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    Quote Originally Posted by cheehoou View Post
    hi,the parts number is PVR416G320C6K
    That's not in the QVL I'm afraid... http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...ration-cpu.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by AniChatt View Post
    Tiphoon burner is not newbie friendly if written spd accidentally it may soft break the ram resulting bigger problem.
    Yeah probably right in that case, use HWInfo,
    summary info >> ram >> should show xmp profiles and recommendations

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    Here is my RAM oc tips, before that in case of instability use 4008 bios. with few security patches 4011 has ram compatibility issues and fix are close to horizon,

    1. Don't use typhoon. It is not for newbies and it can soft break your ram if not used properly.
    2. Go to bios>advanced tab>tools>RAM SPD info and take the snapshoot of settings with any camera you have. Note that the the first 6 are most important and after that it is not quite significant but may be useful some cases.
    3. Try with default DOCP first. Apply it and stress test the ram with HCI memtest dangwang version for 300%+ coverage. This is the hands down the best sw to check your ram nothing else works better.
    4. if 3200 (your default spd oc profile) is not working then try to test a lower clock in default docp say 3066Mhz and test.
    5. If none of these works then you have to set the timing & volt manually as per spd info I have told before.
    6. Do not push more than 1.15v for soc (it is not required for almost any Ryzen cpu amd has made), better something around 1.10v.
    7. DO not push more than 1.40v for ram. Your XMP voltage will be mentioned in the kit webpage I believe it may be 1.35v. SO strat from that voltage.
    8. Last is VDRM voltage and it is half the ram voltage by design. Some times reducing this volt a little bit improves stability.
    9. ProcODT i.e. On-die termination a resistance is set to block a instruction signal from cpu, is default auto. You can test it from 40 to 60 ohm but don't give more than 60. Sometime helps but I have not found it really useful. Auto works just good for me.
    10. Ryzan DRAM calculator gives a bit more suggestion on timing. you may test with different timing in safe - fast - extreme performance category. but again not worked good for me.

    lastly the bottom line: Don't expect any performance gain from 2900+ Mhz up to 3200. It is simply intangible. So all of this suggestions is just for fun of overclocking. And if you have a decent Samsung B-die kit with 3200xmp then it is 98% chance that on any ryzen X series mobo it will hit rated clock with no to minimum tweaking.
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    Long time lurker, first time poster.

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    Latest BIOS Version 4011

    - G.Skill Flare X (2x8GB) 3200MHz overclocked to 3466MHz with 1.45v, auto soc v (which is 1.15) with the Stilts fast b-die timings for 3333MHz.

    - Ryzen 5 2600X overclocked to 4.2GHz 1.381v LLC Level 3 max temp under 100% load 70.3C on H115i 280mm AIO Watercooler fixed 1200rpm on Radiator Fans.

    - 1450 Cinebench score

    I also tested auto overclocking with performance enhancer level 3 but I personally didn't like it. Way to much unnecessary voltage even with precision boost overdrive + scalar disabled, allcore boost only to 4.15GHz and higher temperature. I could run 4.25GHz with 1.4v and Level 4 LLC since it was stable but didn't like temperature going over 70C under full load, that's the point where Ryzen gets unstable.

    I also have the blackscreen bug when I run Corsair Link and HWInfo at the same time while stress testing, so I just close Link when I want to use HWInfo and I'm fine, hopefully they gonna fix that soon.

    Other than that I'm super satisfied with this hardware.

    Feel free to ask any questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AniChatt View Post
    6. Do not push more than 1.15v for soc (it is not required for almost any Ryzen cpu amd has made), better something around 1.10v.
    7. DO not push more than 1.40v for ram. Your XMP voltage will be mentioned in the kit webpage I believe it may be 1.35v. SO strat from that voltage.
    This is simply not true, I can't stand people giving wrong information I'm sorry, for example on b-die you can safely push up to 1.5v for daily where as 1.45v is recommended. DDR4 doesn't produce much heat, heck people even running up to 1.9v for benching.

    SOC Voltage up to 1.2 safe max there are multiple AMD resources for that information even tho in my experience AMD CPU's just scale better with 1.1 - 1.15v as you already mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AniChatt View Post
    lastly the bottom line: Don't expect any performance gain from 2900+ Mhz up to 3200. It is simply intangible. So all of this suggestions is just for fun of overclocking.
    This is just plain nonsence... ofc there is performance gain ryzen just scales super well with faster memory.. fps wise you might not gain that much (between 5-10 fps) but compare 2900+ to 3466 which this motherboard supports and do some benching and you'll notice the difference in your scores and workloads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norman_87 View Post
    This is simply not true, I can't stand people giving wrong information I'm sorry, for example on b-die you can safely push up to 1.5v for daily where as 1.45v is recommended. DDR4 doesn't produce much heat, heck people even running up to 1.9v for benching.

    SOC Voltage up to 1.2 safe max there are multiple AMD resources for that information even tho in my experience AMD CPU's just scale better with 1.1 - 1.15v as you already mentioned.
    Altough your right in some cases, pushing soc voltage above 1.15 could theoretical help, same goes for the mem voltages.
    But e.g in my case, with an mediocre IMC, and havet seen any advantes pushing soc beyond 1.05 and ram beyond 1.365.
    using 4x8 gig dimms so lots stress on IMC.

    Anyway this was giving some tips to someone who has no experience in overlclocking, so setting extreme voltages is not where you start.
    ps some nice overclock on your mem there, im jealous
    Last edited by Orb79; 07-06-2018 at 09:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norman_87 View Post
    This is just plain nonsence... ofc there is performance gain ryzen just scales super well with faster memory.. fps wise you might not gain that much (between 5-10 fps) but compare 2900+ to 3466 which this motherboard supports and do some benching and you'll notice the difference in your scores and workloads.
    Really????? Can't disagree any more without solid evidence. Just post a video that you have gained 5+ fps in a CPU intensive game from 2900 to 3200Mhz. Also don't post similar, like many reviews where they have shown performance gain paring a GTX1080ti and at 1080p or 720p low result. Who has 1080Ti, will not put the game at low. So,
    1. First select some CPU intensive games like AC Origine, BF1, Watch Dogs 2, CB result
    2. Put your ram at 2900Mhz CL14 ( i mean same timing)
    3. Test it then repeat it again with 3200. Also do mention your specs for testing. let's see what is the result with Ryzen+ cpus.

    Getting old testing my ram from 2400Mhz to 3200 also 3333Mhz (not stable for my older 1600x) and ended with frustration why I have wasted my money buying a overpriced RAM (flareX). May be in some extreme case I am doing something wrong. What I have seen is the game performance gain is less than 2fps for CPU intensive games like AC Origin. Again Cinebench result also showing worthless improvement (<20 point as per I remember). I game at 2560x1080 resolution since I own a 1080 and I will not even consider if there is any improvement on ram speed at lower res and lower setting. The only improvement I have seen is the AIDA RAM benchmark result. Beside that SIMPLY NOT WORTHY IMPROVEMENT. I REPEAT!!!

    Beside there is a long thread named Asus Strix B350-F Gaming Issues where I have posted my memory scaling results and had confirmed with other users if they have similar performance gains or not and found conforming results. You are the first user I have seen has claimed upto 10fps gain WOW!!!
    So lets dig deep into it Shall we? I will be happy to learn how I can gain up to 10 fps with ram OC!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by norman_87 View Post
    DDR4 doesn't produce much heat, heck people even running up to 1.9v for benching.

    SOC Voltage up to 1.2 safe max there are multiple AMD resources.
    Point 1: Please don't post what enthusiasts are doing since most of the users who are following this thread have very little or no idea what can go wrong when you start to increase voltage above a certain limit. Yes I do agree and have read few post where people are claiming to set 1.50v on ram. At this point I would suggest you to read a post related to asus crosshair VI hero where they have thermal imaged the board during stress test and show the hottest part of the board is not the CPU vrm but the RAM chokes which remains +52C but have not mentioned what voltage and oc the ram are that time. I am not saying this not to tell it is unsafe but you have to learn properly not only for the RAM but also for the entire system when you are pushing to much voltage to a particular component. Again Crosshair has two phase design for RAM and this board has 1 phase (as per my info and not found any detailed vrm analysis) so be careful with your 1.5+ volt.

    Point 2: The soc voltage. Check this, https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3...h-safe-voltage Very funny title "how to kill cpu with safe voltage
    They have done a detailed analysis on CPU/SoC voltage and specially the difference between actual vs sensor reading. I have not seen anything better than this. They have pointed out that 1.15v will be the best max soc to gain best possible result and yes you can go up to 1.20 safely but it is less likely that you would need this much.

    Lastly I have recommend for majority of the people and not for the enthusiast or the silicon lottery winners. Overclocking involves risk and if any one is not knowledgeable enough to know what to check during a overclock except the voltage and temp of CPU/RAM they might get into trouble with recommendations like "people even running up to 1.9v" or "1.5v safe". Because you may have great understanding but not for others so it is better to recommend something more safe to play with. Moreover an enthusiast will figure out this any way by testing.

    O last of all correct me if I am wrong.... I always appreciate healthy debate..
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    Does anyone have the Gskill 16GB F4-3000C15D-16GTZR ? The QVL shows F4-3000C15D-8GTZB, but this is a 2x4GB Kit Samsung, but it also shows F4-3000C16D-16GTZR, that is a SK Hynix. Will i be able to run at least 2933Mhz ? Or it's better to buy the 2400Mhz module that is made for ryzen (GTZRX)?

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