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guille81
01-14-2017, 09:24 AM
Hi there,

I've just installed a Samsung EVO 960 (250GB) PCIe SSD on the M.2 slot of my G771JW and installed Windows 10 on it using a USB Win 10 installation. Up to here, everything fine, the installer detected correctly the SSD, partitioned it and installed Win10 in less than 3 minutes. The problem comes when re-booting: the BIOS (UEFI mode) is unable to detect the SSD.

I've read quite a lot about this issue and tried all possible BIOS configuration but nothing seems to work. The BIOS never detects the SSD and therefore it is unable to boot from it.

Is the G771JW SSD boot compatible? Should I give up with the 960 EVO and try previous Samsung models (950?)? Is there something I'm not taking into account?

Thanks for your help.

guille81
01-15-2017, 07:04 PM
Hi there,

I've just installed a Samsung EVO 960 (250GB) PCIe SSD on the M.2 slot of my G771JW and installed Windows 10 on it using a USB Win 10 installation. Up to here, everything fine, the installer detected correctly the SSD, partitioned it and installed Win10 in less than 3 minutes. The problem comes when re-booting: the BIOS (UEFI mode) is unable to detect the SSD.

I've read quite a lot about this issue and tried all possible BIOS configuration but nothing seems to work. The BIOS never detects the SSD and therefore it is unable to boot from it.

Is the G771JW SSD boot compatible? Should I give up with the 960 EVO and try previous Samsung models (950?)? Is there something I'm not taking into account?

Thanks for your help.

Anyone with the same problem?

redduc900
01-17-2017, 06:05 PM
Is the latest v211 BIOS revision installed?

guille81
01-17-2017, 10:39 PM
Is the latest v211 BIOS revision installed?

Yes it is.

After a lot of Google-ing I've found the problem.

The G771 and G751 BIOS (Up to v211) only support booting from an SSD M.2 AHCI but not from an M.2 NVMe. The 960 EVO is NVMe and that's why the BIOS is not detecting it.

I'll need to use an SM951 which is AHCI, but Samsung no longer sells them and they're out of stock.

redduc900
01-18-2017, 02:30 PM
If you can make do w/ a 128GB drive, Newegg has the SM951 (AHCI) in stock for only $104.22...

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIV00Y52D6042&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBizMKPL-PC-_-pla-_-Solid+State+Disk-_-9SIV00Y52D6042&gclid=CjwKEAiAwfzDBRCRmJe7z_7h8yQSJAC4corOhJcawp_n 9OcFAviQUyo0fCBlOGec7SFGbZd_-haA4xoCSTLw_wcB

Here's a review on it over at Tom's...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-sm951-ssd-128gb-256gb,4119.html#p5

FiXXXer1982
02-15-2017, 03:59 AM
Hi. G771JW perfectly works with NVME SSD.
You can mod your BIOS for support NVME SSD.

I am using this instructions:
http://www.win-raid.com/t871f16-Guide-How-to-get-full-NVMe-support-for-Intel-Chipset-systems-from-Series-up.html

Screenshot from my note:
62532

Link to files on GoogleDrive:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bwq6WBWwM7MAODN6dHhCbTdkMnc?usp=sharing
AfuDos.zip - flash utility
Referense.zip - fss NVME files
AMI Aptio UEFI MMTool v4.50.0.23.rar - BIOS edit
BACKUP.ROM - original BIOS G771JW.211
NEW4.rom - BIOS with NVME Support
Flash.txt - instruction, how to flash mod BIOS

At your own risk :)

harotomi
03-08-2017, 11:42 AM
Hi. G771JW perfectly works with NVME SSD.
You can mod your BIOS for support NVME SSD.

I am using this instructions:
http://www.win-raid.com/t871f16-Guide-How-to-get-full-NVMe-support-for-Intel-Chipset-systems-from-Series-up.html

Screenshot from my note:
62532

Link to files on GoogleDrive:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bwq6WBWwM7MAODN6dHhCbTdkMnc?usp=sharing
AfuDos.zip - flash utility
Referense.zip - fss NVME files
AMI Aptio UEFI MMTool v4.50.0.23.rar - BIOS edit
BACKUP.ROM - original BIOS G771JW.211
NEW4.rom - BIOS with NVME Support
Flash.txt - instruction, how to flash mod BIOS

At your own risk :)


it works very well !! thanks a lot ! :)

FiXXXer1982
03-10-2017, 01:42 AM
Good! :)
Which SSD did you install on the system?
Can you do speedtests of your SSD?

harotomi
03-10-2017, 11:01 PM
Good! :)
Which SSD did you install on the system?
Can you do speedtests of your SSD?

ssd: Samsung PM951 MZVLV256HCHP 256 GB PCI Express Gen3 x4

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FiXXXer1982
03-13-2017, 05:32 PM
63139

My SSD is not fast :)

harotomi
03-13-2017, 06:03 PM
63139

My SSD is not fast :)

not a big different :)

63140

Thelooozzz
03-13-2017, 09:56 PM
I have a Z270E Asus MB with 960 EVO. The Windows 10 installation was not going any further. Direct after 1st reboot the following message was given (message BOOTDEVICE_NOT_FOUND). After many changes in my Uefi settings I gave up.

The last solution came from my friend.
I used a original buyed W10 Education version for the setup. The mediamaker for UEFI usb for this W10 Education version did not have the right drivers inside.
Solution was to download a retail Windows 10 Home edition from a other Microsoft link then the Edu version.
This W10 Home Edition Uefi sticks was the solution and the setup finished fine. After this installation I had to put in the activation Key in windows (EDU key), then a upgrade message appears. Now I have a working Windows 10 Educational version running on NVME standard Microsoft drivers.
After this upgrade I changed the driver for the Samsung NVME driver.

Very strange that the W10 Educational version is not having the right drivers inside. There was a option in the last used iso for Edu version as well, I tryed it but the same message BOOTDEVICE_NOT_FOUND was the result.

NeoBeum
07-31-2017, 10:03 AM
Hi, I've been using a 950 since late 2015, and Windows will screw up every update.
I'm making a more permanent solution for the older ROG models here: https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?94784-G751JY-Windows-Server-2016-All-Drivers-amp-Hardware-Operational-WIP-OEM-Recovery
There's a really quick semi permanent solution and that is to:

Load the secnvme.inf in to the boot.wim Windows Preinstallation Environment.
If you include that to the install media, you'll be able to install to the PCIE NVMe.



Just for info
This is how Windows identifies the ports in WinPE,


\\************************************************ *************************
Intel(R) 8 Series/C220 Series PCI Express Root Port #5 - 8C18

PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C18&SUBSYS_171D1043&REV_D5\3&11583659&0&E4

\_SB.PCI0.RP05
PCIROOT(0)#PCI(1C04)
ACPI(_SB_)#ACPI(PCI0)#ACPI(RP05)

\\************************************************ *************************

\\************************************************ *************************
Samsung NVMe Controller

PCI\VEN_144D&DEV_A802&SUBSYS_A801144D&REV_01\4&17C5C7ED&0&00E4

\_SB.PCI0.RP05.PXSX
PCIROOT(0)#PCI(1C04)#PCI(0000)
ACPI(_SB_)#ACPI(PCI0)#ACPI(RP05)#ACPI(PXSX)
ACPI(_SB_)#ACPI(PCI0)#ACPI(RP05)#ACPI(SSD1)

\\************************************************ *************************

\\************************************************ *************************
Intel(R) 8 Series Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller

PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C03&SUBSYS_171D1043&REV_05\3&11583659&0&FA

\_SB.PCI0.SAT0
PCIROOT(0)#PCI(1F02)
ACPI(_SB_)#ACPI(PCI0)#ACPI(SAT0)

\\************************************************ *************************

Available ports on G751

\_SB.PCI0.RP05 - PCIE NVMe
\_SB.PCI0.SAT0.PRT0 - Primary Bay
\_SB.PCI0.SAT0.PRT2 - Optical
\_SB.PCI0.SAT0.PRT3 - Secondary Bay


Then, in Windows

NVMe Samsung SSD 950 SCSI Disk Device
Disk ID: {499AE275-841C-421F-88A9-F1FFA5664C76}
Type : NVMe
Status : Online
Path : 0
Target : 0
LUN ID : 0
Location Path : PCIROOT(0)#PCI(1C04)#PCI(0000)#NVME(P00T00L00)
Current Read-only State : No
Read-only : No
Boot Disk : No
Pagefile Disk : No
Hibernation File Disk : No
Crashdump Disk : No
Clustered Disk : No

Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info
---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
Volume 0 C NB-OS NTFS Partition 213 GB Healthy
Volume 1 Recovery NTFS Partition 450 MB Healthy Hidden
Volume 2 FAT32 Partition 99 MB Healthy Hidden
Volume 3 F NTFS Partition 503 MB Healthy Hidden

NeoBeum
07-31-2017, 10:09 AM
This is the sort of thing that can happen if Windows is being stupid
http://i.imgur.com/APKM9Bk.jpg
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This is the drive after 3TB of usage 66374

If I do a proper bench, the drive can get to 2000MB / 1300MB

Clintlgm
07-31-2017, 12:21 PM
Hmm mine runs pretty good on the IRST driver
66378

NeoBeum
07-31-2017, 01:56 PM
Hmm mine runs pretty good on the IRST driver
66378

Yeah, those are the numbers I get in a test environment, but I haven't done one in a while. Are they the 14.8 RST drivers? Highest I get is 2200/1400

Have you put a 850 Pro on rapid mode with Crystal Mark? It's kind of funny

Clintlgm
07-31-2017, 03:09 PM
I have no Idea, what ever RST Driver Asus had installed windows with. I have not changed my Original OS other than to add PRO.

I would suggest you use the one in your eSupport folder unless you get better advise from more that one person here in this forum. I haven't looked but if several people are using a newer IRST drive and it works better you could try it.

My reading were with everything running that I use everyday, MS Office 2013 Pro Plus, 8 Gadget Pack with 4 gadgets running, Malwarebytes Pro, Norton Security Premium, Power PDF and others, I guess If I ran AS in safe mode my scores would be quite a bit faster?

I did have a SATA 850 pro in my G75 and played around with rapid mode, its really a false flag doesn't really do much except give you great benchmark scores. With the NVMe 960's and RST drivers we can't access Samsung Magician. So far I haven't missed it at all. Windows 10 handles trim, magician is not really needed for anything. I haven't heard of any Firmware updates that make any noticeable difference.

NeoBeum
08-01-2017, 04:51 AM
I'll grab my main drive and do a screeny for you.. I haven't had a problem with anything, unless I do an update. Windows always manages to change the Intel SATA/AHCI driver for me, even if I say never update hardware. Back in 30mins


edit: by update I mean, 1506 - 1511 - 1607 - 1703

NeoBeum
08-01-2017, 05:31 AM
I did have a SATA 850 pro in my G75 and played around with rapid mode.



Must be the 960s... I can access Samsung Magician with both of my drives, the 850 Pro and 950 Pro

I have the Hitachi's in RAID 0 too. Those aren't in at the moment, as I'm doing that recovery project, so the optical bay is empty right now

66403

It's actually really useful for me, because I do Android projects in VirtualBox, so I am constantly transferring VirtualDrives - I did a cut and paste of a 2GB system image once, going from 850 to RAID and the file disappeared... and I wondered where it went because I didn't see a dialog box... I checked the 850, the file was gone.. and I thought I deleted it. Then I checked my storage... and there it was.

You need to run Windows in to a almost SafeMode - if it blocks the drivers then something probably isn't happening correctly... I don't trust computers anymore.

The reason the 14.x driver is on right now is because of what I told you - the 1703 update - which forced my hand, so I put Windows Server 2016 on to the G751 so I can rebuild something and provision a Custom Windows Image that Microsoft is less likely to change.

Secure Boot is on right now for me - but I turn that off during installation so I can load the secnvme.inf - or in my case it was the 1.0 driver originally - nvme.inf.

The 2.2 driver won't be able to be preloaded - because it's not properly signed. However - the 1.1 driver is - and this is what I'm going to be using for the Recovery Project. Then I just tell windows to load the 2.2 during the other configuration passes.


EDIT: I just realised - this could be the reason why it's broken for you - because the 1.1 you can't use(960), and 2 and 2.2 aren't signed properly for boot critical. Maybe we could get ASUS to tell Samsung to release another driver

NeoBeum
08-01-2017, 05:44 AM
the 850 is in the secondary bay, usually its under my nvme... but I just noticed this66404

I'll also mention this for anyone else just incase they didn't know:
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When Windows does major updates to your machine - during the process - it converts all the drivers in the driverstore to oem#####.inf

This is another way to check to see which drivers have been added - but also which ones have rolled back to something they shouldn't have.

In my case - the 96th driver added was the driver configuration created on the 30/7/2017... which was 2 days ago, when I was swapping drives getting some files off of my old system so I could work on them in the Server 2016 system
66406

This is what it's meant to be...
66407

which changes my stuff back to
; Copyright (c) 2003-09 Intel Corporation
; ************************************************** **************************
; ************************************************** **************************
; ** Filename: iaStorV.INF
; ** Revision: Version 8.6.2.1023
; ** Date: 08/08/2010
; ** Abstract: Windows* 7* INF File for Intel(R) Matrix Storage Manager Driver
; ************************************************** **************************
; ************************************************** **************************
; Copyright (C), Intel Corporation. All rights reserved.
; ************************************************** ********************************************
; ** Filename: iaStorAV.inf
; ** Revision: 12/17/2014,13.2.0.1018
; ** Abstract: Windows* INF File for AHCI Intel(R) Rapid Storage Technology Driver
; ** Installs: RST AHCI RAID Controller Miniport + RST Filter Driver
; ************************************************** ********************************************
When it should be
; Copyright (C), Intel Corporation. All rights reserved.
; ************************************************** ********************************************
; ** Filename: iaAHCIC.inf
; ** Revision: 07/27/2015,14.6.0.1029
; ** Abstract: Windows* INF File for AHCI Intel(R) Rapid Storage Technology Driver
; ** Installs: RST AHCI Controller Miniport
; ************************************************** ********************************************

But I loaded the 14.8 ones for the creators update... I don't know... I give up


(EDIT: I got the numbers wrong - 14.8, not 16... Been loading too many different drivers across multiple platforms... i think the 16's were for Server. 14.8 is the Consumer platform.) probably doesn't help that i dont have my raid drives in right now either

Clintlgm
08-01-2017, 01:48 PM
Sounds like a very good reason to use the original set up, using the IRST Raid driver over the AHCI driver????. I have no problems blocking driver updates I use GPEDIT and have the setting set to not download or install drivers. When I want to install a driver I download them and update them on my own time and preparedness in case something goes wrong.

GPEDIT control was returned to us with the CU Upgrade. If you don't have Pro or Enterprise versions There is a way to turn on GPEDIT in home version goggle it.

NeoBeum
08-02-2017, 11:29 AM
Yeah, you'll be surprised though.
During the major updates, if there are changes, some settings are reset. Setting the radio button to never check for hardware drivers in Advanced System Properties, WSUS/WUSA will still detect something and cache it somewhere.
I use WUSHOWHIDE.cab, with GPEDIT,

gdumanov
01-30-2018, 12:23 PM
Hello
I have the following problem. I bought Transcend 240GB, M.2 2280 SSD, SATA3, TLC but my laptop (G771JW) does not find it. (the disk was checked and worked on another laptop)

What is the problem and how can I fix it?

thanks in advance

Clintlgm
01-30-2018, 07:08 PM
Hello
I have the following problem. I bought Transcend 240GB, M.2 2280 SSD, SATA3, TLC but my laptop (G771JW) does not find it. (the disk was checked and worked on another laptop)

What is the problem and how can I fix it?

thanks in advance

Your notebook is compatible with NVME not SATA M.2 SSD (http://www.tomshardware.com/g00/forum/id-3519533/difference-nvme-ssd-sata-ssd.html?i10c.encReferrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xl LmNvbS8%3D&i10c.ua=1)

chris_tronic
01-31-2018, 09:09 PM
Hello,
I opened up a new thread, how to upgrade the BIOS to NVME Support. Maybe you wanna take a look.
The ASUS G751-JY and other Modells with M.2 Slots are able to work properly after NVME Bios upgrade.
The Notebook gets even faster with the new supported NVME Protocol.

71155

Greetings

gdumanov
02-05-2018, 09:19 AM
Thanks a lot guys

I sold Transcend SSD

Can some more help?
Will this SDD work out without changing the BIOS

MZVLW256HEHP-00000
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/174249/SAMSUNG-MZVLW256HEHP-00000


Best regards

Clintlgm
02-05-2018, 03:49 PM
Thanks a lot guys

I sold Transcend SSD

Can some more help?
Will this SDD work out without changing the BIOS

MZVLW256HEHP-00000
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/174249/SAMSUNG-MZVLW256HEHP-00000


Best regards
Yes, this is the OEM for G752 and other Asus Notebooks.
If you don't want to change BIOS Setting you'll have to tell us what the SATA setting in your BIOS/UEFI is set to now. It will be either RAID or AHCI

RAID you will have to get the RST driver out of your eSupport folder and have it ready to load during clean install.
If AHCI you shouldn't have to do anything but Image old drive and restore to the new drive or just Clone one to the other.
Ensure you boot whatever clone or Image programs recovery thumb drive to UEFI USB.

thunderbolt99
11-04-2018, 09:47 AM
Hi. G771JW perfectly works with NVME SSD.
You can mod your BIOS for support NVME SSD.

I am using this instructions:
http://www.win-raid.com/t871f16-Guide-How-to-get-full-NVMe-support-for-Intel-Chipset-systems-from-Series-up.html

Screenshot from my note:
62532

Link to files on GoogleDrive:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bwq6WBWwM7MAODN6dHhCbTdkMnc?usp=sharing
AfuDos.zip - flash utility
Referense.zip - fss NVME files
AMI Aptio UEFI MMTool v4.50.0.23.rar - BIOS edit
BACKUP.ROM - original BIOS G771JW.211
NEW4.rom - BIOS with NVME Support
Flash.txt - instruction, how to flash mod BIOS

At your own risk :)
Hi FiXXXer1982, Google drive link is dead. Again upload link share please ?

norris0
11-20-2018, 11:34 PM
Hello. I have the asus GL752VW and I have a big request to colleagues on the forum whether it is possible and whether any of you can modify the bios so that the samsung NVMe ssd 960 EVO M.2 disk works on this laptop. Sorry for my English

bigredcat
12-11-2018, 01:34 AM
Hi FiXXXer1982, Google drive link is dead. Again upload link share please ?
Hi THUNDERBOLT99
The solution described by FiXXXer1982 works. My ASUS G771JW now supports booting from NVMe SSD M.2 (KXG50ZNV512G NVMe TOSHIBA 512GB). If you still need, then I can write step-by-step guide for modifying the BIOS for G771JW.

fzxtreme
12-20-2018, 12:18 AM
Hi THUNDERBOLT99
The solution described by FiXXXer1982 works. My ASUS G771JW now supports booting from NVMe SSD M.2 (KXG50ZNV512G NVMe TOSHIBA 512GB). If you still need, then I can write step-by-step guide for modifying the BIOS for G771JW.

Hi bigredcat, I myself also want to modify my BIOS to support NVMe drive in my G771JW. Could you possibly make that write up with the step by step instructions? The more resources the better for a noob like myself. Thanks in advance.

kosi_
12-25-2018, 11:40 PM
Hi bigredcat, I myself also want to modify my BIOS to support NVMe drive in my G771JW. Could you possibly make that write up with the step by step instructions? The more resources the better for a noob like myself. Thanks in advance.

Hi can you help me with this mod? I can' n find instruction for g771jw. PLEASE

kosi_
12-26-2018, 08:38 PM
Hi, can someone help me with modifying the g771jw bios? the link with the files does not work. I tried - I modified the bios using UEFITool from this link
https://www.win-raid.com/t871f50-Guide-How-to-get-full-NVMe-support-for-all-Systems-with-an-AMI-UEFI-BIOS.html
but I can not flash it. Afudos shows that it's too big, and flash from the bios menu that it's too old ...
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