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0c7or0k
02-16-2017, 03:58 AM
I just installed a Samsung 960 pro M2 NVMe 512gb SSD... and I need some help.

The SSD is in the slot, and the BIOS is showing me this:

Under this sub menu...
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...my SSD is listed...
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...with this info:
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The SSD shows up in Windows 10(64bit) device manager under "Disk Drives":
http://gbb.octorok.net/4.jpg

Here's the various info shown under the device properties:
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I downloaded the Driver/installer from Samsung's website, but the installer shows me this:
http://gbb.octorok.net/9.jpg

...Also Samsung Magician wont see it.
http://gbb.octorok.net/10.jpg

PLEASE HELP!!!!!

JustinThyme
02-16-2017, 05:40 AM
This is because raid is enabled. Samsung drivers or software cannot see past a raid controller. This isnt new, has been this way since its inception.
You don't need the drivers and the software is also worthless. Neither will work on their OEM drives either raid controller or not.

I've proven time and again that there is zero gain using Samsung drivers over the default windows drivers.

Don't expect to get full speed out of it. The laptop bottlenecks at about 2800MBps so it wont see the 3400-3500 seq read speeds.

Julskey
02-16-2017, 05:45 AM
Hello, by any chance, your sata mode in bios is set as raid? If yo dont have a raid config, and are not going to do so in the future, better put sata mode in ahci. Many topics here point out no difference in drive performance of ssd m.2 whether it be in raid or ahci. If you have already installed win 10 in yur m.2 drive, first restart in windows in safe mode, by typing msconfig in the start bar, right click on system configuration and click pin to task bar (not necessary but convenient when disabling safe boot). Before rog logo appears during restart, spam esc and go to bios. Change sata mode to ahci, save and exit. Next time windows boot go to system config and uncheck safe boot and restart.*

Your samsung magician should now work. I know mine did. Updated firmware in my 512 gb 950 pro in g752vt.*

Credit to steve888 post #118 of this thread (https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?79822-G752-with-Samsung-950-Pro-SSD-new-information/page12):

0c7or0k
02-16-2017, 06:11 AM
I see that thread you linked now... My system is currently in RAID. So is this the process I should follow?

From post #118 in THIS (https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?79822-G752-with-Samsung-950-Pro-SSD-new-information/page12) thread

Ok...here is how I switch between RAID and AHCI mode without reinstalling Windows 10.
I saw this on another web site and it worked perfectly for me on my G752VL Bios 216.
I did not uninstall the Intel RST as shown in step one and had no issues.
After switching to AHCI and back into Windows I installed the Samsung NVME driver.


1.If currently installed, uninstall your RAID or AHCI SATA driver (for intel, intel rapid storage technology)
2.Basically open msconfig -> boot tab -> check safe boot -> restart
3.Go into UEFI/BIOS and set SATA mode to which ever one you want
4.Boot up into windows safe mode
5.Open msconfig again -> under the main menu tab (general) click the normal startup circle - > restart
6.Your system should boot into windows fine and you can install your AHCI or RAID driver.

???

0c7or0k
02-16-2017, 06:19 AM
If I perform this process to boot into AHCI mode, I should be able to then install the Samsung driver? Do I then need to set it back into RAID mode (using the same process) afterwards? Should I clone my HD to the SSD with Magician while in AHCI mode? Should I update the SSD firmware while in AHCI mode? Can I just leave it in AHCI mode permanently?

Thank you so much in advance for helping me!!! You folks are awesome!! =)

BoutTime01
02-16-2017, 06:32 AM
Just leave it in NVME (Raid Mode in BIOS) and use the Window driver. That's what I have done with my SM961 which is the OEM version of yr SSD. And it works perfect. There are plenty of free options for cloning yr old drive and Samsung Magician provides nothing that Windows 10 doesn't provide by itself.

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Julskey
02-16-2017, 07:12 AM
In ahci mode, you can install the samsung driver and samsung software can see the drive. As i said if you dont have a raid array setup or you are not planning to use a raid array setup (combining 2 ssd's or hdd's), then you can leave it to ahci mode (raid disabled). If you like to switch back to raid mode (raid emabled), judt do the same process, reboot in safe mode selected, enter bios prior to safe mode and change to raid mode, exit bios and start in safe mode. Enter sys config and uncheck safe mode. Restart computer. Magician will not see your drive. Performance just about the same. Just a matter of whether you are using raid array or you want to use magicianor samsung migration tool.*
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JustinThyme
02-16-2017, 07:15 AM
If I perform this process to boot into AHCI mode, I should be able to then install the Samsung driver? Do I then need to set it back into RAID mode (using the same process) afterwards? Should I clone my HD to the SSD with Magician while in AHCI mode? Should I update the SSD firmware while in AHCI mode? Can I just leave it in AHCI mode permanently?

Thank you so much in advance for helping me!!! You folks are awesome!! =)

You can leave it with raid disabled if you aren't going to use raid. You wont have to update the firmware, there isn't one to update to, original is still working fine. I think the only ones on the 960 line that needed a firmware update were the 960 evos for a problem they had. 960 pros are all good!

Macrium reflect will clone just fine.
Zero difference with drivers and magician isn't very magical.

0c7or0k
02-16-2017, 11:33 AM
I'm all set!! Everything is working beautifully - Thanks again to JustinThyme and Juleskey for the help! I sincerely appreciate it. :)

For the record, here's what I did to get it all working correctly on my G752VL, Windows 10 (64bit):

0) Downloaded drivers and installed Samsung software tools, defragged my mechanical harddrive
1) Physically installed Samsung 960 pro SSD
2) Enter BIOS and disable RAID (switch to AHCI) using the "safe-mode method" mentioned previously.
3) Boot back into Windows with RAID disabled and Install Samsung SSD Driver
4) Install Intel Rapid Storage Technology driver (from Asus G752VL downloads website under "other")
5) Used Samsung data migration tool to clone my harddrive to my SSD
6) Restart, Shutdown
7) Physically remove my mechanical harddrive and pack it way in case of emergency
8) Reboot into BIOS and set the SSD as the boot device)
9) Crack beer, sit back, and enjoy the incredible speed of this thing... :cool:

0c7or0k
02-16-2017, 11:49 AM
First benchmark test:

http://gbb.octorok.net/SSDbench1.jpg