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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosslhs82 View Post
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    Please fix the 5204 bios for those of us still running gen + cpu's. We should've lost any performance or be having the ram issues that are going on
    Or give us a way to revert back to earlier bios versions safely.
    The 4602 version was very stable for my 2600x and G.skill flare x 3200 but now i can't even get 3266 without errors or Bsod's.
    You may have something wrong with software or bios, check carefully, I have the same device and memory overclocked and everything is working correctly.

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    So could using ez flash from within the bios using dhcp make the difference?
    I was thinking of doing it manually with a usb and ez flash to see if would be any better.
    What chipset drivers are you using?
    I have tried before and after 3000 series release drivers and couldn't get any difference in ram settings.
    Thank You for the post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SexySale85 View Post
    Yes, Stock + PBO On (+200Mhz).

    Can you please share your RAM hardware, so I can compare differences? Is it same as mine?

    Also, I noticed you don't have the same settings as mine regarding ProcODT and CAD BUS in image and RAM voltage in post.

    If it's same, I suggest starting with GDM: Enable and 1.425V.
    Also, follow all my settings as they are all listed in Ryzen Master (same are in DRAM Calculator), then you play with tightening it.
    Please be sure to follow all from my image and train memory on start with smaller iteration in voltage like:
    1. 1.35V 3200 Mhz
    2. reboot
    3. 1.4V
    4. reboot
    5. Then setups your memory tighter

    GL
    Hey thanks man, I am using the same G.Skill ram kit as you and I actually just managed to post with tighter timings using your voltage training tip, weird but it works. https://i.imgur.com/s4AoSix.png

    DRAM is at 1.45 for now as recommended by Ryzen Dram calculator but not sure if it's really needed, also had to keep GDM enabled as when I tried setting disabled it BSOD several times on win bootup.

    Stability not yet tested. What program do you suggest?

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    Anybody running a problem with the 5204 BIOS on the X-470F not displaying NVME drives on the Storage Screen on the BIOS?

    Can boot off the NVMe drive just fine though, just doesn't display on the BIOS screen. I also have the FAN RAMP UP problem during boot / POST as well.
    Last edited by gdaswani; 08-12-2019 at 08:19 PM.

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    Mine has never displayed my 970 evo but shows my crucial mx500.
    No problem with fans. 2600x here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SadSoldier View Post
    Hey thanks man, I am using the same G.Skill ram kit as you and I actually just managed to post with tighter timings using your voltage training tip, weird but it works. https://i.imgur.com/s4AoSix.png

    DRAM is at 1.45 for now as recommended by Ryzen Dram calculator but not sure if it's really needed, also had to keep GDM enabled as when I tried setting disabled it BSOD several times on win bootup.

    Stability not yet tested. What program do you suggest?
    Excellent

    Follow my settings from DRAM Calculator and my settings from Ryzen Master, read names and compare to BIOS.
    All settings in RAM on Ryzen Master are also on BIOS, however, please don't force it too much as you need experience with this if something goes "sideways".
    Also, you will not have much gain in gaming with forcing.

    My suggestion is to find a sweet spot from DRAM Calculator on 3600 Fast preset first, then go 3733 if you like. 3600 is much stable.

    My recommendation for testing is TestMem 5 with 1usmus profile also you can use RAM Test 1.1.0.0 but it's paid. Also, you may use MEMbench from Dram Calculator with the explanation here

    Don't go over 1.45V for daily usage if you don't have a fan over RAM (I have one). You are enough 1.425 or 1.43 for 3600 and 3733 tight, but you have to experiment as I did. Go timings and procODT first from DRAM calculator, leave GDM to enable and reduce voltage until you have errors in test or BSOD, then you revert back to +0.05 V previous working.

    TLDR:;
    1. Setup 1.45V and fast preset for 3600 from DRAM Calc.
    3. test
    4. Go -0.005V (1.445V),
    5. test
    6. If ok, go -0.005 (1.44V)
    7. test
    8. repeat until the error in test or BSOD, then revert to the previous stable.

    When you find best 3600, you can try 3733 with the same approach with mine setup from the previous post and find your stable.

    P.S. Don't go 3800 it's causing stuttering on our board and Ryzen 3000.
    Last edited by SexySale85; 08-12-2019 at 10:11 PM. Reason: TLDR

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    Whats your CPUs boosting too?

    Was wondering what your 3rd gen Ryzens were boosting to on the strix boards. depending on load I'm getting the following:
    PBO w/200mhz+

    Cinebench-4.125ghz all core
    Prime95- 4.150ghz all core
    Gaming- 4.275-4.325ghz varying all core

    Highest random peaks I've seen are 4.430-4.450ghz which all core have hit at one time or another.

    When trying an all core OC i was able to getCPU prime95 stable at:
    CCX0-at 4.350ghz
    CCX1-at 4.325ghz
    @ 1.41v

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosslhs82 View Post
    So could using ez flash from within the bios using dhcp make the difference?
    I was thinking of doing it manually with a usb and ez flash to see if would be any better.
    What chipset drivers are you using?
    I have tried before and after 3000 series release drivers and couldn't get any difference in ram settings.
    Thank You for the post.
    I use amd chipset drivers v1.07.29.0115 from the amd page, I would recommend that you deactivate the docp of the ram memory and put it in auto and set the vcore-soc to 1.15v manually; Set the memory to 3200mhz, and manually adjust the timmings as indicated by the memory xmp, the voltage of the memory at 1.35v, apparently if you activate the docp, and change the frequency, it does not always apply the soc voltage correctly, test First resetting the bios, uninstalling the drivers, and then applying the changes, do not forget to activate the pbo in both sections of the bios, I use a vcore offset of -0.087v for my cpu, I don't think it has anything to do with the way You update the bios, good luck, I do not use any special refrigeration, a simple hyper 212evo in an NZXT phantom 630 cabinet is enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmak View Post
    Check your frequency, I am guessing it is not throttling down or often, its an issue for me too, but I use five powershell commands to fix it, make sure you are on the balanced plan and do not have performance all the way up in the W10 slider:

    Powercfg.exe -setacvalueindex scheme_current sub_processor PERFINCPOL 2
    Powercfg.exe -setacvalueindex scheme_current sub_processor PERFDECPOL 1
    Powercfg.exe -setacvalueindex scheme_current sub_processor PERFINCTHRESHOLD 70
    Powercfg.exe -setacvalueindex scheme_current sub_processor PERFDECTHRESHOLD 50
    Powercfg.exe /setactive scheme_current

    You can set the 70 and 50 to something you are more comfortable with, but what this does is increases the checks to increase or lower the processor frequency, and then tells it to only go up to max at 70% on a core, and drop back down a state when under 50, then the last line "sets" it. This will only change it for the power plan you are currently on. Before I had it my CPU would stay at 4350 (2700x) and 45-50C, never downclocking or lowering the voltage. Now it stays around 40-29C depending on activity and constatnly lowers the voltage.
    Yes your right my frequency stays around 4300 and hardly ever throttles down. how and where do i input those commands?

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    use amd chipset drivers v1.07.29.0115 from the amd page, I would recommend that you deactivate the docp of the ram memory and put it in auto and set the vcore-soc to 1.15v manually; Set the memory to 3200mhz, and manually adjust the timmings as indicated by the memory xmp, the voltage of the memory at 1.35v, apparently if you activate the docp, and change the frequency, it does not always apply the soc voltage correctly, test First resetting the bios, uninstalling the drivers, and then applying the changes, do not forget to activate the pbo in both sections of the bios, I use a vcore offset of -0.087v for my cpu, I don't think it has anything to do with the way You update the bios, good luck, I do not use any special refrigeration, a simple hyper 212evo in an NZXT phantom 630 cabinet is enough.


    Thank You i will look into all what you advised.
    I still think Asus should have tested the 5204 update more to see what the effects would be to the gen + series.
    On the 4602 bios i had great performce with my ram @3400 fast using r d calc and a cinnabench R15 score of 1440 to 1462 with xfr and pbo.
    If the bios was only for the 3000's and not the 2000's then it should have been properly labeled as such.
    Thank you again I will try those settings and get back when i get back home.

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