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    Quote Originally Posted by rchiwawa View Post
    Unfortunately for me, BIOS 2304 borked setting the PWM for waterpumps so that is a no-go so far as I am concerned. It seems like 2406 is pretty ****ed in its own right but I can do just fine with keyboard only. Is 2406 otherwise stable and fully configurable?
    Yes, it's stable, but you can't reach "optimize all" for fans without a mouse. I had to use AISuite III/FanExpert IV and it's built in calibration, not excellent though as it adjusted my CPU Fan to go down to Zero rpm in low temp. Caused boot issue *bip**bip**bip* "no cpu fan present"! I had to adjust the curve manually to remove Zero rpm.

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    Right on, xeizo,I run my fans at a steady state for all load scenarios. Can I go into the Monitor tab -> "Whatever they call the manual define section selectable at the bottom of the page" in BIOS and manually key in desired PWM/ current without running the optimizer? If you don't know off hand I'll get to reloading 2304 later in the day. I had one BigBox local confirm they have stock in hand even though their website doesn't acknowledge 3k SKUs existence and another all but declared the same. So before I queue up or set the alarm to spam the F5 key on a couple of windows until I can buy online I will have be loading a compatible BIOS anyway.

    Other than the mouse issue, is there anything else actually wrong with 2406 or was that enough to have everyone revert?

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    ROG Guru: Orange Belt Array xeizo PC Specs
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    From multiple sources so is "all" bioses from all vendors bugged with current AGESAs. Apparently so have this launch been rushed, I kinda expect X570 boards to be bugged to. It's the prize for running the latest and the greatest. If you're not about to jump on a Ryzen 3000, earlier bios versions are far better for this board.

    The word is, from the creator of Ryzen Dram Calculator, that there will be a AGESA 1.0.0.6 from AMD shipping to board vendors late July which will be free of most of the issues. So, I don't expect my CH7 to be fully stable with a Ryzen 3000 until sometime in August, if Asus keeps up with the AGESAs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
    From multiple sources so is "all" bioses from all vendors bugged with current AGESAs. Apparently so have this launch been rushed, I kinda expect X570 boards to be bugged to. It's the prize for running the latest and the greatest. If you're not about to jump on a Ryzen 3000, earlier bios versions are far better for this board.

    The word is, from the creator of Ryzen Dram Calculator, that there will be a AGESA 1.0.0.6 from AMD shipping to board vendors late July which will be free of most of the issues. So, I don't expect my CH7 to be fully stable with a Ryzen 3000 until sometime in August, if Asus keeps up with the AGESAs.
    I found my best throughput and latency with 1201 and only every tried 2304 because I figured it would take a few revs to get it remotely passable... past experience talking there. Aside from the waterpump PWM being stuck at 100% I found my latency went up 3ns for the same 3400MT and 14-14-14-14-28-42 timings with similar throughput.

    I suspect you're right. I really want to get a hold of a 3700x for my Louqe Ghost S1 build on a b450-i but the bios revs for that board, although in the 2ks never stated support for new CPUs and they didn't see the same corresponding increase in size on boards that had Zen 2 (well, "new CPU support"). The 3900x sooner vs later would be nice but the 2700x is dialed in and sufficient

    Thanks again.

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    2406 bugged

    Quote Originally Posted by rchiwawa View Post
    Unfortunately for me, BIOS 2304 borked setting the PWM for waterpumps so that is a no-go so far as I am concerned. It seems like 2406 is pretty ****ed in its own right but I can do just fine with keyboard only. Is 2406 otherwise stable and fully configurable?
    2406 seems otherwise stable so far. I did have the BIOS freeze on me when using the keyboard to change settings just after the flash update and soft reboot, and then it seemed to reboot twice on cold boot before entering Windows, but nothing seems borked upon actual bootup. Cinebench score within normal range, no crashes.

    I'm have 2700X with 3000hz RAM, SVM enabled, LED & RGB off except LED error code, AI Overclock to DOPC standard, Performance Enhancer level OC3

    I flash with every release for security and best mitigations (retpoline, etc). Never had a mouse quit working on previous releases. Look forward to the fix in a month or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingRamze View Post
    2406 seems otherwise stable so far. I did have the BIOS freeze on me when using the keyboard to change settings just after the flash update and soft reboot, and then it seemed to reboot twice on cold boot before entering Windows, but nothing seems borked upon actual bootup. Cinebench score within normal range, no crashes.

    I'm have 2700X with 3000hz RAM, SVM enabled, LED & RGB off except LED error code, AI Overclock to DOPC standard, Performance Enhancer level OC3

    I flash with every release for security and best mitigations (retpoline, etc). Never had a mouse quit working on previous releases. Look forward to the fix in a month or so.
    Well, if this:

    https://www.overclock.net/forum/11-a...hread-676.html

    means what I think it means, RAM is going to be restricted to 2133 on any given board until it has a BIOS with AGESA 1.0.0.3AB, my sincere hop that there is something out just as soon as the NDA lifts. Waiting the standard Asus holding period has gotten quite old and I swear by God and his sonny, Jesus, I will finally break rank and buy ASRock for my own personal board next time around. I made the list that will close out this post the other day of the Asus boards I have had. I am done with the terrible support. If I am not paying for "loss-leader" staffing like BIOS engineers with my premium priced boards, why not go elsewhere if the hardware is up to snuff?

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    ROG Guru: Orange Belt Array xeizo PC Specs
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    So, now it's confirmed Ryzen 3000 needs at least AGESA 1.0.0.3AB to be able to run as intented. AGESA 1.0.0.2 as in this bios(2406) includes lockdowns from AMD. In example locked down memory OC for Ryzen 3000. Why did Asus release this bios just two days ahead of launch? They could have waited a few days and have had a proper 1.0.0.3AB bios ready instead. Duh!

    Anyway, I have a 3800X on the way, will probably replace with the 3950X later this fall. 3900X feels kinda broken to me with it's shut down cores. I went with the 3800X instead, because of it's generous TDP vs actual consumption.

    BUT, myself and many with me needs this 1.0.0.3AB bios before we have our CPUs delivered.

    BTW, someone said BIOS Flashback would fix the mouse issue in the current bios. I tried, it didn't. But, 1usmus has said: this or next bios, whatever bios fully ready for Ryzen 3000 MUST be installed using BIOS Flashback to be fully functioning with Ryzen 3000.

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    I can say my mouse is borked too with 2406, i tried normal bios update through bios and even bios flashback made my Asus Gladius in bios useless... Any solution or jsut wait for another...
    I set bios by keyboard no problem but it shloud be okay...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
    So, now it's confirmed Ryzen 3000 needs at least AGESA 1.0.0.3AB to be able to run as intented. AGESA 1.0.0.2 as in this bios(2406)...

    BUT, myself and many with me needs this 1.0.0.3AB bios before we have our CPUs delivered...
    Thanks for confirming that AGESA rev in 2406. I had a strong feeling it was not 1.0.0.3AB, whatever was in there, and decided to skip the lines ordered up my processors on Newegg and set delivery for 3 days in the vain hope that we'll have a proper AGESA rev and a fully functioned BIOS available at that time. My second 3k series chip is for an ITX build on a Strix b450-i and although the BIOS revs for it mimic other 400 series board numbers, it never saw the same bump up in BIOS size and never once for any revision has Asus mentioned "support for new CPU" or an AGESA revision associated with Matisse. I have my doubts about them having their **** together for that board any time soon and it breaks my heart and might force me to just spend the money on an ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX TB3.

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    Ok then. I just downloaded the new bios, Chipset driver and sata driver. Guess I will not be updating the BIOS at the moment. Is the new Chipset driver okay to update? Also, what's usually the order? BIOS then Chipset, or the other way around? Guess it won't matter, since I'm not updating BIOS atm.

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