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    As far as I know, all X470-F Gaming Strix is...

    As far as I know, all X470-F Gaming Strix is daisy chain, like almost all x470 mobos.
    Do you have a link to this spreadsheet?
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    Im not sure, but if you are going to invest that...

    Im not sure, but if you are going to invest that much in ram, then I would buy a motherboard with T-topology, like e.g ASRock X570 Taichi Motherboard.
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    I would set TPU to default, it might try to do...

    I would set TPU to default, it might try to do some BLCK overclocking, so the reference clock goes above 100 and NVM drives dont like this.
    Just use XFR + PE2, scalar 10

    If you do want to use...
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    Yeah its possibly, but depend on silicon lottery....

    Yeah its possibly, but depend on silicon lottery.
    Its harder to run 4 dimms because of the daisy chain layout of the motherboard. Also maybe because of extra stress on the IMC.

    this what I can...
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    The x470-F is 6 + 4 phase (6 phases for cpu + 4...

    The x470-F is 6 + 4 phase (6 phases for cpu + 4 for soc) and does not have the best heatsinks on VRM.
    It shoudl run the 12 core fine, but would not use it even you want to push it for overclocking....
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    increase cpu voltage by using LLC or maybe use...

    increase cpu voltage by using LLC or maybe use Offset mode instead off manual cpu voltage.
    Test with 1.35 SVI2 TFN CPU core voltage. If that fixes it then you simply needed more votlage, and then...
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    Im not sure, x470-F has no dual bios, but if you...

    Im not sure, x470-F has no dual bios, but if you still get in to the bios. check this
    https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1012219/

    you could also try:
    - unplug psu power
    - turn of psu
    - hold...
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    4x8 gig 3333 mhz + on x470

    Im curious, has anyone got 4 dimms (4x8 gig) on a x470 motherboard stable at 3333 mhz or higher?

    Trying to fugure out if 4 dimms is limted by the IMC or the daisy chain topology of x470...
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    yes this for pretty much any cpu, more stress on...

    yes this for pretty much any cpu, more stress on imc.
    I can do e.g 3400 mhz with 2 dimms single rank and 3266 mhz with 4 dimms single rank (on a ryzen 2700x)
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    The ryzen dram calc, can give some...

    The ryzen dram calc, can give some recommendations about the timings:
    https://www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1640919-ryzen-dram-calculator-1-1-0-beta-2-overclocking-dram-am4.html

    start...
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    Yeah also posted about this way back, it also...

    Yeah also posted about this way back, it also disables PBO also for me when increasing the BLCK.
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    new bios is here:...

    new bios is here:
    https://www.asus.com/nl/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-X470-F-GAMING/HelpDesk_BIOS/
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    I dont kow how healty / unhealty the default...

    I dont kow how healty / unhealty the default voltages are, guess have to wait a few years and see, no way to tell really.
    but the votlages on load / idle on auto are pretty high on this board on...
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    yup that makes sense, ass long as it freezes...

    yup that makes sense, ass long as it freezes under load, I would also increase the LLC and keep the base voltage as low as possible.
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    Is this the lowest you can go? e.g are you...

    Is this the lowest you can go? e.g are you hittling to low volts on idle or to low on load?
    Im using 1.3250 LLC 3 with the 2700x, Performance Enhance 2, where it clocks to 4.3 - 4.075 depending on...
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    Altough your right in some cases, pushing soc...

    Altough your right in some cases, pushing soc voltage above 1.15 could theoretical help, same goes for the mem voltages.
    But e.g in my case, with an mediocre IMC, and havet seen any advantes pushing...
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    Yeah probably right in that case, use HWInfo,...

    Yeah probably right in that case, use HWInfo,
    summary info >> ram >> should show xmp profiles and recommendations
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    I would not trust D.O.C.P to always work, use the...

    I would not trust D.O.C.P to always work, use the manual setting, and set the timings manual

    #1
    Download 'ryzen dram calculator' and carefully watch this video:
    This caluclator will give all the...
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    I agree on this, the voltages are insane on auto....

    I agree on this, the voltages are insane on auto.
    Also was expecting a new bios by now to adress this because the negative offset does nothing for me with PBO enabled

    Im using fixed voltage...
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    Just curious, do you ahve the "asus EC" module...

    Just curious, do you ahve the "asus EC" module loaded in, I turn this off because HWinfo said could lead to possile instability
    You can see its red / disabled in this screenshot

    74341
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    The only time I experience monitor switching of...

    The only time I experience monitor switching of or complete freeze is when I was testing the minimal vcore needed.

    when vcore on idle was to low, would ussualy freeze, cant move mouse anymore....
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    Depends, If you just use PBO overdrive with...

    Depends, If you just use PBO overdrive with scalar 10, you overclock will range something like this
    4250-4350 (if only using 2 cores)
    4150-4200 (using multiple cores)
    4050 when really stresing all...
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    so have this weird issue, 3266 with 4 dimms runs...

    so have this weird issue, 3266 with 4 dimms runs perfect, always

    3333 mhz all the same manual timings (excepts trfc values adjusted for its still 260 ns), fails when the computer is cool

    e.g...
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    Yeah HWInfo also shows that sometimes on my...

    Yeah HWInfo also shows that sometimes on my system, most likely false readings. Never really see it except in the max values
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    Im using prime95 and ram test (cost like 10...

    Im using prime95 and ram test (cost like 10 dollars but is a very good program)
    If I test with prime, I ussually test custom 512-4096 and use 26000mb of my 32 gig.
    will give HCI memtest also a go,...
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