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ukiyapaul
12-28-2015, 01:08 PM
Im confused, does the Asus G752VT support NVME or not?

I read that it only supports ACHI but Asus website, other online stores including the one I bought my G752VT from says it supports NVME. Can someone help clear things up?

Gps3dx
12-28-2015, 07:50 PM
well then...
To easily answer your question, one can take out his/her sleeve "UEFI BIOS Updater" (UBU)" (http://www.win-raid.com/t154f16-Tool-Guide-News-quot-UEFI-BIOS-Updater-quot-UBU.html), download from asus support site the bios 205, and run it through the app...
Then, one might reveals that this bios has in it, no other then NVMe driver.
Here is your proof:
54406

Last but not least, that same wonderful forum dedicated to BIOS's modding, has a thread named "[Guide] How to get full NVMe support for Intel Chipset systems from 6-Series up" (http://www.win-raid.com/t871f16-Guide-How-to-get-full-NVMe-support-for-Intel-Chipset-systems-from-Series-up.html).
Now... theoretically speaking...if your rog laptop missing NVMe, but you have all the required HW ( I still haven't figure this out ) - you can mod your BIOS to allow your laptop to work with NVMe.

To whoever is new to this... don't panic... for me 2, this tech is new news
nontheless, that guide I mentioned, looks promising - for example for the G751 :-)
now... don't get too happy about that... cuz NVMe supported SSDs are just VERY EXPENSIVE. ( E.I Samsung 950 PRO )

EDIT:
More info...
Asus official online store write about the G752VT (http://store.asus.com/us/item/201510AM090006012/A38824) spec that it features the "Mobile Intel CM236 Express Chipset".
If you open Intel site, and look for that chipset's features, and I quote: (http://www.intel.eu/content/www/eu/en/chipsets/performance-chipsets/cm236-chipset-brief.html)
"...the latest Intel® Rapid Storage Technology 14 with Intel® CM236Chipset now supports NVMe PCIe x4 Solid State Drives". (http://www.intel.eu/content/www/eu/en/chipsets/performance-chipsets/cm236-chipset-brief.html)

ukiyapaul
12-28-2015, 10:24 PM
well then...
To easily answer your question, one can take out his/her sleeve "UEFI BIOS Updater" (UBU)" (http://www.win-raid.com/t154f16-Tool-Guide-News-quot-UEFI-BIOS-Updater-quot-UBU.html), download from asus support site the bios 205, and run it through the app...
Then, one might reveals that this bios has in it, no other then NVMe driver.
Here is your proof:
54406

Last but not least, that same wonderful forum dedicated to BIOS's modding, has a thread named "[Guide] How to get full NVMe support for Intel Chipset systems from 6-Series up" (http://www.win-raid.com/t871f16-Guide-How-to-get-full-NVMe-support-for-Intel-Chipset-systems-from-Series-up.html).
Now... theoretically speaking...if your rog laptop missing NVMe, but you have all the required HW ( I still haven't figure this out ) - you can mod your BIOS to allow your laptop to work with NVMe.

To whoever is new to this... don't panic... for me 2, this tech is new news
nontheless, that guide I mentioned, looks promising - for example for the G751 :-)
now... don't get too happy about that... cuz NVMe supported SSDs are just VERY EXPENSIVE. ( E.I Samsung 950 PRO )

EDIT:
More info...
Asus official online store write about the G752VT (http://store.asus.com/us/item/201510AM090006012/A38824) spec that it features the "Mobile Intel CM236 Express Chipset".
If you open Intel site, and look for that chipset's features, and I quote: (http://www.intel.eu/content/www/eu/en/chipsets/performance-chipsets/cm236-chipset-brief.html)
"...the latest Intel® Rapid Storage Technology 14 with Intel® CM236Chipset now supports NVMe PCIe x4 Solid State Drives". (http://www.intel.eu/content/www/eu/en/chipsets/performance-chipsets/cm236-chipset-brief.html)

I see that everywhere Asus saying it supports NVME, did asus fked up something and that is why people cant get it to work properly? In any case I will soon see for myself as my brother bought one 256gb Samsung 950 Pro for me to try and it should arrive sometime in the middle of January 2016.

Maybe by that time Asus will have releaswed updated bios with lots of fixes as many people here have been asking Asus to do from the start. Some driver updates too as I have some minor issues with the drivers I think.

Gps3dx
12-28-2015, 11:11 PM
I see that everywhere Asus saying it supports NVME, did asus fked up something and that is why people cant get it to work properly?
NVMe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express) was engineered specifically for SSDs ( "attached through the PCI Express (PCIe) bus" ) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express), As AHCI is an old protocol that doesn't target SSDs specifically "in mind" & operations.
As AHCI requires drivers during windows installation (http://www.win-raid.com/t29f25-Recommended-AHCI-RAID-and-NVMe-Drivers.html) and normal operation, also NMVe requires drivers as well.
AFAIK, Windows 8.1/10 does come with NVMe driver, BUT after you install windows IT IS HIGHLY ADVISABLE TO INSTALL INTEL'S NVMe DRIVER ( see here how ) (http://www.win-raid.com/t750f25-Guide-Integration-of-drivers-into-a-Win-image.html).

I suggest you enter the links I left here, and read more about it on www.win-raid.com (http://www.win-raid.com)

ukiyapaul
12-29-2015, 02:06 PM
NVMe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express) was engineered specifically for SSDs ( "attached through the PCI Express (PCIe) bus" ) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express), As AHCI is an old protocol that doesn't target SSDs specifically "in mind" & operations.
As AHCI requires drivers during windows installation (http://www.win-raid.com/t29f25-Recommended-AHCI-RAID-and-NVMe-Drivers.html) and normal operation, also NMVe requires drivers as well.
AFAIK, Windows 8.1/10 does come with NVMe driver, BUT after you install windows IT IS HIGHLY ADVISABLE TO INSTALL INTEL'S NVMe DRIVER ( see here how ) (http://www.win-raid.com/t750f25-Guide-Integration-of-drivers-into-a-Win-image.html).

I suggest you enter the links I left here, and read more about it on www.win-raid.com (http://www.win-raid.com)

Bookmarked, will check them out when my 256GB 950 Pro arrives.

Gps3dx
12-29-2015, 02:30 PM
Bookmarked, will check them out when my 256GB 950 Pro arrives.
In this case - install Samsungs NMVe Driver.... but you can still try Intel's... and compare between them...
What is sure is that MS NMVe drivers, is crap in terms of benchmarks.

StanDiego
12-31-2015, 06:01 AM
I followed your links and see the process for integrating Intel's RAID drivers into the ISO but I see nothing related to NVME. I have a G752VT booting off of a Samsung 950 Pro but, like everyone else, can't get the NVME driver to load nor Samsung Magician to recognize the drive. I installed Win 10 by loading the latest Intel RAID drivers during install but can't take advantage of the enhanced performance using NVME drivers. What am I missing? I don't understand how your referenced link enables the NVME drivers.

Gps3dx
12-31-2015, 11:39 AM
Same forum - just different sticky - contains NMVe drivers from intel that should allows you to install windows on an NVMe supported devices ( laptop+bios+ssd that supports NVMe )
http://www.win-raid.com/t29f25-Recommended-AHCI-RAID-and-NVMe-Drivers.html

Accourding to this guide from intel (http://download.intel.com/support/ssdc/hpssd/sb/nvme_boot_guide_332098001us.pdf) some bioses comes with NVMe as default, but some need to be configured.
although this guide is for stationary PC's mobo, try to see if you got some bios options like that... such as making sure that CSM is DISABLED.
( don't forget to install windows using UEFI boot method - see the sticky thread about it in our sub-forum, link in my sig ).

ukiyapaul
12-31-2015, 12:26 PM
Same forum - just different sticky - contains NMVe drivers from intel that should allows you to install windows on an NVMe supported devices ( laptop+bios+ssd that supports NVMe )
http://www.win-raid.com/t29f25-Recommended-AHCI-RAID-and-NVMe-Drivers.html

Accourding to this guide from intel (http://download.intel.com/support/ssdc/hpssd/sb/nvme_boot_guide_332098001us.pdf) some bioses comes with NVMe as default, but some need to be configured.
although this guide is for stationary PC's mobo, try to see if you got some bios options like that... such as making sure that CSM is DISABLED.
( don't forget to install windows using UEFI boot method - see the sticky thread about it in our sub-forum, link in my sig ).

I reinstalled my Windows 10 using UEFI since I had difficulty with one of my online games and doing a fresh install fixed it. Even if I get my Samsung 950 Pro working, wiill it be fully compatible? I heared people got it working with some features not enabled which is supposed to help the device last longer.