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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf6666 View Post
    i have had the bios updated to the latest version (6001 even though its BETA) but it crashed just as much.
    i have had reset the mobo before i installed the bios...but i think my usb stick was ntfs and not fat32 and i also havent renamed the files to c6h.cap
    so i will try those again, just to see if its g2g
    will get back to u on results.
    Updating to version 6001 may not cure your issue. It should give you a better chance at getting the system to work though. 6001 was not isted as a beta version when it was released. 3502 is a very similar code, and that one is not in beta. I think 6001 was the final release code for the Ryzen + range of chips.

    I have seen a couple of posts for 6001 and 3502, where they state they have adjusted memory clock speed and then set the rest to default settings. But I would guess that is few and far between.

    The Hynix memory you have is the biggest bug bear for Ryzen systems. It does not work the same way as B die memory. Hynix will work with Ryzen, but many have issues getting it to run at the rated speed. And even then, it does not run as well as B die due to higher latencies. These higher latencies will be barely noticeable to you though. You need to run software to point out the differences really.

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    ok i will update the bios again like you mentioned before

    how can i know which memory will be the samsung b die...and not this hynix stuff...if this is not info placed in the specifications of ram when they sell it?

    also...how can i tell what speed to run my hynix ram at to keep it stable? (u mentioned i would have to run it on lower freq but wont notice the diff)

    so far its been stable on the vddp 0.885v on auto timings and freq....
    but i wouldnt rule out a crash just yet...since its happening randomly

    i tried reaching out to G.Skill to give me exact settings to run this ram so it doesnt have issues...but its been days now with no reply...

    i have a sneaking suspicion i should have stuck with corsair as a manufacturer...anyway

    i'll keep updating

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    Samsung b-die is guaranteed for hi speed / low latency modules like 3200@14, 3600@15, 3600@16 and faster. Mostly g.skill with only few exceptions.
    Example list here:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...nfusion_eg_on/

    You can check what chips are used in your modules with typhoon burner.
    VDDP is almost irrelevant. What are other more important settings like procODT, SOC voltage etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackBishop View Post
    VDDP is almost irrelevant.
    There was quite a major issue with earlier bios revisions, where memory that was tested to be stable at 800% on HCi memtest was creating a BSOD when running games. The fix was to hold the VDDP at 0.9v. On each bios revision I set mine to 0.885v, because it works, and to date it has never caused any issues. I have seen less stability when moving it to 0.9v or even 0.915v. Which is why I posted the 3 options. I believe on auto it hits around the 0.98v mark.

    But you are right in this case the OP needs to address his main timings for stability first, before looking for historical tweaks.

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    OK guys, im trying to use that DRAM calculator and the thaiphoon to get this done.
    BUT my bios shows my ram running @ 14-14-14-36 under AUTO
    should i leave it like that and run the thaiphoon and calculator OR should i first manually set the bios timings to what its written on the ram sticks? (ie. 16-18-18-38)?

    also...watching that video with the instructions from the overclocker.net link...it shows the guy:

    - selecting the memory type first
    - then selecting the memory rank
    - then he clicks on Auto HQ
    - then he clicks on Calculate safe (to im getting show the safe timings)
    - then he clicks on Calculate fast (again to show the results for fast timings)

    BUT here comes the confusing part:

    - he then clicks on Auto UHQ <-- which changed the results and same for the following 2 calculations....
    - and then on caculate safe again
    - and caulculate fast again

    im confused by this (at which point do i have to stop and input the numbers into my bios?)

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    First get typhoon burner and get dump of SPD data (in nanoseconds, not clock ticks) - save to file.
    Then import it to the tool to generate safe settings.
    Put values from calculator to BIOS.

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    HQ - High Quality
    UHQ - Ultra High Quality

    Example:F4-3600C16D-16GTZ would be high quality and F4-3600C15D-16GTZ would be ultra high quality

    Under bios 3008 my Rtt settings were different from the calculator's suggestions and under 6001 as well. That is why the calculator is used as a reference of sorts; a jumping off point.

    Write or print the calculator's results. After that point they can be input into the bios. What is used as a starting point is entirely up to you.

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    Hey guys, sorry for the delayed reply, i was away for a week.

    So i wanted to say a HUGE thank you to Syldon, BlackBishop and Clouseau for your help.

    I managed to run some stress testing before i left last week and so far so good. Its stable, altough i am getting random stutters where it seems everything freezes for a millisecond and then resumes (not just in games....in regular windows usage too - its noticeable when i play music)

    What worked for me was setting the VDDP voltage to that 0.885 and then i used the Typhoon Burner and Ryzen DRAM calculator to get the timings right. So again, i really really appreciate your help guys!

    Now i gotta go and try and figure out the intermitten mini-stuttering im getting.

    Cheers guys!
    Last edited by Beowulf6666; 03-26-2018 at 06:35 PM.

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