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OtherSyde
01-03-2012, 11:23 PM
How to breathe new life into your G60VX (Or other G-series, if you substitute in your own processor info)

I installed Crysis 2 a while back, and noticed that it ran slowly (20-30fps) and after a few minutes of gameplay, even though the framerate would not drop significantly, it would develop this lag issue where it would play smoothly for a few seconds, then go into Matrix-style slow-motion "bullet-time" for about 2 seconds, then run smooth for about 3-5 seconds, then repeat over and over. Not really a jerky stuttering, just that weird intermittent slowdown.

Then I realized Crysis Warhead was doing it too, and even Left 4 Dead 2 when set at high settings. This never used to be a problem! For awhile, I thought my G60, like the two sh!tty cheap HP DV9000's I'd owned before, had simply overheated itself too many times and was dying on me, and almost swore off nVidia GPU's for good. But after extensive research and a few relatively simple actions, I'm now playing Crysis 2 and Deus Ex: Human Revolution both on mostly high settings with no slowdowns and much better framerates! DX:HR actually plays better than the Crysis titles, which is odd seeing how awesome it looks and how much newer it is.

If you, like me, have a G60VX and want to play the new games, but can't afford to fork out $1,000-1,500 for a new rig right this minute (or you just like your G60), read the following instruction, perform the steps, and rejoice:

[For reference, I have a Best-Buy model G60VX-RBBX05]


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[1]. Remove your back cover. See where the CPU and GPU are? With the long copper heat-sink? On the black plastic back cover, right where that heat sink is, drill many holes with a power drill (REMOVE THE COVER FIRST; obviously don't do this with the cover still on the laptop unless you want to drill holes in your motherboard). See here:

http://imageshack.us/f/256/20111029179.jpg/




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[2]. You know that round fake "vent" thing on the back/bottom of our laptops with the silver ring around it? Drink a Monster Energy and get creative with a soldering iron (or jigsaw if you have one) and melt/cut out that whole black plastic "fake vent" area inside the silver ring, then glue in a piece of black screen for protection (I used a small wire speaker-cover grill from an old 3" box speaker lying around the house). Like this:

http://media.photobucket.com/image/asus%20g60%20heat%20cooling%20mod%20drill/bennyg/28012011.jpg

And the video how-to that I used for guidance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrckIUGBbwE

*While you've got the cover off, of course you'll want to do the classic "blow-out-your-heat-sink/vents" routine, making sure there is no dust buildup in there or on the fan blades. Try compressed air for the vents and Q-Tips for the fan-blades.



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[3]. Buy a massive cooler pad. And I actually mean a brand-name Thermaltake Massive23 LX cooler pad. I have one, and with the above-mentioned cooling mods, even my new CPU at 3.06GHz doesn't ever exceed 49 degrees Celsius (even on extended play sessions of Deus Ex: HR at mostly full settings at native resolution with 16x Antisotropic Filtering and FXAA on high). It runs and stays between 33-59fps. The CPU idles at about 29-34 degrees Celsius. I monitor the temps with both CoreTemp and CPUID/CPU-Z. The giant fan just constantly blows air into all the new ventilation ports on the bottom of the laptop, directly onto the nearly-exposed CPU and GPU. I would hazard a guess of something like 300-500% more fresh airflow than the measly enclosed factory ventilation system and tiny fan could ever offer. Buy the Massive23 LX on Amazon for a paltry 28 bucks here:

http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Massive23-Notebook-Oversized-CLN0015/dp/B003ZUXXWO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325628457&sr=8-1


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[4]. While you're at it, if you can swing $158 for a new processor, the fastest dual-core CPU you can buy for the G60VX (if your mobo can support a quad-core, all the more power to you; mine can't because the mobo in the G60VX-RBBX05 doesn't support them) is the Core2 Extreme at 3.06GHZ, and you can easily overclock it to 3.2GHz (12x multiplier) using ThrottleStop without even increasing the core voltage or having increased heat output. I just bought mine about 2 weeks ago, popped it in, and didn't even have to upgrade the BIOS; it just started right up. Massive performance improvement, and no overheating. The X9100 far outperforms the stock P7350 or P7450; see benchmarks here:

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core2+Extreme+X9100+%40+3 .06GHz

Shirley's CPU (shirleyfu1117 on eBay) is a well-known and reliable seller as well, just google the words "shirley cpu reliable" and you'll find several other forum posts vouching for this guy.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260903510063&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AL%3AOC%3AMOTORS%3A1123

The new CPU bumped my Windows Experience Index from 5.7 to 6.7 in the CPU category, I believe. Quite a jump, on a scale that only goes to 7.9.

[And before anyone points it out: Yes, I know that particular CPU is the C0-Stepping model; you can buy the E0-Stepping model from the same seller for about $188 if you are hell-bent on trying to overclock to like 4GHz or some madness like that]

Make sure and use a good thermal paste; I used Arctic MX-2, also from eBay for $8 (seller called gigworld).

*One more thing; using nVidia System Tools, a good stable overclock speed for your GTX 260M GPU that I've found is 600/900/1350, each one up-clocked by 100MHz from the stock 500/799/1250. This is only a slight bump up, but increases the speed a bit without causing artifacts, glitches, or any random crashes from OC'ing (the Crysis series and DX:HR love to crash if you're overclocked). Coupled with the new CPU, you'll get performance far beyond what a G60 was ever originally built to offer.

You can do all of this in one afternoon (aside from waiting 3 days for the cooling pad and CPU/thermal compound to arrive in the mail of course).



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[5]. Finally, as so many others have done, partition off an 80GB chunk of your hard drive and install a fresh, vanilla copy of Windows 7 Home Premium: A raw install with no bloatware. Use Panda Cloud antivirus (since it uses almost NO processor muscle, offloading all its work to remote cloud-computer clusters instead of eating up all your performance to do it on-board like Norton does). This will be your "Gamer" boot partition. Don't use the internet on this partition at all in order to avoid viruses or adware or any other pesky crap, and don't install ANYTHING except:

-Essential drivers
-Windows Updates
-Steam (or your game sources/servers of choice)
-CPU/GPU monitoring apps
-Overclocking app
-Games

My Gamer partition runs far, far better than my factory load, having no bloatware, no stupid resource-hungry Norton, and no excess processes to eat up memory and processor cycles.

I thought for sure that my tired, overheated old G60VX was twitching in its death throes, but lo and behold, these cooling mods, software mods, and processor upgrade put it right back in the game for another year or two as a solid performer, before I inevitably upgrade to an i7-based model. And all for less than about $200! The G60 series is a hardy one indeed; Two and a half years later, I'm still glad I bought one... By far the best laptop I've owned as of yet (I'll never buy a Hewlett Crappard again; Asus FTW).


Well thanks for reading; I know a lot of this has been stated before, but never in one single consolidated walkthrough; it took me weeks of scouring the internet to compile all this info before proceeding with this big scary modding project, where so many things can go wrong when you combine laptops with power tools, overclocking, and a wide choice of aftermarket CPU upgrades.

I hope this How-To has helped streamline it for anyone else ambitious enough to have a go at it.

Also, most of this (mainly the cooling mod parts and Shirley's CPU upgrade) might apply to G7x and/or G5x series as well, maybe some other models.

Any input/suggestions/feedback is welcome, please point out anything I missed here... I always want to make my system faster!

dstrakele
01-04-2012, 01:07 AM
+1 Nice Job, @OtherSyde Folks are always looking for a comprehensive guide to improve system performance.

OtherSyde
02-05-2012, 08:31 AM
OK, as an update, I got sick of the drilled holes, and took it one step further; should have just done this in the first place, it's more effective and looks better than a bunch of holes drilled in the bottom of your laptop.

So, I went to the home/office section of my local department store and bought a little tiny wastebasket for its mesh (you can get these at most Staples, Wal-Marts, or online for like $3).
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I used a some metal cutters (probably extreme overkill for plastic, yes) to cut out the area of the bottom cover with all the holes in it, and then a dremel (these aren't too expensive nowadays either) to smooth and shape the inner edges. This is not hard; It's honestly the first time I've ever used a dremel, and it was easy.
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And here's a shot of my G60, showing that it exposes the CPU, GPU, and whatever the hell that other heat-sink thing is on the far right to the open air...
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c285/VisionQuest057/G60-Vent-Mod/03-Cutout-In-Place.jpg


Next I used various wire cutters to pare away the top and bottom of the mesh cylinder, then cut it up the side and stretch it out. I laid it out flat and trimmed it to size.
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Finally, I secured the mesh with some Gel Control Loctite Superglue, and let it set.
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And for my finished Vent Mod, You can see that the GPU and CPU are clearly exposed for my laptop cooling pad to blow air on them, while the black mesh protects them from contact with unwanted outside objects, such as in bookbags, etc.

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xeromist
02-06-2012, 06:26 PM
I'll also point out that part of the reason why it may have started to overheat is the paste between the GPU and heat sink may have started to crust up. I repasted my brothers old Alienware and it went from crashing after 30 seconds to working perfectly.

BrodyBoy
02-06-2012, 07:28 PM
I'll also point out that part of the reason why it may have started to overheat is the paste between the GPU and heat sink may have started to crust up. I repasted my brothers old Alienware and it went from crashing after 30 seconds to working perfectly.
"Crust up!" Great description.....:)

You make a good point. Laptops tend to crust up faster than desktops, in my experience. I recently re-pasted the CPU/GPU in a one year old Asus N73, and I was actually pretty shocked at how dry the OEM paste had already become, and this isn't even a gaming machine or one that runs high-demand apps. (I'm surprised I wasn't having overheating issues...)

If a machine is well-maintained so its cooling system can operate as designed, that should be sufficient for the vast majority of users. On the other hand, I do love the creativity of this mod!

OtherSyde
02-11-2012, 01:09 AM
"Crust up!" Great description.....:)

You make a good point. Laptops tend to crust up faster than desktops, in my experience. I recently re-pasted the CPU/GPU in a one year old Asus N73, and I was actually pretty shocked at how dry the OEM paste had already become, and this isn't even a gaming machine or one that runs high-demand apps. (I'm surprised I wasn't having overheating issues...)

If a machine is well-maintained so its cooling system can operate as designed, that should be sufficient for the vast majority of users. On the other hand, I do love the creativity of this mod!

Yeah, I really went overboard for this mod, but I wanted to try and bring my aging two-year old gaming rig back into the game by pushing it to its absolute limits and avoiding heat issues. It's working great so far; I've moved on to some Steam games like XOTIC and Sanctum, both of which I easily max out on settings with no slowdown at all and framerates steadily over 60fps.

Also, I did address the crusty paste issue in my write-up:

"Make sure and use a good thermal paste; I used Arctic MX-2, also from eBay for $8 (seller called gigworld)."

Can't say if it helped significantly or not since I upgraded the CPU at the same time, but that old paste on there was char-broiled from years of high heat and krustier that a yellow cartoon clown, so I imagine replacing it was an important step.

vulturesrow
03-03-2012, 10:24 PM
Great thread. I found this info after doing a search on how to improve the cooling in my G60vx. Can't wait to implement all these upgrades (though the CPU upgrade might have to wait a bit). Thanks for the great information.

grungeboy2
03-08-2012, 05:56 AM
yeah. alot of the g50/51 users have been doing this mod for some time. i used a 3" hole saw, a speaker grill, and some jbweld to do mine.

a repaste job will do you wonders. i used IC Diamond and got phenomenal results out of it.

kiba
07-06-2012, 08:50 PM
holy crap, that looks like fun..... now i want a G60 so i can do this, lolz.

but yeah, im a big fan of repasting, plus the factory paste is not always done right/generously/or with good enough paste. Doing a paste job yourself with some decent thermal paste will provide peace of mind that you did it right, and in my case, for my G73 and G74, reduce temps by ~7-10degreesC.

Zygomorphic
07-31-2012, 01:00 AM
I must say that I am glad that ASUS got the cooling done right on the G53SX. Mine runs very cool ~55 C GPU at load...without a cooler. On the cooler it is not much better, since the air intake is on the top of the notebook--great work ASUS! :)

I must say, @OtherSyde, you did an excellent job on that mod. The thing on the far-right is the GPU, the other ones are CPU (upper) and northbridge (lower). You can tell the GPU by the MXM slot that it plugs into.

Jackmystery
03-16-2013, 03:18 PM
Thanks for guide. I did the wire mesh install on the circle under the fan. Put in the X9100, used the MX-2 like you suggested. Super easy install. Also got an Intel 180GB SSD for my primary. Now I was wondering if the GTX460M can replace the GTW260M? because the graphics card is all that is holding me back now.

indianacarnie
03-16-2013, 07:47 PM
Well done indeed! Will keep this in mind, my G74Sx stays pretty cool for the admittedly "lower key" games I usually play but thats about to change and this just might come in handy for me. Kudos for letting us see what you've done.

yekimttom
07-02-2013, 04:04 AM
I know this is an older thread but I wanted to thank you for using your rig as the Ginny pig. I re-did the heat sink on my GPU ans CPU and dropped my temps buy 20 degrees. I also converted the false vent into a real vent and am running a dual fan cooling pad as well, dropped it another 15 degrees. I can now run Metro Last Light almost maxed out. I am running around 50 FPS. Before I did this I could not run the game at all it would lock up on the load screen because my G60 was running hot none stop. Next thing I am doing is stepping up to a T9900.....Thanks again for the awesome post

Zygomorphic
07-02-2013, 10:22 AM
Welcome to the forums, @yekimttom! Thanks for sharing, and yes, repasting is the real solution to most overheating problems (that, and a thorough cleaning). Let us know how the T9900 upgrade goes. Isn't that the 3.06 GHz Core 2 Duo?

yekimttom
07-07-2013, 04:18 AM
Yes 3.067 to be exact once I get it done I will reply my results on it.

Zygomorphic
07-07-2013, 10:26 AM
Awesome! I'm looking forward to seeing the results, especially with that chip. I knew they existed, but I've been curious about the performance of a laptop chip with a >3 GHz clock speed. :)

Jaketin
08-18-2013, 06:19 PM
Hello, and sorry for an old thread bump.

So I found this post while searching perfomance tips for my G60Vx-JX136V. I actually drilled some holes in the cover (probably will do the same thing as OtherSyde did later with the holes), and bought the Thermaltake Massive cooling pad.
But what I'm wondering, is that how will I remove/change the CPU in my laptop, if I'll get money for one? I can't seem to find any how-to's from YouTube or Google. And how do I know if my mobo can support Quad cores?
Here's my mobo info: Motherboard (http://files.1337upload.net/cpuz.png)
And sorry for the bump again :P.

yekimttom
09-10-2014, 03:46 AM
Jaketin,

To change you CPU take the bottom cover off then remove the 6 screws that hold the cooling tube on. next to the cooling fan there is a little pink plate with a grey screw in it. Turn that screw 1/4 turn to the left then carefully take the cpu out. It may require a little effort to get it out. mine was a little stuburn. Then install your new CPU. MAKE SURE YOUR 1/4 TURN THE SCREW BACK TO THE RIGHT OR YOUR LAPTOP WILL NOT FIRE UP. Also let me know if you find a quad that is PGA pined. All I seem to be able to find is LGA pined quads. Hell I have one even Q9550 would love to try it but pin set up does not match. =( I would upload the picture of it if I was on my other computer where I have the photo of it. If I get the chance in the next few days I will post it.40902

Psyc0
12-22-2014, 02:59 PM
I joined the forum just to bump this old thread ha!

A++ on the thermal paste. I did this about 6 months ago and it sure needed it!

A+ on the final design of the mesh too. I melted holes in mine with a soldering iron and called it a day but this has me inspired to try to spruce it up a bit!

yekimttom
06-07-2015, 09:27 PM
So to keep an old thread rolling, I have completed as much as I can on this laptop. T9900 Cpu cover mods and even jumped it to 8 gigs of ram which I was told by several people could not be done. Ha Ha I laugh at people that tell me I can not do something. Anyways. My next confirmed upgrade is the WD Black II That is the only currently keeping me from a windows rating of over 6.5 I am looking into GPU upgrades now. I don't know how much luck I will have with this part of the upgrade as there is not much out there that can be done. I am currently looking into a few options like maybe an EGPU (external graphics processing unit) What I do know is that most ROGS are what is know as a MXM GPU this means that the GPU is separate from the motherboard and if you can find a newer GPU with the correct pin count and mount then you should be able to upgrade to a newer card. Aside from the Pin count and mount the only other limitation that I can see is dimensions of the card. If anyone has any advice please feel free to share. Oh by the way this 2009 is running faster than most new stuff put out today. My goal is run Witcher 3. Currently runs Witcher 2, Tomb Raider (2014), Metro Last Light, Blackgoldonline, Vindictus (60FPS) and Tera MAXED out with Zero Lag. So yeah Zygomorphic major difference in Performance. See 49697

yekimttom
06-07-2015, 09:35 PM
Oh one last thing, it runs those games without over clocking.