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    Reading a past post you have R7 1800X, based on that, when you are doing:-

    Custom CPU Core Ratio [Auto]
    > CPU Core Ratio [39.00]

    The CPU will enter "OC mode", thus VID used will be 1.35V.

    Now if you set:-

    CPU Core Voltage [Offset mode]
    CPU Offset Mode Sign [-]
    - CPU Core Voltage Offset [Auto]

    It should still be 1.35V, if you change:-

    - CPU Core Voltage Offset [Auto]

    to say CPU Core Voltage Offset [0.00625], due using to using CPU Offset Mode Sign [-], it will result in ~1.344V VID.

    Next as you are using:-

    Memory Frequency [DDR4-3200MHz]

    And have:-

    CPU SOC Voltage [Offset mode]
    VDDSOC Offset Mode Sign [-]
    - VDDSOC Voltage Offset [Auto]

    Based on "auto rule" of UEFI the board will snap CPU SOC to ~1.2V. This is a "auto rule" not "auto determination" based on silicon characteristics, etc. IMO you would be better off using:-

    CPU SOC Voltage [Manual mode]
    - VDDSOC Voltage Override [1.00000]

    And then increasing as needed. I have used 5 differing Ryzen CPUs on same mobo, at default these CPUs had SOC of 0.875-0.925V. So I always start seeing what memory frequency above default I get with SOC of ~1V, then increase as needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VRBabe81 View Post
    Ever since I bought this board from the start the offset has been huge I mean my vcore on auto was 1.5v+ and my ram matched it when I changed any setting in the bios. I now have to offset my vcore to - and the cpu soc to - and dram to 1.275 in grey 1.35v with all bios updates. Anyway I've attached my latest bios settings. Thank you
    vcore auto is very high, same on myasus strix x470-F gaming

    I would expermiment with fixed vcore and LLC
    LLC will prevent vcore drop on high stress, or increase vcore on high load,
    dont set LLC on 5 if you vcore already has a high base value

    im using vcore 1.35 with LLC 3
    on idle the vcore is around 1.33 -1.341
    on very high stress its arrund 1.384-1.395

    Im using this with boost and not fixed multiplier:
    - performance enhance = profile 2
    - Tpu = 2
    - boost overdrive enabled
    - Overdrive scalar = 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post
    I have used 5 differing Ryzen CPUs on same mobo, at default these CPUs had SOC of 0.875-0.925V. So I always start seeing what memory frequency above default I get with SOC of ~1V, then increase as needed.
    Would it not be worth the OP's while, if you just dumped a txt output of your bios for him. You both have the same set up.

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    Thanks guys & girls for the suggestions oh and @Syldon I'm a her :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by syldon View Post
    Would it not be worth the OP's while, if you just dumped a txt output of your bios for him. You both have the same set up.
    I'd rather help OP learn how to use the board/UEFI based on what I can share.

    Currently I have a R7 1800X, set at 4.0GHz and 3400MHz C15. This kinda setup may not viable for her HW samples. So if I help/get her to provide more info we maybe able to assess what her HW can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post
    I'd rather help OP learn how to use the board/UEFI based on what I can share.

    Currently I have a R7 1800X, set at 4.0GHz and 3400MHz C15. This kinda setup may not viable for her HW samples. So if I help/get her to provide more info we maybe able to assess what her HW can do.
    I have 16gb 2x8 g.skill flare x ddr4-3200 dram at 1.27v
    F4-3200C14D-16GFX and
    ryzen 7 1800x @3.9ghz oc my other stuff are in my profile specs

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    ROG Guru: Blue Belt Array gupsterg PC Specs
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    In this ZIP is UEFI 6101, filename C6H.CAP. I would use Flashback method of flashing. In OP of this thread reference section FAQ > Using Flashback on C6H.

    I would totally advise against using my CMO files, but they are in ZIP.

    6101_Base_Profile.CMO = base profile as explained below.

    6101_T3200G.CMO = CPU stock, but some tweaks out of below list, RAM is 3200MHz Safe The Stilt, but TRC 44 and TRFC 256 (ie tighter).

    6101_4.0P_T3200G.CMO = CPU 4.0GHz with 3200MHz Safe The Stilt, but TRC 44 and TRFC 256.

    6101_4.0P_3333F.CMO = CPU 4.0GHz with 3333MHz Fast The Stilt.

    6101_4.0P_3400SC15.CMO = CPU 4.0GHz with 3400MHz but timings of The Stilt 3466MHz.

    I always set a "Base Profile" in UEFI. This will be what I:-

    • base all my OC profiles off of.
    • revert to if things go pear shape.


    My base profile will have:-

    On Extreme Tweaker page:-

    Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
    BCLK Frequency [100.0000]

    Core Performance Boost [Disabled]
    SMT Mode [Enabled]

    1.8V PLL Voltage [1.80000]
    1.05V SB Voltage [1.05000]

    Then on DRAM Timings Control:-

    Cmd2T [1T]
    Gear Down Mode [Disabled]
    Power Down Enable [Disabled]

    Then on Digi+ page:-

    VRM Spread Spectrum [Disabled]

    Next Tweakers Paradise page:-

    Sense MI Skew [Disabled]

    Then my base profile has fan profile, etc as I want, which a user really needs to set as they want. Only tip if on air cooling many over look is using the option:-

    Fan Smoothing Up/Down Time [Auto] I change to [3.8 sec] for all headers I use. This will mean for ~3.8 seconds the "bounce" ups and down of CPU temperature will be ignored, creating smoother/less yoyo of speed on fans.

    Once I have saved Base Profile I then OC.

    I prefer PState 0 OC method. VRBabe81 do you wish to use that or go for an OC via Extreme Tweaker page?
    Last edited by gupsterg; 05-05-2018 at 08:27 PM.
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    Cool Thanks for that and don't worry I won't use your .cmo files as I'll be sticking with bios 3502 as its stable with my oc. I won't be changing the values of:

    1.8V PLL Voltage
    1.05V SB Voltage

    Because I don't want to mess around with that so its on auto for the time being. I will dial in your cpu offset values and the cpu soc too also do some tweaking in digi+ but use manual oc by timings on the memory due to using presets caused system instability no offence to The Stilt :-)

    Thanks again Gup and others for your help and time


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    I'd opt to set PLL & SB voltage manually to 1.8V and 1.05V. Why I set voltages manually is so some "auto rule" does not change it unnecessarily.

    SOC at defaults tends to be 0.875-0.925V, usually 1V manually is good value to use for 3200MHz. My current CPU can sustain 3400Mhz with 1.031V in UEFI. I've had others that need more than that for 3333MHz.

    Your F4-3200C14D-16GFX are Samsung B die, single rank/sided and you are using one dimm per channel. This is the most favoured RAM setup for Ryzen.

    Your Flare X kit is using same IC and PCB as my Trident Z, only heatspreader difference. Some aspects of SPD data which are irrelevant in context of discussion. You should be able to use The Stilt presets.

    Happy to share testing methods I use. Perhaps try CPU OC on it's own first, then RAM OC and later combine both.
    Last edited by gupsterg; 05-05-2018 at 11:54 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post
    I'd rather help OP learn how to use the board/UEFI based on what I can share.

    Currently I have a R7 1800X, set at 4.0GHz and 3400MHz C15. This kinda setup may not viable for her HW samples. So if I help/get her to provide more info we maybe able to assess what her HW can do.
    My apologies I didn't mean to put you on a spot. My thoughts are if anyone takes the time to look at another bios txt output, then it should be done as a guide only. The silicon lottery prevents a one size fits all when trying to min-max.

    Quote Originally Posted by VRBabe81 View Post
    Thanks guys & girls for the suggestions oh and @Syldon I'm a her :-)
    I had guessed that much from your name usage. I have no idea why I wrote the pronoun him.




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