if I am not mistaken)...
Just that...
No more freezes since almost 3 months...
Didin't do anything else.