Modded bios Rampage VI

@tistou77

Running rampage VI Extreme original
Which microcode do you find to be better, 49 or 64, and why?
I just upped from your 1603 mod to the 2002 just due to a rebuild and wanted your thoughts.
Thanks for the work!

With the 7000 series, I use microcode 49, designed to have a TJMax of 105° by default
The 9000 series is designed for a TJmax of 110° (default)

The microcodes beyond the 49 heat the cores more on the 7000 series (TJMax which goes from 105 to 110°)

But there is an operating bug with the AVX512, if the frequency is higher than 4200 with microcode 49 (No problem if the AVX512 frequency is lower therefore)

For me, and my opinion :D

Microcode 49 was release before MDS Vulnerables SA-00233 disclosed and patched.

Microcode 5E which ASUS default 2002 BIOS (RVIE) use was already patched for Intel SA-00233 vulnerables.
For more info :: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...-sa-00233.html

Microcode 60 and 64 were optimized performance version of 5E.

Microcode 65 was testing for protect aginst
1. https://www.intel.com/content/dam/su...de-erratum.pdf
2. https://software.intel.com/security-...ister-sampling
3. https://software.intel.com/security-...ction-sampling

This kind of vulnerability has existed for over 15 years (Spectre, etc...) and it didn't bother anyone before, so I don't care :D

Thanks, Im running a 9940X so the 64 should be good for me especially running at 4.8GHZ all cores with no AVX offset.

I just remember some time back the 49 gave better temps.

New microcode for Skylake-X and Cascade Lake-X

Skylake-X : 68
Cascade Lake-X : F00

If you want to test (for R6E and R6EE) ;)

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Originally Posted by tistou77

New microcode for Skylake-X and Cascade Lake-X

Skylake-X : 68
Cascade Lake-X : F00

If you want to test (for R6E and R6EE) ;)

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์Nice Info master tistou77.These MCU 68 may protect against those error above and these.
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...-sa-00210.html
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...-sa-00271.html
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...-sa-00270.html

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Originally Posted by tistou77

New microcode for Skylake-X and Cascade Lake-X

Skylake-X : 68
Cascade Lake-X : F00

If you want to test (for R6E and R6EE) ;)

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Thanks, also regarding your post few days ago where you said quote
"The microcodes beyond the 49 heat the cores more on the 7000 series (TJMax which goes from 105 to 110°)"

Could this be the reason why am getting high temps with my i9 7900x on the Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore ? My cooling is exactly the same all I did was change the motherboard from Rampage VI Extreme to the Encore and my temps like raised by 7c

Update!!! For Skylake X 65 and 68 MCU Master tistou77 :o

Attachment 84052
These 02000068 microcode and 02000065 microcode both can be boot at UEFI screen.
However it couldn't boot into UEFI Windows . OLED screen show " DETECT HDD A0 " then
stalled. Roll back to 02000064. :o

Lastest stable microcode for Intel TSX Abort Asynchronus Vulnerable / SA-00270 was 02000064 :o
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...e-guidance.pdf

Note :: Test both your modded file and my file result were the same. " DETECT HDD A0 " and stalled.:cool:

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Originally Posted by shadowman007

Thanks, also regarding your post few days ago where you said quote
"The microcodes beyond the 49 heat the cores more on the 7000 series (TJMax which goes from 105 to 110°)"

Could this be the reason why am getting high temps with my i9 7900x on the Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore ? My cooling is exactly the same all I did was change the motherboard from Rampage VI Extreme to the Encore and my temps like raised by 7c

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If you went from microcode 49 to a more recent microcode, that's it
If I use a microcode higher than 49, I have the temperature of the cores which increase by about 5° (normal since the TJMax has increased)

With a 7000 serie CPU

Would using Bios 0505 microcode 49 on a 10 gen cpu like a i9 10900x make any difference in temps since the tjmaxx is 105 ?

49 or 68 microcode are for Skylake-X
It's F00 for Cascade Lake-X

the 2 bios have the same microcode for Cascade Lake-X ;)

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Originally Posted by tistou77

49 or 68 microcode are for Skylake-X
It's F00 for Cascade Lake-X

the 2 bios have the same microcode for Cascade Lake-X ;)

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Which microcode is best for i9 10900x cpu on the Rampage VI Extreme Encore motherboard?

I do not know, must test between that of bios 040x, the 12C of bios 0505 (some have had problems with this one)
And the F00 of bios 0505 modded

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Originally Posted by tistou77

I do not know, must test between that of bios 040x, the 12C of bios 0505 (some have had problems with this one)
And the F00 of bios 0505 modded

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Regarding the TJ Max again and this is for the i9 10900x in bios I set the Maximum core temperature to 105 and in core temp the TJ Max is also showing 105. Before it was on TJ Max 110 when Maximum core temperature was set to auto. So can't this be done for the 7000 series cpu also just set the Maximum core temperature regardless if the microcode is higher then 49?

When we set this option in the bios, setting it to 100 or 105 or other, limits the maximum temperature but the core temperature is always based on a TJmax of 110° (this setting is only set by the microcode)

I had done (and others) several tests on this setting

@tistou77

Thanks for the microcode 68 for bios 2002 Rampage VI Extreme, but i have tested it, i cannot boot to either usb drive or NVME PCIE, it just stop, the LED indicator in my case doesn't shows any read/write activity. Flashed back into 49 or 64 make it work again and able to boot, please check it out.

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Missed restsugavan message, so we should wait for intel to finalized it?

Lastest update! @Biozz able to modded R6E Encore BIOS 0505 working with 02000068 microcode. The 02000068 microcode design to address Intel SA-00329 CacheLeak data vulnerables. For me I had trying many way to modded 2002 Bios via UBU/FIT/UEFI inset,...etc. everything won’t boot Into Windows 10 19564.1005 correctly their are “ CHECKING HDD A0 “ error then stalled.:confused: Look like Shamino and his team locking microcode revision on 2002 bios we need to waiting new bios revision . There are something abnormal on W10 19564.1005 kernel too, normally Windows 10 which has new microcode will load the newest microcode revision rather than Bios microcode. AKA it must load 02000068 when running W10 19654.1005 but It load my bios modded 02000064 microcode instead.:confused: Now I’d contact W10 insiders teams and let them knowing these issues then waiting their reply to grant W10 insider next build to load 02000068 by default :cool: **

Add 3006 modded bios for R6E
With 68 microcode to test

Thank you Master Tistou77. Appreciate your kindness working for us.*

You're welcome ;)

By default, it's 60 microcode with 3006 bios

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Originally Posted by tistou77

You're welcome ;)

By default, it's 60 microcode with 3006 bios

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Master tistou77 do you use W10 insider Preview build 19564.1005 with 02000068 microcode on dll files?
I think we can modded 3006 bios files with 02000068 microcode easily than 2002 due bios files size same
as encore 0505. :cool:*

I use W10 18363.6xx (1909)
Windows microcode is always 5E on this version (mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll file)

Having in mind vulnerabilities grow and grow up, meaning MC 68 could not protect against everything, MC 60 is not a bad idea because of its performance...

We at last had our new Bios's, due on December 29th and uploaded finally on February 15th 2020...

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Originally Posted by vmanuelgm

Having in mind vulnerabilities grow and grow up, meaning MC 68 could not protect against everything, MC 60 is not a bad idea because of its performance...

We at last had our new Bios's, due on December 29th and uploaded finally on February 15th 2020...

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The microcode 02000064 can protect against Intel SA-270/271/277

SA-00270 aka*Microarchitect Data Sampling/TSX Abort Asynchronous/ TA indirect sharing Erratum/AVX Shuffle flaw (Vector data leak)
L1D flush instructions/

SA-00271 aka CPU FIVR Erratum and Jump macro fusion vulnerables.

SA-00277 aka Intel SGX *information leak

According to lastest microcode guidances here.*
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...e-guidance.pdf

The microcode 02000068 can protect against Intel SA 00329 lastest cache data leak
*https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...-sa-00329.html

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Originally Posted by restsugavan

The microcode 02000064 can protect against Intel SA-270/271/277

SA-00270 aka*Microarchitect Data Sampling/TSX Abort Asynchronous/ TA indirect sharing Erratum/AVX Shuffle flaw (Vector data leak)
L1D flush instructions/

SA-00271 aka CPU FIVR Erratum and Jump macro fusion vulnerables.

SA-00277 aka Intel SGX *information leak

According to lastest microcode guidances here.*
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...e-guidance.pdf

The microcode 02000068 can protect against Intel SA 00329 lastest cache data leak
*https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...-sa-00329.html

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Have u checked MC 68 performance vs previous MC versions???

Please waiting I’m during checking with benchmark 64 VS 68 nowadays. Look like 68 microcode used lower voltage than 64 in F5 load optimization.:o
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Originally Posted by tistou77

You're welcome ;)

By default, it's 60 microcode with 3006 bios

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Very BIG thanks to our fried Tistou that keeps this thread fresh and up to date.
You should open like a My fan page mate haha.

I was about to flash the 2002-68 BIOS for my RV6 when I noticed that there is a new BIOS update.
I am still on my trusted 7900x at 4.6 AIO AVX -1 so I will try your new BIOS 68-3006.

I look forward to buy this year the cascade lake X 18 CORE CPU.

Cheers.

After the 3006bios was updated, the speed dropped a lot（R6EO 9980xe ）
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Merci beaucoup monsieur Tistou77, le bios 3006 Microcode 68, marche impeccable sur ma Rampage VI Extreme et I9 7900X. En attendant de passe sur un I9 10940X et R6E Encore.

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Originally Posted by leghmoh

Merci beaucoup monsieur Tistou77, le bios 3006 Microcode 68, marche impeccable sur ma Rampage VI Extreme et I9 7900X. En attendant de passe sur un I9 10940X et R6E Encore.

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De rien ;)

C'est toujours un TJMax de 110° avec le microcode 68, et donc des cores plus chaud (comparé au microcode 49 par exemple) avec la série 7900 ?

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Originally Posted by tistou77

De rien ;)

C'est toujours un TJMax de 110° avec le microcode 68, et donc des cores plus chaud (comparé au microcode 49 par exemple) avec la série 7900 ?

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Thank yo master tistou for all your work. will there be a rampage vi Apex update of 3006 ? i was an all modded Apex since i found your thread :)

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Originally Posted by wargamorpyro

Thank yo master tistou for all your work. will there be a rampage vi Apex update of 3006 ? i was an all modded Apex since i found your thread :)

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Ah yes, I didn't do that one
Post me the link of bios 3006

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Originally Posted by tistou77

Ah yes, I didn't do that one
Post me the link of bios 3006

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https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/m...-ASUS-3006.zip

I have the same motherboard :)

Which modded bios would be best for performance and reliability on the R6E? I already saw a couple of posts saying negative things about microcode 68.

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Originally Posted by jrmcdou

Which modded bios would be best for performance and reliability on the R6E? I already saw a couple of posts saying negative things about microcode 68.

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Not me. My system running smooth:cool:
Microcode 68 prevent cache leak vulnerable Intel SA-00329.
After testing with many games and benchmark. My 7980XE can running 4.4GHz turbo Vcore 1.166V
AVX2/AVX512 offset 3 (4.1GHz) everything is OK.

Attachment 84139
Look at L1/L2 cache bandwidth via microcode 68 above.

Attachment 84140
CB20 AVX2/AVX512 offset 3 (4.1GHz) working smooth.

MC 68 must be so good they released the MC 69 version, :)

https://www.win-raid.com/t3355f47-In...html#msg105002

Modded my 3006 with this new MC 69, played BFV and it makes a flatter frametime graph.

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Originally Posted by vmanuelgm

MC 68 must be so good they released the MC 69 version, :)

https://www.win-raid.com/t3355f47-In...html#msg105002

Modded my 3006 with this new MC 69, played BFV and it has a flatter frametime graph.

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Thank you :cool:

Update!!! Microcode 02000069 is OK!
Attachment 84173

Attachment 84174

Attachment 84175

Attachment 84176

So I see Tisou released 3006 with microcode 68. (Thank you by the way for all the work you do, Tisou!!!!)

Then we have a new microcode of 69 on the other link but i'm not sure which one is the one we should use for the Rampage VI on the link given.

What is the difference between the two and which is better?

For 7xxx and 9xxx LGA 2066 cpus the one to be used in the link I posted is the 50654 MC 69. The other one is for another platform and is a different version, F00.

If u ask the difference between MC 68 and MC 69, obviously MC 69 is newer and guess more refined. First time I see this kind of fast release after releasing some days ago a previous version only separated by one digit (HEX).

I had commented MC 68 was pulled off from Insider 19569 after being introduced in Insider 19564.