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    Quote Originally Posted by dfg555 View Post
    I've already played around with some BIOS settings including Depop, none helped. I'm currently decided between the high-end MSI X370 M7 ACK which has BIOS Flashback support without CPU so I can use my 2600X on that or the mid-range MSI B450 Carbon AC. I can get the X370 for cheaper so I think I'll go for that as it has more I/O than the B450.

    I don't really care which has better overclocking features, I just need something that has good support and VRMs for the CPUs till 2020.
    Both are solid choices. I was really impressed with my roommate's MSI X470 Pro Carbon board. That was almost my motherboard of choice as well, but the lack of negative voltage offset convinced me to go with ASUS. I now find myself looking at the ASRock X470 Taichi board, but at this point I might wait to see what's released in the Spring. Anyways, what really impresses me about MSI motherboards on the AM4 platform are the timely BIOS updates (cough cough) and the VRMs. MSI pretty much have the only boards worth considering in almost every price bracket under $200. Let me know what you wind up choosing, I'm curious to see how your experience is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcolawl View Post
    Both are solid choices. I was really impressed with my roommate's MSI X470 Pro Carbon board. That was almost my motherboard of choice as well, but the lack of negative voltage offset convinced me to go with ASUS. I now find myself looking at the ASRock X470 Taichi board, but at this point I might wait to see what's released in the Spring. Anyways, what really impresses me about MSI motherboards on the AM4 platform are the timely BIOS updates (cough cough) and the VRMs. MSI pretty much have the only boards worth considering in almost every price bracket under $200. Let me know what you wind up choosing, I'm curious to see how your experience is!
    I already ordered the MSI X370 M7 ACK and I filed a return on the ASUS X470-F for this audio issue, the retailer accepted the return claim so I have to wait for this MSI motherboard to arrive and replace the ASUS motherboard.

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    And now my mobo, rly asus?
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    Sorry for the late reply, anyway looks like i fixed my idle temps and also improved full load temps: CPU voltage negative offset -0.075 and SoC voltage 1.05 (dont think this one actually made any big difference but anyway everything seems to work so all good)... idle temps currently around 34-36 C° avg with a U14S, still jumps up and down but seems acceptable to me

    Thanks to @AlleyViper and @Alcolawl for helping, you saved ASUS from losing a customer

    Quote Originally Posted by AlleyViper View Post
    @TehNyo
    There's one thing I don't understand. When you leave PE Default but Core Performance Boost Auto, PBO all auto, Vcore Auto (or offset), Multiplier Auto, your CPU cant go over 3.7GHz even on low threaded loads? etc etc
    I tried this again: if i put default i can get 4.2Ghz on single core test, but all cores tests dont go above 3.7ghz... i assume this is normal?


    Quote Originally Posted by Alcolawl View Post
    That's totally up to you. I bought this motherboard for the same reasons as you (solid VRMs) but I have to say this might be my last ASUS motherboard. The lack of updates and just general uncertainty of whether or not this board will be supported a year from now is a big red flag for me. This is a solid motherboard, but when you see other manufacturers eclipsing ASUS in terms of support, BIOS, etc. it gets you thinking. etc etc
    I think ill stick with this ASUS mobo at this point (the best closest alternative would be ASRock Taichi (no Ultimate), hopefully ASUS wakes up with AMD mobos bios updates...

    The only reason i went high end mobo is for future AM4 CPU upgrade (the plan is to put Ryzen 4x00 CPU on this x470 STRIX), if ASUS wont update BIOS for that ill be very annoyed cause ill probably have to stick with 2700x but that will also learn me a lesson: never go ASUS again for AMD CPUs... so fingers crossed and hopefully everything goes as planned

    PS: once i am here, is there another software to manage mobo+RAM rgbs? ASUS Aura one services or whatever are using too much CPU (around 3%) when not even running, had to unisntall & delete
    Last edited by TehNyo; 12-02-2018 at 05:56 PM.

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    Welcome to Asus BIOS updates......or any other motherboard updates for products over 6 months old lol. Bought their boards for years and even though they seem to be pretty solid the update frequency and "Notes" are usually far behind everyone else. So best we can do is wait and see what they do or buy elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TehNyo View Post
    I tried this again: if i put default i can get 4.2Ghz on single core test, but all cores tests dont go above 3.7ghz... i assume this is normal?
    Glad you saw improvements with undervolting, works great with PBO. I guess that clock behavior should be expectable only if those all core loads are very high (stress testing, etc), I was afraid it couldn't even raise clocks on single/less threads by your description, as if stock PB was missing. I only have a 2600X to compare, so afaik clocks aren't affected so much given the almost similar tdp availble for 2C/4T less.

    Regarding bios updates, it bothers me more that the latest x470-I bios still doesn't have the WMI interface for monitoring. So when we finally get the 1.0.0.6 AGESA bios update, most probably we won't be getting that feature like the VII did in the past.
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    I'm not changing hardware very often. My previous setups where with asus maximus extreme x38, z77 sabertooth (change from msi z77 gd55). When i was changing hardware this time I got myself 2700x and strix x470-f gaming as i thought that i'm buying high end motherboard and i will get hight end support like with other two boards. But as i see it now you cen't go any worse than buing asus.

    For a brief time i had 2600x, msi x470 pro carbon system at home and i must say that bios support was way better agesa 1004 in july, 1006 7th of november. System was more stable, ddr4 was oc'ing higher (same b-die i have in my system), actuali only thing that made me buy asus was my good expierance with older boards (and lack of vcore offset in msi).

    But now i'm starting to think about selling strix and getting asrock taichi instead.

    I just checked all other x470 motherboards and all, even biostar on its chipset boards has agesa 1004 from like august.
    Last edited by ernorator; 12-03-2018 at 08:16 AM.

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    Bios 4204 released

    https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards...HelpDesk_BIOS/
    GOGOGOGO!

    Seriously though, I'm at work for a few more hours If anyone is able to flash this and try it out let us know how it goes. Very excited to see how things improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcolawl View Post
    https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards...HelpDesk_BIOS/
    GOGOGOGO!

    Seriously though, I'm at work for a few more hours If anyone is able to flash this and try it out let us know how it goes. Very excited to see how things improve.
    Version 4024
    2018/09/28

    Its same as 4018

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