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wolfrose
01-13-2016, 01:43 PM
Hello,


I've been looking for a gaming laptop, as it would be so cool to game when I travel to Europe or maybe USA.

Also, I've been thinking about MSI gaming laptops; and there are really very good deals on Amazon right now.

Like;

GE72 Core i7-5700HQ,GTX970M,16GB DDR3L,Windows 10
$1,299.00

MSI GT72 Dominator-019 Gaming Laptop + Hermes Bundle, with;
Display: 17.3" Full HD, Anti-Glare IPS Wide View Angle
Processor: Intel Core i7-6820HK 2.7GHz (Skylake)
Memory: 16GB DDR4 2133MHz
Storage: 1TB (7200RPM)
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M 3GB GDDR5
for $1599

>> Very good specs :cool:



MSI Computer G Series GE72 Apache Pro-001 17.3" Laptop
• Intel Core i7-6700HQ, CPU Speed 2.6 GHz with Turbo Boost upto 3.5 Ghz.
• 16GB DDR4 memory 1 TB HDD 128 GB SSD.
• 1024 GB 7200 rpm Hard Drive, 128 GB, M.2 SATA Solid-State Drive.
• 17.3 Inch Full HD eDP Non Reflection.
• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M Graphics, Windows 10 Home, Video Memory 3G GDDR5.
for $1499



>>>>>> THESE MSI deals are WOW :o


And, I'm thinking of two cool ASUS versions.

ASUS ROG G751JY-WH71(WX) 17-Inch Gaming Laptop, Nvidia GeForce GTX 980M 4GB DDR5 VRAM, 16 GB RAM, 128 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD (Win 10 Version) for $1568


ASUS ROG G752VT-DH72 17 Inch Gaming Laptop, Discrete GPU Nvidia GeForce GTX 970M 3GB VRAM, 16GB DDR4, 1TB, 128 PCIe G3 x4 SSD (ROG Copper Titanium) for $1,649.00



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Now I need to know whether to go for MSI or ASUS, and which one?
It's not very difficult issue, I just have to choose any laptop and order it.

I'm also, want to discuss opinions and recommendations. And want to see if any of ASUS ROG fans would recommend me to go for MSI laptops :)


So, welcome to discussion and ideas.

toronto699
01-14-2016, 02:16 AM
Asus G752
but a better Graphic Card Would be better , like the 980m $200 more I think

Sniffy
01-14-2016, 02:45 AM
The fastest gaming laptop out of those listed is the one with the 980M. CPU is far less important.

Jlieu
01-14-2016, 03:04 AM
Try MSI, Asus Is bugged. I'm going to purchase MSI later. Need to find a New Brand now.

wolfrose
01-14-2016, 04:11 AM
Asus G752

I know it's better, because it has new features. Like; DDR4, PCIe SSD, new look, ... etc.

And also, I think the 980m in the 751 is also very important, because it's faster and has 4GB VRAM. I think CPU performance is not very far, they still i7.




The fastest gaming laptop out of those listed is the one with the 980M. CPU is far less important.

Yes, I agree with you. I have 780 classified in my gaming rig with 3GB VRAM.

I play BF4 most the time. Is 970m powerful enough to play it like on my gaming rig?

I saw benchmarks and reviews of 970m and 980m, and there's of course a difference in the FPS ratio.

So, it still a hard decision :)


Try MSI, Asus Is bugged. I'm going to purchase MSI later. Need to find a New Brand now.

Why? Could you tell me what is you experience with ASUS, and why you think of MSI?

What you think of the dominator I listed above?

Sniffy
01-14-2016, 09:02 AM
The 970M is a great GPU and I'm very happy with mine. But if you wanted the best performance/$, the one with the 980M will give you that. Usually 980M laptops are supposed to be several hundred dollars more expensive. The G751 was the previous model though and is thus discounted.

If you want a Skylake laptop then by all means go for it (I recommend the G752 but I am a little bias in favor of ASUS I guess), but keep in mind that 970M->980M will always show a more tangible difference than Haswell->Skylake does, at least for games.

I have a G751 personally but I've had an MSI laptop in the past. MSI are pretty good tbh but I dislike how flimsy the new chassis' they use feel. The bottom panel of the laptop can be pressed in so far it touches the motherboard. The G751 (and probaby G752) are built like tanks in comparison. They're also usually quieter than MSI's, ASUS have always nailed cooling. But again, I'm probably a little bias. I would suggest watching videos about them and seeing whether the MSIs or ASUS laptops appeal to you (design etc).

If you do go MSI I would recommend the GT72 Dominator laptops. The GE line is thinner and lighter but also the cooling is nowhere near as good as the GT72 or the ASUS G751/752.

dunedune
01-14-2016, 09:06 AM
I highly recommend to buy MSI

Corporal
01-14-2016, 09:21 AM
ASUS ROG G751JY-WH71(WX) > ASUS ROG G752VT-DH72

Bigger battery than G752VT, better GPU, costs less. SSD has better write performance out of the box.

Can't say anything about the MSI, never owned one, but if it's about the same price, always go with GTX 980m insteadof GTX 970m. CPU is not as important for gaming performance.

Vlada011
01-14-2016, 02:09 PM
Asus G752
but a better Graphic Card Would be better , like the 980M $200 more I think

That would be best option.
Best G752 models is G752VY... But he is more expensive, In Serbia he cost 2.300e
I think it's smarter to go on G752 version because ASUS probably made some cooling improvements compare to G751 series.
Compare holes on back side. G752 have much bigger space on back side. That mean lot for laptops.
Gaming laptop can't be thin and closed as others.
If money is problem for G752VY with GTX980M than you say G752VT 1.650$.

GX700 will have probably same performance as desktop PC. :)

JustinThyme
01-14-2016, 02:10 PM
First thing is to figure out your budget. Go for the highest end GPU you can get. Im not a fan of MSI, they are built cheaply and are bulky. They do have the upside that most everything can be upgraded, including the GPU.
Performance wise they are all pretty much apples for apples. Its not the name on the outside as much as the name on the inside. In the end its Intel, AMD, and Nvidia and which solution of those you choose that will dictate performance.

I procrastinated over my latest purchase for months between ASUS, MSI and Dell Alienware. Comparing machines of similar specs. Dell was disqualified for heat issues. Not isolated, pretty much a 100% thing. If you dont want 110F plus on your keyboard pass these over. I looked at an MSI hands on and just couldn't get past the ugliness and cheap casing. Should say Generic on it instead. My mind was made up when I got an email from Costco with the G752VY DH72 for $2K ($1999.99) with a two year factory warranty and free 1 year accidental damage warranty. I had also been looking at the G751JY WX versions as they are the cheapest out of any of them for what you get. I passed this over for a couple of reason, I already have a better G751JY and mostly I wanted to venture into the next generation. The Skylake processors arent really any overall performance improvement, just a few percent BUT when you look at it in performance per watt they are clearly better. The addition of DDR4 which lifts the 32GB limitation (not that its an issue), boosts speeds even more and again lower power consumption. Then there is NVMe support with blazingly fast M2 SSD speeds. Some will argue that its not fully compatible because Samsung software wont work correctly. I get the same performance without it. The 128GB that comes with them though has been shown to be terminally disappointing in speeds. Get at least the 256 or count on buying one afterwards.

There are better deals than whats on amazon, nearly always.

wolfrose
01-15-2016, 06:48 AM
I had also been looking at the G751JY WX versions as they are the cheapest out of any of them for what you get. I passed this over for a couple of reason, I already have a better G751JY and mostly I wanted to venture into the next generation. The addition of DDR4 boosts speeds even more and again lower power consumption. Then there is NVMe support with blazingly fast M2 SSD speeds. Some will argue that its not fully compatible because Samsung software wont work correctly. I get the same performance without it. The 128GB that comes with them though has been shown to be terminally disappointing in speeds. Get at least the 256 or count on buying one afterwards.

There are better deals than whats on amazon, nearly always.

So, you already had G751JY before you look to the hands-on MSI and receiving the e-mail offer of the G752VT?
Then you passed the e-mail offer because you have G751JY which has a 980m, so you know the 970m would different in the performance because you have enough experience, and then the difference is obvious if you purchase the G752. OK!! because it's $1999 and they won't take your G751 as a replacement. So, it's easy choice.

OK, my other concerns about the specs:
1. The PCIe SSD which come with G752 is not fully at the required performance?
2. Do you mean you get the same performance with the original SSD in G751?
3. "Get at least the 256 or count on buying one afterwards.", do you mean to get 256 for G752? why would I do that if the PCIe had shown such problems as you mentioned?
4. Where are the better deals? I saw the deals on newegg, and I think Amazon has very good deals.

Thank you,


Best G752 models is G752VY... But is more expensive, In Serbia cost 2.300e
I think it's smarter to go on G752 version because ASUS probably made some cooling improvements compare to G751 series.
Compare holes on back side. G752 have much bigger space on back side. That mean lot for laptops.
If money is problem for G752VY with GTX980M than you say G752VT 1.650$.

Yes, you provided similar ideas of what I think, the G752VY would be absolutely expensive.
I think the G752 has similar vent space as the G751. So, I think the cooling is not very different. Maybe there "ASUS probably made some cooling improvements".
Your reply is smart, I think now G751 is not so different than G752 except for RAM and SSD improvement.

I think the 980m is bigger ++


ASUS ROG G751JY-WH71(WX) > ASUS ROG G752VT-DH72
Bigger battery than G752VT, better GPU, costs less. SSD has better write performance out of the box.
Can't say anything about the MSI, never owned one, but if it's about the same price, always go with GTX 980m insteadof GTX 970m. CPU is not as important for gaming performance.
Right on !!
I like you recommendation :)


I highly recommend to buy MSI
Why? I like them too. There are very good offers on Amazon.
The GT72 comes with backpack and a game bundle.

Very nice to who really wants the dominator.


The 970M is a great GPU and I'm very happy with mine. But if you wanted the best performance/$, the one with the 980M will give you that. Usually 980M laptops are supposed to be several hundred dollars more expensive. The G751 was the previous model though and is thus discounted.
If you want a Skylake laptop then by all means go for it (I recommend the G752 but I am a little bias in favor of ASUS I guess), but keep in mind that 970M->980M will always show a more tangible difference than Haswell->Skylake does, at least for games.

I have a G751 personally but I've had an MSI laptop in the past. MSI are pretty good tbh but I dislike how flimsy the new chassis' they use feel. The bottom panel of the laptop can be pressed in so far it touches the motherboard. The G751 (and probaby G752) are built like tanks in comparison. They're also usually quieter than MSI's, ASUS have always nailed cooling. But again, I'm probably a little bias. I would suggest watching videos about them and seeing whether the MSIs or ASUS laptops appeal to you (design etc).

If you do go MSI I would recommend the GT72 Dominator laptops. The GE line is thinner and lighter but also the cooling is nowhere near as good as the GT72 or the ASUS G751/752.

Yes, the GT72 has a good price now on Amazon.

I think I'm more attracted to ASUS versions and also still attracted to the GT72, it looks cool with the bottom cooling area.
Also the GE72 has more air space at the bottom than ASUS laptops.

I'm thinking more to the G751 and more attracted to the new cool G752.

So, I guess I need more time to take my final decision.

Regards,

Aldaraad
01-15-2016, 08:56 AM
That would be best option.
Best G752 models is G752VY... But he is more expensive, In Serbia he cost 2.300e

Well, Croatia just received a shipment of the VY serie and ... it costs around 2.400e ->
http://www.arhiteh.hr/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=300_223&products_id=13195

Austria and Germany are in the preorder stage for the 8GB GPU, and the price is ABSURDLY small (2.099e) ->
http://www.syswork.at/sw/index.html?open&mid=Artikel&artid=nb-1785

The latter would be my candidate...

woolfman72
01-15-2016, 08:36 PM
I have been trying to figure out the same exact questions. i currently have a g752VL was not happy with it (returning it tomorrow) . So i got in the mail today a g752VT just to see if there was any difference. My issues are ssd related. But i have also been eyeing the GT72.I will be installing a new SAMSUNG 950 PRO M.2 512GB in the VT version to see if it makes a difference. Its just hard to understand how my almost 4 year old envy will boot up faster than this newer VL using my current samsung ssd (sata )

Julskey
01-16-2016, 01:40 PM
Asus boots slow because it still has bios emulation. I think almost all other laptop brands do not have bios anymore. But i like bios better as you can access bios in case you have been locked out of windows 8 or 10. You need to access windows settings first before yiu can access uefi/bios. Or maybe i just don't know another way to access it?

wolfrose
01-17-2016, 01:06 PM
I have been trying to figure out the same exact questions. i currently have a g752VL was not happy with it (returning it tomorrow) . So i got in the mail today a g752VT just to see if there was any difference. My issues are ssd related. But i have also been eyeing the GT72.I will be installing a new SAMSUNG 950 PRO M.2 512GB in the VT version to see if it makes a difference. Its just hard to understand how my almost 4 year old envy will boot up faster than this newer VL using my current samsung ssd (sata )

So, you want to return the VL and replace it with VT?
Your SSD issues are with the VL? if so why you want to get the VT if it has the same issue?
You are eyeing the GT72, so what you think of this model?


Asus boots slow because it still has bios emulation. I think almost all other laptop brands do not have bios anymore. But i like bios better as you can access bios in case you have been locked out of windows 8 or 10. You need to access windows settings first before yiu can access uefi/bios. Or maybe i just don't know another way to access it?

You mean even the new G752 also has bios feature ?

What brands which don't have bios?

woolfman72
01-17-2016, 04:10 PM
So, you want to return the VL and replace it with VT?
Your SSD issues are with the VL? if so why you want to get the VT if it has the same issue?
You are eyeing the GT72, so what you think of this model?

I returned the VL and got the VT .. it had the ssd already installed. But 128gb is not enough for much of anything . I have 840evo 512gb that i was hoping to put in the VL or VT. But it seemed pretty slow. So I got the samsung 950 pro m.2 . Which seems to have help with making the laptop quicker.

After doing alot of reading on the GT72 i am not quite sold on it. I've read it has heat issues. It also does not have pcie m.2 which would make me have to return the new ssd i just bought.