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Simao
05-22-2016, 10:10 PM
Hi guys. I will buy a new gaming laptop, but i have a few doubts. I hope you can help me.
So, im thinking in a Asus G752vy or a Asus G751Jy.
The both models have 1 Tb HD 7.200 rpm and 256 Gb SSD. Also, they have GTX 980M 4Gb gddr5.

First doubt:
The first doubt is with the ram memory. The G752vy have ddr4 memory, and the G751jy have DDR3L.
Is any difference in the performance for gaming? Wich memory is better?

Second doubt:
This doubt put me thinking a lot. The G752vy have a i7 6700HQ processor (2,6 ghz - 3,5 ghz), and the G751Jy have a i7 4720HQ (2,6 ghz - 3,6 ghz).
Some web sites says that the old cpu is better, because the turbo 3,6 ghz, ... but other sites says that the new cpu, i7 6700hq is better, because is the last generation.
I really dont know. What this processors is better? The bigger clock of the older model means that he is better and faster for gaming?

The final doubt:
The last doubt is with de G-sync. The G752vy says that have G sync, but the G751jy dont says nothing. The G751jy model that i have seen, its with the windows 10.
All G751jy models with the windows 10 have G sync included or have to referer that in the specs? The G sync its important for the performance?

Sorry for the english, and thanks to every one.

Ancients
05-24-2016, 03:39 AM
DDR4 vs DDR3 RAM isn't going to have too much of an impact on gaming or everyday performance. You might see some slightly better performance on things like rendering, but even that will meet a bottleneck because of the mobile CPUs.

The 6700HQ and 4720HQ are really close to one another in terms of performance. The difference is going to be that the 6700HQ is going to be more power efficient, which is good because the G752VY battery is about 3/4 the capacity of the G751JY's battery. I've used both a G751JY and a G752VT and they both have similar battery life. 2-3.5 hours on light browsing with some video watching. You would get maybe 1-1.5 hours of gaming on either.

Both of the laptops have g-sync built in(so long as you are not purchasing the 2014 model of the G751JY).

I will make some other notes. The G752 series has dust-channeling fans which should prevent some dust buildup in the machine, leading to less cleaning being needed and a longer lifespan. The G752VY also has vapor-chamber cooling while the G751JY does not, which will mean better performance while under load. The G751JY might have a higher clock rating, but better cooling could be the thing that makes the difference. Another note is on build quality. I just looked at the G751JY on Amazon and all of the old reviews are gone, which is suspicious. There were many people that were complaining about their G751JYs being faulty in some way, myself included. Mine had a bad fan, and it wasn't a problem that was fixed after sending it in for repairs. I returned it for the G752VT and have been happy with the decision, even with the less powerful graphics card. There is a reason the G751JY costs so much less than the G752VY, and part of it is build quality.

JustinThyme
05-24-2016, 02:10 PM
Valid points but negligible.

The CPU and memory single biggest changes are lower power consumption. You can read a million reviews, they all say something different on performance depending on where the reviewers bias resides but they all conclude the the Skylake platforms lower power consumption. One added plus if you need it for memory intensive applications like video editing or batch processes the skylake can go to 64GB of RAM where the Maxwell is maxed at 32GB. CPU and memory speeds are negligible. 100Mhz give or take on the CPU isnt going to amount to a hill of beans. You are talking about a whopping 2% of the total clocks. Now for memory speed I managed to get the G751 to 2133Mhz and the G752 to 2400Mhz. Benchmarks differences are negligible as the higher the clocks go the latency climbs with it.

Both have G Sync unless the G751 you are looking at is very old stock on the G751.

G752 runs cooler, period no arguments to be made from anyone. Both the lower wattage CPU and the improved cooling system keeps temps even under heavy load well below the G751.

G752 can run two NVMe M2 SSDs in RAID0. G751 only has a single M2 slot and does not conform to the lastest NVMe drives.

Summary.....
The CPU, GPU and RAM are negligible except you can go the 64GB on the G752. The G752 runs cooler, The G752 spanks the G751 on SSD performance.

Simao
05-24-2016, 10:23 PM
Thanks guys for the help. But, im still affraid with cpu.
So, for gaming, the turbo clock of the i7 4720HQ , 3,6 ghz, its is better for play? Bring any benefits, in spite off the turbo of the 3,5 ghz?
Because ive found this.

i7 4720HQ

4 cores: 3.4 GHz
2 cores: 3.5 Ghz
1 core: 3.6 Ghz

i7 6700HQ

4 cores: 3.1 GHz
2 cores: 3.3 Ghz
1 core: 3.5 Ghz

About the GPU, is any difference any gaming performance, a improvement between the 980M 4 Gb, and 980M 8 Gb?

Thanks

kidfromhell
05-25-2016, 02:28 AM
Thanks guys for the help. But, im still affraid with cpu.
So, for gaming, the turbo clock of the i7 4720HQ , 3,6 ghz, its is better for play? Bring any benefits, in spite off the turbo of the 3,5 ghz?
Because ive found this.

i7 4720HQ

4 cores: 3.4 GHz
2 cores: 3.5 Ghz
1 core: 3.6 Ghz

i7 6700HQ

4 cores: 3.1 GHz
2 cores: 3.3 Ghz
1 core: 3.5 Ghz

About the GPU, is any difference any gaming performance, a improvement between the 980M 4 Gb, and 980M 8 Gb?

Thanks

Hey Simao, don't worry about the processor frequencies. Check the below quote from Notebookcheck's G752VY review:


The i7-6700HQ is more than sufficient for modern games.

So don't worry about the processor. It's plenty enough for now. The other key points mentioned above by members are important. So just consider that.

About the VRAM on the GPU, there WON'T be any differences in graphics performance. The 8 GB would prove helpful when you're bumping up the in-game textures to the very max.
Although I have never experienced any VRAM shortages myself, it looks like newer games like Doom takes advantage of it when you want the best textures possible. Except for it, the 4GB performs every bit the same as the 8GB version.

So, all it comes down to the price. If you can afford G752, simply go for it. If not, the G751 is a VERY capable machine as well without all the latest bells and whistles. Unless you're a power user, you won't notice the performance difference at all (CPU, RAM and GPU).

Anthony566
05-25-2016, 01:57 PM
Whilst this has absolutely no impact what so ever on performance IMO I do like the style and finish on the G752 over the G751 ......

I have used both the G752 & G751 and found no real noticeable difference for how I used my G752 .... Both very capable machines..

Simao
05-25-2016, 07:05 PM
Ive found a good G752VY, but he dont have bluray. The G751 that ive seen have. The G752 came with dvd. It is normal the G752VY dont have bluray, or not? Or, that it depends of the laptop version? Is good have bluray?
Now, the fact of have bluray or dvd, is the only thing that are divide me between the two models.
Im sorry, i dont understand much of this things.

toronto699
05-25-2016, 07:10 PM
cheaper G752 model specs don't have bluray , I use the bluray for movies and BluRay Disks from a Sony Beta Camera , I prefer a bluray Drive .

Simao
05-25-2016, 07:28 PM
cheaper G752 model specs don't have bluray , I use the bluray for movies and BluRay Disks from a Sony Beta Camera , I prefer a bluray Drive .

and for gaming, it is important the bluray? There any games that came in bluray disc?
Because, bluray only for see movies inst important for me

kidfromhell
05-25-2016, 08:43 PM
and for gaming, it is important the bluray? There any games that came in bluray disc?
Because, bluray only for see movies inst important for me

No, Simao. None of the PC games come in Blu-ray, period. They come in DVD and also as a Digital distribution via Steam, Origin, UPlay etc. So, if you don't watch movies, you're better off without a Blu-ray.

Also, yes the G752 has different variations around the world. The last 4 digits determine the version that your country is selling. For example, I bought mine in the US and the model is G752VY - DB72. Here the DB72 denotes the version and it came with a Blu-ray drive by default.

In the end, you can always buy an external writer if you need one in the future. For example, have a look at the one below:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-External-Blu-ray-SE-506CB-RSBD/dp/B00JJGFRIQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464208846&sr=8-1&keywords=external+blu+ray+drive

Though it doesn't have any stellar reviews, I just wanted you to show how they look like. The prices range from $35 USD to $100 USD. I use one myself, but it was bought long back before I had the G752.

JustinThyme
05-26-2016, 04:09 AM
The CPU clocks don't amount to a hill of beans. If you are that obsessed get the 6870HK that is unlocked and has been overclocked to 4Ghz fairly easily. Just have to open up the purse strings by another $1000 to get it but you also get the 8GB Vram on the GTX 980m. You must also take into account the different architecture between the G751 HM87 Maxwell chipset and the G752 CM236 chipsets.
One huge difference is the PCIe is now Gen3 with the way the lanes are configured totally changed as well as nearly double the speed. Thunderbolt 2 vs thunderbolt 3, double the speed. Not going to post it all out, research it a bit and you will see all the advantages.
You get what you pay for, want cheap you get cheap. when you start going to the bottom tier you end up with one memory stick in the no serviceable area and lose the ability to run dual channel.
The Bluray is only needed if you watch Blurays or burn them, I do both and use mine. Optical drives for loading todays games is a painful process. If you have a decent internet speed its far faster to DL it than install from discs.

Simao
06-01-2016, 12:34 PM
Somebody can explain to me why some versions of the G752VY ara not available in deutschland? I ve look in many sites, but the model with the CPU i7 6820HK is not be sailing in the stores.
In the asus deutschland web site says that they are available versions with both CPUs, but only the i7 6700hq is on sail.

Gustave
06-01-2016, 05:30 PM
Somebody can explain to me why some versions of the G752VY ara not available in deutschland? I ve look in many sites, but the model with the CPU i7 6820HK is not be sailing in the stores.
In the asus deutschland web site says that they are available versions with both CPUs, but only the i7 6700hq is on sail.

When I searched for the G752VY with the Core i7 6820HK (Netherlands) I couldn't find one either. Eventualy I bought one in the UK (overclockers.co.uk (https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-rog-g752vy-t7049t-17.3-fhd-ips-intel-i7-6820hk-nvidia-gtx980m-4gb-gddr5-gaming-laptop-lt-231-as.html)) [G752VY-T7049T]. The UK keyboard layout does not differ that much from the US International keyboard. I found this notebook: G752VY-GC353T! It has a Core i7 6820HK and I think a QWERZ keyboard. But where you can get your hands on one, I do not know.

Simao
06-02-2016, 05:26 PM
So, ive thinking a lot, and i will for the G752Vy model. Today, ive heard about the new pascal notebook GPU that will be launched in august/september.
Do you think that a laptop with that new GPU will cost around 2000 euros, or will be a really expensive price around 3000-4000? Its better whait for the new laptops?

thanks

JustinThyme
06-02-2016, 05:44 PM
If Ive learned nothing else over the years when it comes to technology if you wait until the next best thing comes out you will be waiting the rest of your life. I was on the fence over buying a second G751JY playing the waiting game for the price to come down, it never happened. So I bough the G752VY when a sale came around that had it priced under the top of the line G751JY.
As for pricing, no one knows for sure but I would imagine it will top the price of current models due to the first major GPU upgrade in a few years. Then add to it that rumor mill on release dates of the pascal has been going on for awhile. The Desktop model is now accepting preorders on some sites. When the mobile version is released is still very much speculation.
Personally Ive decided that what I have now will suffice for mobile applications and do well with most games. My next move is when the XG2 external graphics solution is released I will be buying that and can then upgrade to a desktop GPU and do several more upgrades before the rest of the laptop becomes obsolete.

Simao
06-03-2016, 09:00 PM
Thanks for your help.
I have in mind this two models.

This G751JY
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Asus-G751JY-T7336T-I7-4720HQ-8GB-1TB-256G-SSD-/252387204037?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

And this G752VY
http://notebooklieferant.com/g752vy-gc144d-33619-16gb-512ssd-w10.html

Locking at those specs, what do you think have better performance in gaming?

JustinThyme
06-04-2016, 12:34 AM
Thanks for your help.
I have in mind this two models.

This G751JY
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Asus-G751JY-T7336T-I7-4720HQ-8GB-1TB-256G-SSD-/252387204037?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

And this G752VY
http://notebooklieferant.com/g752vy-gc144d-33619-16gb-512ssd-w10.html

Locking at those specs, what do you think have better performance in gaming?

Looking at specifically those two models Id jump on the G752VY. Throw out the CPU and GPU as the performance of the two are virtually identical.
Better and larger SSD. One has 256 SATA III and the other has 512GB NVMe, twice the ram at a higher speed also.

kidfromhell
06-04-2016, 03:45 PM
Thanks for your help.
I have in mind this two models.

This G751JY
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Asus-G751JY-T7336T-I7-4720HQ-8GB-1TB-256G-SSD-/252387204037?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

And this G752VY
http://notebooklieferant.com/g752vy-gc144d-33619-16gb-512ssd-w10.html

Locking at those specs, what do you think have better performance in gaming?

Woah, 8 gigs of RAM on the 751JY, for close to $2k? Asus must be minting money from those markets. When you have both at the same price, it is 752VY hands down.

Simao
06-04-2016, 04:27 PM
Thank you guys. I will for the G752vy.
In the begining i was afraid because the the processor, but ive maked a research in notebookcheck and found that the new processor with lower turbo clock have better performance than the i7 4720hq.
Also, because of the new ddr4 memory and much importante, design and material, and the newest dust release and vapor chamber (ithink that al models with the gtx 980m have this things).
I thinking in the new model, because my last laptop, the G751JT have sended back because noise/fans problems, and the new one i think is better the quality.

Thanks everybody.

Simao
06-04-2016, 04:28 PM
Woah, 8 gigs of RAM on the 751JY, for close to $2k? Asus must be minting money from those markets. When you have both at the same price, it is 752VY hands down.

But, the performance of the new model is better, right?

kidfromhell
06-04-2016, 06:37 PM
But, the performance of the new model is better, right?

Although the performance increase isn't noticeable for an average user, if you ask me for a YES or a NO then I'd say YES, there's an increase and the notebook will be quite future-proof.

I was shocked to see,

1. Both notebooks were same price (I know that one was from eBay but still that seller must be nuts)
2. 8GB on a notebook for $2k? Seriously? First, I thought it was the VRAM for the 980M then it caught me by surprise. If that's a config ASUS was selling, then that's downright unethical.

Batogun
06-04-2016, 09:39 PM
Currently, Microcenter has the best value for G752VY: $1699 for the RH71 version, while
Asus store has the best value for G751JY: $1729 for the WH71 version and $1479 for VS71.
All 3 have pretty much the same specs except the VS71 does not come with an SSD.
I don't know if either can ship to your country though.
BTW, the WH71 went down to $1499 at the Asus store when the G752 first came out.

kidfromhell
06-05-2016, 03:56 AM
Currently, Microcenter has the best value for G752VY: $1699 for the RH71 version, while
Asus store has the best value for G751JY: $1729 for the WH71 version and $1479 for VS71.
All 3 have pretty much the same specs except the VS71 does not come with an SSD.
I don't know if either can ship to your country though.
BTW, the WH71 went down to $1499 at the Asus store when the G752 first came out.

Yeah, Micro center has the best price for a G752VY but it doesn't ship to most of the Americans here, let alone him ;)