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fuzon1337
01-06-2012, 07:39 PM
Every day the ROG forum grows with new members, and they got either issues with their new notebook, or questions about how to get the best performance off their new beast!


In this thread I will give you some advice about where to start with your notebook.


If you got a new notebook or have an old one that doesn't work properly as you want it to do, the best thing is to make a factory restore.
For that you don't need a recovery cd to do it since there is a hidden partition (as long you haven't deleted that partition) in your notebook with the recovery settings on.

When your booting up your notebook, hit F9 when you see the Asus logo, then you should be able to access the hidden partition and then you can choose between different "modes" how you want to reinstall your notebook.

Choose the option that you prefer your notebook to be installed like then follow the steps from there.

Or you can download the Win 7 file and do a clean install from there:



Windows 7 Home Premium w/SP1 Integrated ISO (http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-24209.iso)
(burn to DVD with Windows Disk Image Burner for install disk, use activation code on label under notebook)


After a clean install you may want to install some drivers back on your system:

This is the basic driver set:

Chipset driver
Intel RST
Intel MEI
Fresco USB 3.0
nVidia Graphics
Realtek LAN
Realtek cardreader
WLAN (Atheros or Intel, depending on your machine)
Asus ATK Package
Touchpoad (not absolutely essential, since the generic MS drivers is quite functional)
Bluetooth (if present and needed)
Realtek audio (not absolutely essential, depending on your usage)



Applications that you don't need (bloatware) is good described in this other FORUM (http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/380681-asus-utility-bloatware-guide.html).
So if you want to get rid of programs that you don't know what is, or not sure if you need it, that site is a good site to start on :)
(It's recommended to have P4G utility, but you don't have to use that program. If you want the features of the FN keys (and backlight in KB if you got) the ATK package is the only program you need then).


Then you should do some update on your notebook to get the latest drivers, and the Windows Update utility is a good place to start.
Begin the updates from Microsoft Update utility and let it go on by it self in the background, when you're waiting for the updates to finish, you could start download other software for your graphic card, chipset, processor, WIFI card, touchpad drivers and so on.

Graphics:
Nvidia Drivers (http://www.geforce.com/Drivers) (nVidia's official driver site)
(Latest Nvidia drivers Official Beta and Modded (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?5517-Latest-NVIDIA-drivers-Official-Beta-and-Modded)) (thread from this forum)

ATI/AMD Drivers (http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDSupportHub.aspx) (AMD's official driver site)

Chipset/processor:
Intel Drivers (http://downloadcenter.intel.com/) (Intel's official driver site)
Intel Driver Update Utility (http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect?iid=dc_spotlight_dctop10) (Intel's driver update utility, scans your notebook for compatible hardware to update)

Other programs/applications:
G73/74/53 Series Driver and Application Reference (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?1150-G73-74-53-Series-Driver-and-Application-Reference) (thread from this forum)
Drivers, Apps and How to's (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?5224-Drivers-Apps-and-How-to-s) (Thread from this forum)
Support Asus (http://support.asus.com/Download/Options.aspx?SLanguage=en&type=1) (Asus support site, search for your model)

If you need AV/security programs I recommend:
Microsoft Security Essentials (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/products/security-essentials) (Microsofts official download site)
SuperAntiSpyware Free Edition (http://download.cnet.com/SuperAntiSpyware-Free-Edition/3000-8022_4-10523889.html?tag=mncol;1) (Cnet download site)
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware (http://download.cnet.com/Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware/3000-8022_4-10804572.html?tag=mncol;1) (Cnet download site)

I hope this gives you an idea of where you can start with your notebook if you got issues :)

Feel free to comment, or if you got some questions about this information.

BrodyBoy
01-06-2012, 07:46 PM
First off when you get your brand new notebook the best thing to do is to make a clean install.
For that you don't need a recovery cd to do it since there is a hidden partition in your notebook with the recovery settings on.

When your booting up your notebook, hit F9 when you see the Asus logo, then you should be able to access the hidden partition and then you can choose between different "modes" how you want to reinstall your notebook. A clean install isn't the same thing as a factory restore. There's really no point in doing a factory restore when you first get the computer....

fuzon1337
01-06-2012, 07:56 PM
I would say that depends, when I received my notebook it was preinstalled with the english layout, but then again my notebook was a demo product or what to call it (before I bought it, this was one of the notebooks with the faulty sandybridge issues).

BrodyBoy
01-06-2012, 07:59 PM
It may make sense for the occasional demo or floor model, if the OEM installation is a little messed up. (Still, you may want to change "clean install" to "factory restore." I think it confuses the issue, since actual clean installation is a frequent topic around here.)

But as general advice for everybody with a new notebook, the vast majority of which bought a new, factory-sealed model, the recommendation to perform a factory install really does not apply.

fuzon1337
01-06-2012, 08:15 PM
Sorry for the mix up, I have changed it now, but I'm glad to get comments about this, I learn a lot even I write it wrong :P

AQUASTEVAE
01-07-2012, 08:41 AM
in any case, i would always do a clean install, no matter the situation. it can only help.

fuzon1337
01-08-2012, 01:31 PM
Clean install aka facotry install or clean install of W7 ?

chrsplmr
01-08-2012, 01:46 PM
as mentioned above....a clean install of win7 is a clean install...
a factory restore intall... is not just win7 + drivers.........
this is referred to as 'bloatware'...manufacturers software..and
the manufacturers sponsor/vendors software, offers......b l o a t ...
a clean win7install isnt clean either until you go in and shut
half of the microsoft 'bloat' off ........... if you want to get to just RAW... PC/OS/and U...GAMEON.c.

fuzon1337
01-12-2012, 09:19 PM
Thanks for clearing that up for me :) Have always thought that if I wanted to do a clean install was the same as pushing F9 during bootup and clean the notebook from bloatware and all crappy software you don't need after that.

Changed the info so it's correct for other users who wants to start off the right way with their old/new notebook ;) :)

Rogers
01-17-2012, 11:56 AM
Hi there!

I just yesterday got my used (2 months old) G74SX-TZ226V laptop. I did a factory restore (from hidden partition) on it the minute i got it cos of some old stuff the previous user had. I left it at that and am now wondering which tread to use to install drivers and such. Can i just click the links on this thread and hope everything goes well? Or the G73/74/53 Series Driver and Application Reference (http://rog.asus.com/forum/newreply.php?p=62916&noquote=1) one.

The thing is I'm having a hard time reading all this as imma computer noob and don't want to mess things up right at the start. What exactly should i install and deinstall on my laptop? And what are the best/newest drivers as this and the other thread suggests several for each component (ie. graphics with Nvidia drivers, Latest Nvidia..., ATI/AMD Drivers). As on the Asus applications I can just deinstall them and they don't leave a trace of themselves in the registry or anywhere?

Now i found this thread Drivers, Apps, and How-to's (http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?5224-Drivers-Apps-and-How-to-s) from a link in this very thread and am thinking I just found a solution. Simplest thread ever, just click on all the items, right??? Is this the answer of my dreams? Can I just go ahead and click everything when I'm on my laptop? Or are there better/newer versions or something else I have to take into consideration?

Then a second question: Can i make an image of Win7 after the process where i have installed all the necessary drivers, programs and games and how should I go on with this? (Is it suggested to do one?)

Please help! :)

Edit: Just wondered if i did right on the factory recovery or is there a 'cleaner' install that might benefit me or can I just get rid of the stuff I don't want and that's as perfect as I can get. (I do want some of the Asus stuff.)

Edit2: Where to look for overclocking advice and should I do it?

BrodyBoy
01-17-2012, 12:08 PM
Considering that it was used, the factory restore was a good idea. That way, you can be absolutely sure the previous owner's files and modifications are cleared out. Assuming the hardware was all in good condition, this gave you a computer in its brand new, out-of-the-box condition.

This is not the same as a clean install, as it includes all the pre-installed Asus software. If you want a "clean" machine, you need to re-install Windows and all the essential drivers, replacing the installation you have now.

If you just want to tidy up the installation you have, there are two main tasks: (1) uninstall as much of the Asus software as you're willing to let go, and (2) update some of the drivers.

Once you decide how you want to proceed, we can offer some guidance. (Regarding one question you asked....you don't just download and install everything you see in that Drivers thread. It includes a lot of optional software, and drivers for other models.)

EDIT: The G74 doesn't have a BIOS that allows overclocking. But you should focus on optimizing your setup to your liking before considering things like gaming tweaks.

Rogers
01-17-2012, 12:21 PM
... tidy up the installation ...
two main tasks: (1) uninstall as much of the Asus software as you're willing to let go, and (2) update some of the drivers.

Once you decide how you want to proceed, we can offer some guidance. (Regarding one question you asked....you don't just download and install everything you see in that Drivers thread. It includes a lot of optional software, and drivers for other models.)
Wow! Thank you for your FAST response. Guess I would be totally lost without help... :D I wanna do the above. Get rid of all the junk i don't really need and get the best possible drivers for all the components. (I noticed keyboard lag and mousepad oddities already.)

BrodyBoy
01-17-2012, 12:30 PM
Wow! Thank you for your FAST response. Guess I would be totally lost without help... :D I wanna do the above. Get rid of all the junk i don't really need and get the best possible drivers for all the components. (I noticed keyboard lag and mousepad oddities already.)
In that case, go into the Control Panel and start uninstalling things! The only Asus program you need is the ATK Package....the rest is expendable. There are also things like Nuance PDF reader, Express Gate Cloud utility, and a few others, that aren't "Asus," pre se, but equally extraneous.

(Note: AI Recovery is a program for making a copy of the recovery partition. SO if you want a copy, make it before uninstalling the program.)

Some easy uninstall candidates:

KB Filter 1.0.0.3
Rotation Desktop
Gaming Mouse
Power4Gear Hybrid
Virtual Camera
Smart Logon
Wireless Console
Splendid
Asus Live Update
WinFlash
USB Charger Plus
AI Recovery
Express Gate Cloud Utility
Trend Micro trialware

chrsplmr
01-17-2012, 01:28 PM
Wow! Thank you for your FAST response. Guess I would be totally lost without help... :D

Wouldnt we all.

Followed by excellent advice.....i love this bar.c.

erikhell
01-17-2012, 02:42 PM
Very good article Fuzon1337 wish I had it a few days ago! :)

Thanks for all help!

Rogers
01-17-2012, 03:33 PM
Ok, think I got one part of the problem solved though I havent been able to deinstall anything yet. So what about the drivers, where to get them and which ones?

BrodyBoy
01-17-2012, 03:43 PM
Ok, think I got one part of the problem solved though I havent been able to deinstall anything yet. So what about the drivers, where to get them and which ones?
I'd recommend you update:

Intel chipset driver (http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20018/a08/infinst_autol.zip) 9.2.0.1030
Intel RST (http://downloadmirror.intel.com/20624/eng/iata_enu_10.8.0.1003.exe) 10.8.0.1003
Fresco USB 3.0 (http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/Drivers/USB3.0/USB3_Fresco_Win7_64_Z3540.zip) v3.5.4.0
nVidia GeForce graphics (http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/285.62/285.62-desktop-win7-winvista-64bit-english-whql.exe) driver 285.62
ATK Package (http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/Drivers/ATKPackage/ATKPackage_Win7_64_Z100014.zip) 1.0.00014

You'll also want to update your touchpad driver (especially if you have a Sentelic touchpad), and your WLAN driver (especially if it's an Atheros card).

There may be newer versions of some other drivers, like audio, ethernet, etc., and you can certainly update those as well. But it's not really critical unless you're having issues with one of those devices.

PS: Many drivers install right over the top of older versions and replace them. But it's a good idea to uninstall the old driver first for WLAN drivers and the ATK Package. For the nVidia driver, choose the custom install option and do a clean install.

esotericman
01-17-2012, 05:00 PM
ATK Package (http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/nb/Drivers/ATKPackage/ATKPackage_Win7_64_Z100014.zip) 1.0.00014



And when you do this, don't forget to turn on your keyboard lights via the F-keys. I did a clean install last week and it took me to realize I hadn't turned them on. They were on as a default, and when I nuked everything, and installed the drivers, the default was off. Of course I rarely use the keyboard lights... Anyway, this forum rocks for aid in bugs and all things clean install.

fuzon1337
01-17-2012, 07:09 PM
Very good article Fuzon1337 wish I had it a few days ago! :)

Thanks for all help!

Thanks for good response :D
I'm glad that I could be to help :)

How is it with your issue (low FPSin game) ?

@Rogers, I don't have any more input to say since BrodyBoy and Esotericman have covered all the questions and guide options for you :)

Rogers
01-17-2012, 10:22 PM
One more thing about the drivers. I read this on a finnish forum. Basically you should uninstall all the existing drivers before installing new ones. You can even use this program: Driversweeper to get rid of everything that's left behind after the uninstall. Oh and after the uninstall, before the Driversweeper I should reboot in safe mode (F8 at startup). Should I really do this?

I also read that a perfectly clean win7 install would work faster than if I do the factory recovery and remove the programs. Is this really so?

BrodyBoy
01-17-2012, 10:44 PM
One more thing about the drivers. I read this on a finnish forum. Basically you should uninstall all the existing drivers before installing new ones. You can even use this program: Driversweeper to get rid of everything that's left behind after the uninstall. Oh and after the uninstall, before the Driversweeper I should reboot in safe mode (F8 at startup). Should I really do this?

I also read that a perfectly clean win7 install would work faster than if I do the factory recovery and remove the programs. Is this really so?
A clean install is definitely faster and more stable than a factory restore.

There are certain drivers that should be uninstalled before their newer versions are installed. WLAN, ATK Package, and IMO, the nVidia graphics driver, are the specific ones I'd always uninstall first.

There's really no reason to install drivers from Safe Mode unless you're having issues and need to do it as a troubleshooting step.

Rogers
01-18-2012, 07:44 AM
Ok. How should I proceed with a clean install? I have a Win7 upgrade disc (from Vista to 7) but I should be able to get an universal install thingy from the first post of this thread? Can I just dl that and start the iso? Or does it need to be burned on a DVD? I also want my Win7 in finnish, can this 'universal' iso be installed in finnish? Then I just present my key from the bottom of the laptop, right?

After that I just need to update the drivers after uninstalling the needed ones and download all the ASUS software (from their webpage) I want. Is this the best thing to do to make it work as good as possible? Is it this simple? Everything will just work like in a new laptop but without the bloat, right?

Oh and after all the installations (games, programs too?) I can make an image(?) of the Win7 and I can return it to this perfectly clean state anytime I want? How to do this "backup" the easiest way and should I? But first about the install, this is secondary.

BrodyBoy
01-18-2012, 08:21 AM
Best to just make a Windows Home Premium installer (assuming that's the edition you currently have....you can't upgrade with a clean install). Then you install all the essential drivers. The first page in Windows Setup is the language selection page, so no problem setting it to Finnish.

If you do want Asus programs, I'd suggest you only add them slowly. Like once every day or two....so you can assess their impact on your system. If you add a bunch and have problems, it can be hard to figure out which is to blame.

You can make a system image at any point....right after Windows & the drivers are setup, after your programs are installed....whatever you prefer.

Let me know which parts, if any, for which you want more detailed instruction/information.

EDIT: PM sent.

Rogers
01-18-2012, 08:51 AM
PM replied.

The Image is what i need help with after the install instructions.

1. With an image (after I made it and am going to do a clean reinstall) I don't need keys or anything?
2. Does this image have to be on a disc or Is it possible to do this from the SSD?
3. Can I have programs and games installed within the image so it automatically installs/copies them too?
4. If so, is there a size cap for the image as in a limit for programs and games or the C: drive?
5. Are there any other ways of going about this Windows backup or is this image thing the best, easiest and fastest?

BrodyBoy
01-18-2012, 08:58 AM
A system image will include everything that is on the system C: drive, whether that's just Windows, or whether it includes lots of programs and data.

If there is a lot of other stuff (besides WIndows) on the system drive, the image gets very big....40, 50Gbs or more. It also takes longer to make the image, and to restore it. There's no "size cap" for the system image, but there's kind of a practical limit...I wouldn't want a 100Gb image that takes two hours to restore! :) (This is one of the best reasons for keeping Windows and programs on one partition, and data on other partitions. It makes backing up th system much more efficient.)

There's no need for any product keys, since it just restores the EXACT copy of your installation at that moment the image was made. Your acivations are intact.

Windows Backup can also make the "regular" kind of backups...that is, copies of selected files. That's better for backing up important data, but not for backing up your whole installation. There are 3rd party programs for making backups, and they work the same way as the Windows program. But unless you need to schedule several different automatic backups, Windows Backup & Restore should be adequate.

Rogers
01-18-2012, 09:11 AM
Yes, after all the BIOS, Win7, drivers (, programs?) installation. I always have the factory recovery in the hidden partition, but maybe I just do a factory recovery disc with the ASUS program just in case...

About the BIOS, how do I know if I have to update it and is the version in the guide the newest? I know if I have the same version I don't have to update but where do I see it? :)

So I need maybe 2 DVD-Rs (what is the best option of DVD if I want to maybe overwrite the image with a new one?) and an ?GB empty memory stick (for the BIOS update) as hardware for all the operations (if I want the factory recovery disc too)? If I buy the memory stick I want the Image on it after the BIOS update (or maybe I shouldn't if I need to update BIOS again!?), but the Win7 install on a disc. So best to just get a separate USB for the BIOS stuff and separate Install discs for the Windows and the Image... This is the hardware I need? This hardware question is important as I'm going shortly to where my laptop is and want to get all the stuff I need in one go.

EDIT: Where do I store this 50GB file, can I have several DVDs?

BrodyBoy
01-18-2012, 09:40 AM
Yes, after all the BIOS, Win7, drivers (, programs?) installation. I always have the factory recovery in the hidden partition, but maybe I just do a factory recovery disc with the ASUS program just in case...
I think it's a good idea to keep a copy, just so you have it if you ever need it. If you want to delete the recovery partition, you would need to make the DVD recovery disks with the AI Recovery program.


About the BIOS, how do I know if I have to update it and is the version in the guide the newest? I know if I have the same version I don't have to update but where do I see it? :)
Yes, v203 is the latest BIOS for the G74. You can see what your current BIOS is a couple ways:


Press F2 immediately after powering up to enter the BIOS. The current version is listed on the main page.
Start EZ Flash (as shown in the instructions). The "Current Platform" section displays the current BIOS information, as described. (You can just cancel & exit without performing any update.)


So I need maybe 2 DVD-Rs (what is the best option of DVD if I want to maybe overwrite the image with a new one?) and an ?GB empty memory stick (for the BIOS update) as hardware for all the operations (if I want the factory recovery disc too)? If I buy the memory stick I want the Image on it after the BIOS update (or maybe I shouldn't if I need to update BIOS again!?), but the Win7 install on a disc. So best to just get a separate USB for the BIOS stuff and separate Install discs for the Windows and the Image... This is the hardware I need? This hardware question is important as I'm going shortly to where my laptop is and want to get all the stuff I need in one go.
A system image will require more than two DVDs. I would suggest putting the image on your second hard drive (this is especially convenient and fast), or on a portable USB hard drive. It's faster and more convenient than splitting it up onto a set of DVDs. But DVDs will work, too.

The BIOS update requires very little space, so you can use any USB thumbrive. Then just erase it after you're done. You won't need to use that BIOS update again.

Okay...to summarize your hardware/media needs:


BIOS UPDATE: you can use any thumbdrive. You will format it, erasing all existing data. AFter the update, there is no need to save the BIOS data on it, so just erase it and use it however you want.
WINDOWS INSTALLER: you need one blank DVD or a USB thumbdrive (minimum 4Gb).
SYSTEM IMAGE: you can use space on your secondary hard drive, or use a portable USB hard drive, or several DVDs.

Rogers
01-18-2012, 01:16 PM
A couple quick questions... AI burn (the recovery burner) said I need 6 DVDs! :) I only bought 5 so back to store...
Does the image USB external drive have to be empty or can I use it for other stuff too?
I only have one hardrive as in physical drive that is partitioned into two partitions. Can I use the other partition for the image storage and does it have to be empty otherwise?

BrodyBoy
01-18-2012, 07:09 PM
I've made the DVD recovery disk and it never took more than four....even though it told me to have six ready.T he five disks you have on hand will probbaly be more than adequate.

The external drive doesn't have to be empty. You can just have the image sitting there with all the other stuff you use on that drive.

Sorry, I didn't realize you have a one-disk system (I thought you mentioned an SSD somewhere along the line). You can save the image onto the second partition....the non-OS partition....but it's somewhat less secure. One use of the system image is quickly recovering your system after a hard drive failure...you simply pop in a new drive, restore your system image to it, and you're back in business in less than an hour. But if your image is on that same failed drive, you're kinda screwed. :(

So, bottom line. The place where you save the system image doesn't have to be otherwise empty. I would recommend, as an aside, that you save the image into the root directory of whatever save location you choose. It's not techinically necessary, but it seems to be more reliable.

NuclearPanda
01-18-2012, 07:22 PM
Hi all!

I just got a refurb'd G73SW-1BTY from Newegg (which is strange, since i just took a look at my order page and it says that I purchased a G73SW-BST6, is there a difference between the two????).


I was having issues connecting to the download page for the Windows 7x64 ISO. Is this still the correct link?

http://pcaudio.dyndns.info/stuff/Win7_x64_InstallDVD.rar

Also I purchased a 120gb Corsair SSD to use as the main OS boot drive. I've never installed a drive in a lappy before and wonder how difficult it is. I opened the back of the case and it looks like it's mostly plug & play and slides right into the connection there. Is that is? No cabling or anything needed to connect to mobo?

I made a new thread about this, so if you want to answer there instead of cluttering this one I understand.

Thanks so much all.

BrodyBoy
01-18-2012, 07:29 PM
I responded in your other thread. :)

Rogers
01-19-2012, 10:41 AM
Ok. I got an external USB drive and can use that.

i have updated BIOS and made a backup of Win 7 verification (with the ABR program)

Now my plan is to
1. Make the recovery backup DVDs with AI
2. Download Windows 7 installer and all the drivers
Q: Are the drivers on the guide the newest and best ones? i can see the trackpad etc types in the "equipment" management thingy on Control panel, right?
3. Burn Windows on a DVD (maybe copy drivers on USB thumbdrive)
4. Install clean Windows and drivers
Q: Is it recommended to uninstall the drivers you recommended to uninstall even with a clean win install, does thos clean install even have any?
5. Install necessary programs and games
Q: Would you recommend an antivirus program like F-Secure? What other necessary programs should I install?
6: Make image on USB-Drive.

Edit: Having trouble with downloading the drivers. I couldn't get any Realtek drivers from the links and my bluetooth device is Atheros, not azureware or intel.

dstrakele
01-19-2012, 03:52 PM
Did you try downloading the drivers from this thread: http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?5224-Drivers-Apps-and-How-to-s ?

I don't know what model laptop you own. Confirm the drivers are appropriate for your system by looking in Device Manager.

Rogers
01-19-2012, 04:24 PM
I'm using a guide by BrodyBoy but the drivers seem to be the same (Edit: got the Atheros Bluetooth driver from that thread dstrakele gave).

I didn't know what to download from the realtek site but then the guide went on and helped in great detail... :)

Still I have to ask about the Bluetooth Driver cos I got atheros BT and don't know what to do... I don't really know if I'll ever use BT on this computer (Asus g74SX-TZ226V). Ok this was solved too, it read on the guide... Silly me.

Then the Realtek multicardreader driver. It's for G73 and I can't find such a device on my comp (physically yes, there's a slot) but I guess Brody knows what he's doing. ;)

One question: As I have soon downloaded the gigantic Windows 7 DVD, do I just burn it to a blank DVD and that's that? The guide says burn the ISO and the download says its a RAR-file, is it the same thing?

Edit: OMG! I just put the ISO to download from the link in Brodys guide and the file is bigger but the DL time is less than was remaining in the other file that has been DL'ing for 4 hours... :D Ok this win install is solved for now. thank you!

dstrakele
01-19-2012, 04:40 PM
The .RAR file is a compressed version of the Windows 7 .ISO file (to speed download). You'll need to extract the .ISO file from the RAR and then burn it to DVD. Once the burn is complete, you can set your BIOS boot order to look for the DVD player first and it will load the Windows 7 Setup from the DVD.

Your Card Reader will appear under "Other Devices" in Device Manager (and will require driver installation to function), once you've completed the Windows 7 installation.

BrodyBoy
01-19-2012, 07:08 PM
Then the Realtek multicardreader driver. It's for G73 and I can't find such a device on my comp (physically yes, there's a slot) but I guess Brody knows what he's doing. ;)
That IS the cardreader driver for the G74. If you go to the Asus G74 product page, that's the driver you'll find. They undoubtedly just used the same Realtek hardware, so there was no need to develop a differnt driver for the G74.


One question: As I have soon downloaded the gigantic Windows 7 DVD, do I just burn it to a blank DVD and that's that? The guide says burn the ISO and the download says its a RAR-file, is it the same thing?

Edit: OMG! I just put the ISO to download from the link in Brodys guide and the file is bigger but the DL time is less than was remaining in the other file that has been DL'ing for 4 hours... :D Ok this win install is solved for now. thank you!

I don't know of any .rar download options for the installer....but I wouldn't bother to use them anyway. There are some known good options, like the link I gave you.


To Address a couple questions in your prior post:


Q: Are the drivers on the guide the newest and best ones? i can see the trackpad etc types in the "equipment" management thingy on Control panel, right?
Yes.


Q: Is it recommended to uninstall the drivers you recommended to uninstall even with a clean win install, does thos clean install even have any?
No need to uninstall drivers after a clean install. The drivers you are adding are necessary because Windows doesn't provide native support.


Q: Would you recommend an antivirus program like F-Secure? What other necessary programs should I install?
You'll get lost of opinions here... I use Norton NIS, but a good free option is Microsoft Security Essentials. It's really quite good, and you can't beat the price! Even if you are trying to decide on a more full featured security suite, it's be a good idea to install MSE while you're researching.


Edit: Having trouble with downloading the drivers. I couldn't get any Realtek drivers from the links and my bluetooth device is Atheros, not azureware or intel.
As I indicated in the notes, the Realtek drivers are not directly linked.....their site doesn't work that way. You need to navigate to the appropriate area of their download site, sometimes approve the usage terms, and then select the correct driver from the list.

Azurewave is the brand name of the card, and ATheros is the brand of on-board chip it uses. The names are used interchangeably for the Azurewave/Atheros hardware drivers.

Austin
04-25-2012, 08:13 PM
i know this may sound dumb but dose my computer Asus g74sx have amd becuase when i ran a scan some files it acanned said amd

fuzon1337
04-25-2012, 08:17 PM
i know this may sound dumb but dose my computer Asus g74sx have amd becuase when i ran a scan some files it acanned said amd

I haven't seen any G74 with AMD GPU or CPU so I daubt there is any notebooks on the G74 series with AMD. But you can have got those files with installing games? or something like that

Austin
04-25-2012, 08:26 PM
installed Mabinogi ANd Saints row the third

fuzon1337
04-25-2012, 08:31 PM
Hmm.... perhaps the latest I said that you could get files from amd by installing games is not right. I know that PhysX gets installed if you got an amd GPU... but don't know if amd is producing any drivers like that to optimize a game.

Which G74sx do you have?

Austin
04-25-2012, 08:42 PM
will that Windos 7 instalation work for my G74sx Asus and im gussing i need a mouse and to put updates of drivers on usb drive

fuzon1337
04-25-2012, 08:54 PM
If you are thinking of performing on a clean install, the windows 7 iso file will work. You'll need to burn it into a CD.

To activate Win7 when the installations is done, you type in the serial number (under your laptop there is a microsoft certified label, with serial number).

I would pm @BrodyBoy and ask him for which drivers you should start to install (he got a list that you can follow) after a clean install of Win7.

But one important thing is to backup all important files you got! ;)

And also another thing you should notice is which touchpad driver you have. If you install the wrong one, then you can get a very buggy mouse. Synaptics or Sentelic touchpad driver deliver.

Austin
04-25-2012, 09:04 PM
dont i need a mouse though? thats what some one told me

fuzon1337
04-25-2012, 09:07 PM
Uhm.... Microsoft installs a plug'n'play driver on different devices so it works, but it will be buggy/ not optimized.

BrodyBoy
04-25-2012, 11:03 PM
i know this may sound dumb but dose my computer Asus g74sx have amd becuase when i ran a scan some files it acanned said amd
No, that doesn't refer to an AMD CPU. Many 64-bit system files have "amd64" in the name, as distinguished from their 32-bit counterparts that are designated with "x86" in their filenames.

ravincia
04-26-2012, 10:57 AM
I got a question about the clean install. I tried doing a clean install on my friend's acer laptop, but the serial key would not work. I searched online and found out that the serial key provided would only work on the windows os provided by acer (you cant use it on regular versions). Any idea if thats the same case with asus?

fuzon1337
04-26-2012, 11:04 AM
I got a question about the clean install. I tried doing a clean install on my friend's acer laptop, but the serial key would not work. I searched online and found out that the serial key provided would only work on the windows os provided by acer (you cant use it on regular versions). Any idea if thats the same case with asus?

Did you use the Win7 HP iso from this site? Also you have to be sure that when you do a clean install, the Win7 have to be the same as the current version on the notebook.
Example: You will get issue with useing a Win7 Home premium key on Win7 Premium.

I used one that @Chastity had once, but the link s/he's providing doesn't work. So the link from @Jrd1st should work just fine, and use the serial number under your notebook.

ravincia
04-26-2012, 11:51 AM
I didnt use the iso from the abovementioned site, but rest assured, the iso i used was a genuine windows installation from microsoft. And yes, i made sure that the windows version was the same. I havent tried the iso @Jrd1st posted yet, still downloading it :)

Edit: The iso was from the same site. Maybe it didnt work because it wasnt with service pack 1?

fuzon1337
04-26-2012, 12:17 PM
Edit: The iso was from the same site. Maybe it didnt work because it wasnt with service pack 1?

I don't think that doesn't matter, but could be the reason.

Just be sure when you're installing Win7 HP, be sure not to overwrite or uninstall the recovery partiton. It's good to have if you want to recover your notebook back to factory settings.

ravincia
04-26-2012, 01:29 PM
Im gonna try installing it onto a new ssd im gonna get tmr. If that fails, i guess cloning would do just as well right?

BrodyBoy
04-26-2012, 06:01 PM
I didnt use the iso from the abovementioned site, but rest assured, the iso i used was a genuine windows installation from microsoft. And yes, i made sure that the windows version was the same. I havent tried the iso @Jrd1st posted yet, still downloading it :)

Edit: The iso was from the same site. Maybe it didnt work because it wasnt with service pack 1?
The service pack wouldn't matter.....but the package and edition do. In other words, you need Windows Home Premium OEM....not a full retail installer, not an upgrade. Even when you do this, however, there's that occasional instance where you might have to call Microsoft and do use the automated phone activation system. It's a little less convenient, but not terribly so.

Here is the latest Windows 7 64x SP1 Home Premium (http://msft.digitalrivercontent.net/win/X17-58997.iso) installer ISO.


Im gonna try installing it onto a new ssd im gonna get tmr. If that fails, i guess cloning would do just as well right?
Not quite the same as a clean install, but it will work.

MinhMMK
04-26-2012, 11:32 PM
Finally have my G53SW-XN1 :D i'm so happy right now. I'm currently updating all the drivers.

Edit: I have a question. My computer had the e support folder, which is basically the Utility Driver Disk that came along with the computer. Is it safe to just delete it ? Since i found no installation for that, and it seems to be just a file, not a program.

fuzon1337
04-27-2012, 09:48 PM
It's nice to see that you have recieved your new notebook, congratz :)

Let us hope that you don't have any issues with it, and it works as it should all time!

Not sure about the "e support folder". I would assume that it's only to uninstall it, but perhaps let it be until other says it's ok :P

dstrakele
04-27-2012, 10:14 PM
I have a question. My computer had the e support folder, which is basically the Utility Driver Disk that came along with the computer. Is it safe to just delete it ? Since i found no installation for that, and it seems to be just a file, not a program.

What is the name of the file?

MinhMMK
04-27-2012, 11:12 PM
Yeah it's like a folder which contain eManual, eDriver,... the same contents i found on the Utility Disc. So i guess it's like a backup folder.

Still struggling to update my window lol. My G53SW still works fine but it has a pretty outdated window 7 so i have to do a lot of update.

Just downloaded all the necessary driver from this thread. Hopefully i will be able to test some games tonight :D.

I have a small question about GPU Tweak, i try to instal the 2.0.3 Version but after i double-clicked it it wont run :(. any ideas ?

Edit: I plan to update RAM for my G53SW to 10GB and i'm considering this : http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-DDR3-Laptop-Memory-CMSO4GX3M1A1333C9/dp/B002YU83YO/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1335567963&sr=1-7

Please give me some advise :D thanks :)

fuzon1337
04-27-2012, 11:20 PM
Which updates are you struggeling with ? The updates from Windows update?

Perhaps you have to restart your notebook, then the GPU Tweak will work. :)

If you're planning on upgrade your RAM to 10GB... is there 2, 3 or 4 slots in your notebook? Also it's best to have all RAM sticks to be the same (don't have one samsung and two corsair, it will work but will perhaps not give the same boost at all time)

MinhMMK
04-27-2012, 11:27 PM
I have 4 slots with 2 empty right know. I plan to insert one to the slot on the front keyboard :D. Yes it's window update. It took lots of time lol.

After the update i will try to instal CPU-Z to check my RAM brand :).

fuzon1337
04-27-2012, 11:33 PM
About the GPU Tweak... did you download 2.0.3 or 2.0.6 ? I downloaded it now and I found a newer version :)

Hehe Windows update takes all the time it wants, so there you have to be patient :) :P

MinhMMK
04-27-2012, 11:41 PM
I remember it was 2.0.3. That was before i had to do factory restore because i messed up the windows update. :)

fuzon1337
04-28-2012, 09:17 AM
Btw, about the RAM upgrade, I don't think it's possible for you to upgrade to 10GB.

You have three slots used with 2GB on each slot out of four. So you can either get 8GB or 12GB RAM.... or you can use 16GB but many says 8GB is enough for gaming purpose.

So you got 2 choices, first is running dual channel mode with 4GBx2 in slot 1 and 3 (if Im not wrong, and also you will be able to run 1600MHz on that) or second is to run singel channel mode 2GBx4(8GB) all slots used (1333Mhz).

MinhMMK
04-28-2012, 06:36 PM
I just checked my G53SW :D it has one 2GB Ram and one 4GB Ram on Slot 1 and Slot 3. So is it still possible :D I'm not really good at this.

fuzon1337
04-28-2012, 06:58 PM
Okey then it's possible for you to get 10GB RAM :) So you're running dual channel mode now then :)

MinhMMK
04-28-2012, 08:48 PM
That's right :). So do i have to mess with the BIOS when i insert my 3rd ram ?

fuzon1337
04-28-2012, 09:45 PM
Nope, not that I can think of..... when buy the 4G just be sure it's 4GB and not 2x2=4GB (sticks on 2GB) then you will fill all the slots.

After you have inserted them you should make sure that they work as they should :)

EDIT: You can then go to BIOS and check there and use HWInfo 64 or something like that to check it :)

MinhMMK
04-28-2012, 10:50 PM
Another quenstion: I did OC my 460M a little at 795 (core) /1425 (mem) /1590 (shader). the GPU's temperature is around 47-50 Celsius stand by and around 81-83 Celsius when gaming. Is it normal ?

fuzon1337
04-28-2012, 10:58 PM
These temp seems normal, but just be aware that this can shorten the lifte of your notebook, and if any damage is set because of this then your warranty is voided if I'm not wrong

MinhMMK
04-28-2012, 11:01 PM
I understand the risk :D thank you so much. I just ordered a 4GB RAM Stick from Corsair :D.