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03-19-2018 10:20 PM #1
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Time To Upgrade - SATA SSD or NVME M.2?
Well I need to get a bigger drive, and at present I have a Samsung 840 Pro & 850 Pro.
I've been doing a bit of reading online, and the benchmarks look impressive for the NVME M.2, but then I read real world usage, people aren't seeing a lot. Then there's the heat issues, throttling, lack of OS stability/compatibility, etc... Makes me wonder are NVME really ready for primetime... hmm
The 2 drives I've been considering;
SATA 850 Evo - 500GB
960 Evo NVME M.2 - 500GB
So far for the NVME, I've only been considering the 960 Evo, because from what I've read, compared to the Pro, it's a better deal...
Also I use Win7, but I've read, install the drivers with the OS running SATA, then backup/clone, shutdown, install NVME, install clone/backup, and boot into new system. Anyone know if this works smooth?
Last thought, is Samsung still the King for SSD, or any others I should consider?
THANKSLast edited by SlackROG; 03-20-2018 at 12:00 AM.
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03-20-2018 09:12 PM #2
av3nger PC Specs Motherboard Maximus IX Formula Processor i5 7600k@5.0 Memory (part number) Corsair Dominator 3200 Rog version Graphics Card #1 Asus 1080 ti ROG Sound Card Supreme FX Monitor Samsung 4k Storage #1 Samsung ssd 156gb Storage #2 Samsung ssd 1TB CPU Cooler Kraken x62 Case NZXT Phantom 820 Power Supply Corsair 850 watt Keyboard Corsair k95 Mouse Razer Mamba Headset Bowers and Wilkins PX Mouse Pad Firefly Razer Headset/Speakers Samsung sound bar OS Windows 10 Network Router ASUS ROG
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i cant really speak from personal experience, but a buddy got himself a M.2 drive on his new build. He is like me, just games wants things to be pretty and load quickly. He hasn't noticed any substantial difference between his old SSD. Which has caused me too look at pricing over anything else, and for $ to space ratio, i just went with a new 1TB SSD for the same price to a M.2 256gb
If you do a lot of file transfers it may be beneficial to get a M.2, but for gaming, not so much
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03-21-2018 12:58 AM #3
SlackROG PC Specs Motherboard Maximus VIII Hero Processor i7-6700K Memory (part number) Corsair LPX 16GB DDR4 2133 C13 Graphics Card #1 EVGA GTX 1060 06G-P4-6262-KR Sound Card Motherboard - Onboard Monitor MSI Optix G24C Storage #1 Samsung 850 Pro SSD 128GB Storage #2 Samsung 840 Pro SSD 128GB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U14S Case Fractal Design Meshify Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G3 Keyboard Kingston HyperX Alloy FPS Pro Mouse Kingston HyperX Pulsefire Mouse Pad Kingston HyperX OS Slackware 14.2 x64 & Windows 10 x64
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Yes the gaming aspects I know aren't much..
I guess I didn't ask, if anyone might know for compiling software there will be a difference?
I compile a lot in Linux and was considering the M.2, hoping it might improve compile times?
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03-21-2018 01:32 PM #4
av3nger PC Specs Motherboard Maximus IX Formula Processor i5 7600k@5.0 Memory (part number) Corsair Dominator 3200 Rog version Graphics Card #1 Asus 1080 ti ROG Sound Card Supreme FX Monitor Samsung 4k Storage #1 Samsung ssd 156gb Storage #2 Samsung ssd 1TB CPU Cooler Kraken x62 Case NZXT Phantom 820 Power Supply Corsair 850 watt Keyboard Corsair k95 Mouse Razer Mamba Headset Bowers and Wilkins PX Mouse Pad Firefly Razer Headset/Speakers Samsung sound bar OS Windows 10 Network Router ASUS ROG
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In that scenario a M.2 will indeed be the better option
i5 7600k 5.0Ghz--3200Mhz Corsair Dominator Platinum ROG Edition 16 GB-- Asus Maximus IX Formula--
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03-21-2018 10:14 PM #5
SlackROG PC Specs Motherboard Maximus VIII Hero Processor i7-6700K Memory (part number) Corsair LPX 16GB DDR4 2133 C13 Graphics Card #1 EVGA GTX 1060 06G-P4-6262-KR Sound Card Motherboard - Onboard Monitor MSI Optix G24C Storage #1 Samsung 850 Pro SSD 128GB Storage #2 Samsung 840 Pro SSD 128GB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U14S Case Fractal Design Meshify Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G3 Keyboard Kingston HyperX Alloy FPS Pro Mouse Kingston HyperX Pulsefire Mouse Pad Kingston HyperX OS Slackware 14.2 x64 & Windows 10 x64
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I guess the thing is, order the bloody thing and try and see...
Now, I'm concerned about heat, also as I mentioned I use Win7, and I've read install the drivers with the OS running SATA, then backup/clone, shutdown, install NVME, install clone/backup, and boot into new system, and this is suppose to work... So I need to make sure on this as well...
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03-22-2018 09:08 PM #6
just have a fan blow over it and it will be cool.
its like comparing to a CPU, the more load = the more heat.
i my self have a fan blowing across it.
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03-22-2018 10:00 PM #7
R5Eandme PC Specs Motherboard Rampage V Extreme/U3.1 Processor i7-5930K Memory (part number) Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK64GX4M8A2400C14 Graphics Card #1 MSI Geforce GTX 980Ti Sound Card Asus Essence STX II Monitor Acer B286HK 4K UHD Storage #1 Samsung 960 Pro 1TB NVMe Storage #2 Samsung 850 Pro 1TB SSD CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15S Case Cooler Master HAF 932 Power Supply Thermaltake TPG-1200M-F 1200W Keyboard Corsair K70 Cherry MX Brown Mouse Asus Sica Mouse Pad "And God said ... <Maxwell's equations> ... and there was light." OS Win 10 x64 Pro Accessory #1 Asus USB 3.1 A, StarTech USB 3.1 C PCIe adapters Accessory #2 Syba 1394A/B Firewire PCIe adapter PEX30009 Accessory #3 Asus OC Panel I
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Hi SlackROG,
How's Tux
My wife's old laptop has a 1TB Crucial MX200 SSD and my R5E has a Samsung 960 Pro 1TB, both Win10, and I don't see any difference in boot times. For copying large files, however, the NVME really screams or so it appears to me (see Samsung brochure attached). As far as temps, in Samsung Magician you can see the S.M.A.R.T. data and it shows the NVME temp at 28C whether idle or reading/writing (maybe it is a long-term average?). On the R5E it is behind the video card, but I have an HAF932 high airflow case. You probably won't regret getting an NVME boot drive, and if you don't you will lie awake at night wondering if you should haveThe Samsung firmware and drivers can be found here http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor...ownload/tools/
Good luck!Last edited by R5Eandme; 03-23-2018 at 12:11 AM.
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03-23-2018 03:13 AM #8
SlackROG PC Specs Motherboard Maximus VIII Hero Processor i7-6700K Memory (part number) Corsair LPX 16GB DDR4 2133 C13 Graphics Card #1 EVGA GTX 1060 06G-P4-6262-KR Sound Card Motherboard - Onboard Monitor MSI Optix G24C Storage #1 Samsung 850 Pro SSD 128GB Storage #2 Samsung 840 Pro SSD 128GB CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U14S Case Fractal Design Meshify Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G3 Keyboard Kingston HyperX Alloy FPS Pro Mouse Kingston HyperX Pulsefire Mouse Pad Kingston HyperX OS Slackware 14.2 x64 & Windows 10 x64
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@kkn I have 2x 140mm in the front of the case, so hopefully that's enough air flow...
@R5Eandme Tux is Rocking as always! You might have to change that Nick to --> Tuxandme
Yeah I better go for a 960 Evo and see how it goes, I'm sure compile times will be faster...
Thanks