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    Well, I've found out the cause of the changed lows and highs of the frequency of the CPU.
    Although the latest Chipset Drivers -recommended for BIOS 4406, did not install anything, as it found everything up to date,
    it managed to change the powerplan of the system. AMD Ryzen Powerplan was causing the 2900-4200 "limitation".
    Set the powerplan to "Balanced" and the 2100-4300 returned.

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    ryzen balanced will set minimum cpu state @90% afaik.
    win10 balanced uses 5%.

    edit: a bit of info about win10 balanced vs ryzen balanced:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...levant/eclsig7
    Last edited by Topfn; 03-10-2019 at 04:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topfn View Post
    ryzen balanced will set minimum cpu state @90% afaik.
    win10 balanced uses 5%.

    edit: a bit of info about win10 balanced vs ryzen balanced:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...levant/eclsig7
    Yes indeed.
    By using 'Ryzen Balanced' with a 6% 'Minimum CPU Frequency' was the same as 'Balanced', in terms of lows/highs, but also with the gift of no parking the idle cores.

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    What I have noticed, is that the vcore vid is lower, before with everything in automatic, had readings of 1.46v with offset of -0.087v, now never exceed 1.406v, and the fast profile of the fans is arranged easy in the configuration of the bios, and that I have a hyper 212 evo push-pull and does not make noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timiman View Post
    Yes indeed.
    By using 'Ryzen Balanced' with a 6% 'Minimum CPU Frequency' was the same as 'Balanced', in terms of lows/highs, but also with the gift of no parking the idle cores.
    Many other parameters are different, and these were set to cause higher and quicker clock raises under less thread occupancy to make Ryzen1 more responsive under the old thread scheduler. On a Ryzen+ these settings vs the regular balanced profile can actually hinder top clocks when there are just a few threads in full occupancy, because those under less use will be consuming more power, due to raising clocks more often under little stress and avoiding a very quick switching C6, even if minimum cpu clock is lowered to the same 5% on the profile. This is the reason the ryzen balanced at 90% was good for ryzen1, and regular balanced is now preferable for ryzen+ on a daily scenario.

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    Windows balanced is working as intended since RS4 or 5. Not sure.
    I do get better gaming performance with windows balanced (2600x) - so I don't even install ryzen balanced anymore.

    If somebody wants to dig deeper and compare power plans, there's a tool called "PowerSettingsExplorer".
    It's also very useful if you want to (un)hide parameters within windows energy settings.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorcav123 View Post
    I pressumed Than we ll have to wait for the end of this month. I hope they will release this time and not like the last time when they told me that BIOS will be released in January.
    Do you recommend we install this BIOS or wait for the one at the end of the month?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casta13 View Post
    Go to Advanced and then AMD CBS.
    Thanks, just in time for the new BIOS!

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    There have been some reports of added latency on this agesa, other than PBO problems. I'd hold the update for now without a 3000 series requiring it.
    link1 link2
    Soon this update should land for the VII, and then extensive testing about these changes should pop.

    Also, @timiman, you might check under a heavy prime load or cinebench what power your cpu is using under hwinfo. Your problem with higher clocks with the Ryzen Balanced Power plan could be related with a reported forced 125-130W cinebench cap that wasn't present before (on the older agesa bios) under PE1 (IIRC this preset should use 150W) or PE2 (no cap) in one of the linked threads, only setting it higher again under ryzen master solved this issue.
    Last edited by AlleyViper; 03-12-2019 at 04:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex0915 View Post
    Do you recommend we install this BIOS or wait for the one at the end of the month?
    Your choice. I will wait for fully tested BIOS, I hope they are teling truth this time about release date

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