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09-04-2018 04:24 AM #1
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New System Performance Disappointing.
Hey everybody. I'm gonna try to be as clear as possible in describing the help I need. Its going to be a long one so I appreciate everyone's patience. Its a couple of things actually..
I recently built a new system to better enhance my Oculus Rift experience while sim racing. However my experience hasn't been very impressive so far. My new rig specs>
Windows 10 Pro 64bit
Intel i7 8700k (No OC)
Asus Maximus X Code Z370
Asus ROG STRIX 1080ti OC (NO OC)
Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 4x8GB DDR4 3200Mhz (XMP)
Corsair H115i Pro RGB
Samsung 970 EVO NVME M.2 500GB (BOOT)
Asus ROG RaidR Express 240GB pCIE SSD
Various other HDDs
The issues I'm having are simple. I cant run the same graphics settings in my VR sim titles as I could with my old system. I have to lower them or performance really suffers or the headset freaks out.
My boot times suck compared to my old Sata SSD even though the NVME M.2 is in the main slot and is set up as "pCIE" in the UEFI. That could be windows related so I followed a Win 10 Performance Optimization tutorial and turned a bunch of unnecessary stuff off....nothing changed.
Old system specs>
Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
Intel i7 4790k (No OC)
Asus Maximus 7 Formula Z97
Asus ROG STRIX 1080ti OC (NO OC)
Corsair Dominator Platinum 4x4GB DDR3 2400Mhz (XMP)
Corsair H100i
Corsair Force GT 240GB Sata SSD (BOOT)
Asus ROG RaidR Express 240GB pCIE SSD
Various other SSDs and HDDs
In search of the possibility of leaving something out I didn't see any Intel CHIPSET drivers installed although I remember installing them...I think
I went to the product page for my mobo and when I really look at it I'm a bit confused. I wanted to simply download the latest CHIPSET drivers but I came across this as being the most recent download available in the CHIPSET section "Intel ME V11.7.0.1045 driver"
Then below that is>
"Intel_Chipset_10.1.1.45" & "Intel Chipset V10.1.1.45". Below that looks to be older versions of the first two....however some are abbreviated?
I downloaded both most current drivers. That was confusing in itself as there were so many different folders and different setup.exe but I think I got the correct ones. However, when I look in my control panel at my installed programs, besides my Intel LAN driver I only see this from Intel. "Intel Management Engine Components"
Does that include the Intel CHIPSET drivers?
I tried to install the "Intel VGA driver" and got an error msg saying my system didn't meet the specs for that driver..Does the 8700k not have HD graphics built in? I never really looked into it.
Finally , Why dont they have USB 3.0 drivers for this motherboard? Is Win 10 capable of auto downloading the most current drivers for my USB 3.) ports?
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09-04-2018 06:47 AM #2
1) Need more info on the performance issues. For instance, do the games stutter or are you having a consistently lower framerate than on the older system?
2) NVME boot times are generally slower than conventional storage devices, but they make up for this in the day to day use, so it should really make no odds if rational about things.
3) Yes, you've installed the chipset drivers. If unsure, use the identification utility to download the latest version - https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/.../software.html
4) Yes, see here - https://downloadcenter.intel.com/dow...product=126684
5) USB 3.0 support is now native to the OS
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09-04-2018 02:59 PM #3
Nate152 PC Specs Motherboard ROG Strix Z690-F Gaming WiFi Processor i7-12700KF Memory (part number) Kingston Fury Beast 16GB (2x8GB) 6000MT/s (KF560C40BBK2-16) Graphics Card #1 ROG Strix 3090 Ti LC OC Sound Card ROG SupremeFX Monitor HP ZR30w Storage #1 Seagate Firecuda 530 1TB CPU Cooler EK Quantum Velocity2 Case Thermaltake Tower 900 Power Supply EVGA Supernova 1600 T2 Keyboard ROG Falchion NX / Strix Flare II/Azoth Mouse ROG Chakram X/Chakram Core/Spatha X/Harpe Ace Headset ROG Delta S Animate Mouse Pad Steelseries Prism XL / ROG Scabbard II/Hone Ace OS Windows 11 Home Accessory #1 2x Swiftech Maelstrom X300 D5 V2 Accessory #2 2x Hardware Labs SR2 560 MP radiators Accessory #3 Lamptron FC-5 V3 fan controller
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I tried the oculous rift for a while with the Strix 1070 and performance was good. Now, granted this isn't a racing sim I would still expect good performance from a 1080 Ti.
Something that might help is connecting the displayport cable to the second Strix 1080 Ti displayport output.
Last edited by Nate152; 09-04-2018 at 04:36 PM.
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09-05-2018 02:06 AM #4
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I was originally trying to run with the same settings as I did with my old system but its not working out. With the new system In my VR titles it has been low framerates, lag and some issues with the image getting jittery and blurry after fast movement like spinning a car out. Id have to do a full system restart to get it to go away. It would follow me from the game to the Oculus Home app.
Lowering super sampling in Project Cars 2 from 1.7 to 1.5 has seemed to stop that particular problem. However I'm having to lower the settings in pCars 2 even further to get it to run smooth.
I haven't got around to testing all my games. I did try GTAV and had so much lag in the settings menu I had to quit. It was so bad I almost had to do a ctrl>alt>del. My graphics settings in GTAV are the same as they were with my old system. Almost everything maxed out at 1080p.
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09-05-2018 03:34 AM #5
Mr. Fox PC Specs Laptop (Model) - NA - Motherboard EVGA Z690 Dark K|NGP|N Processor Intel Core i9-13900K Memory (part number) 32GB SK Hynix M-Die DDR5 @ 6800 Graphics Card #1 EVGA RTX 3090 K|NGP|N Monitor Predator XB271HU 2560x1440 165Hz CPU Cooler MO_RA 360 Radiator +1/2 HP Water Chiller Case Thermaltake Level 20 XT Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA P2 1600W Keyboard EVGA Z15 Mouse Luminosa Mouse Pad Black Anodized Aluminum Headset/Speakers Logitech Z506 5.1 Speaker System OS W10 Ent LTSC 2019 / W7 Ultimate (Dual Boot) Accessory #1 Hailea HC-500A 1/2HP~790Watt Water Chiller
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Try using only the drivers on the installation CD that came with the motherboard. Run the setup from the CD and select all of the drivers (but not all of the extra software).
Try using a GeForce driver that was released from between January to March of this year. If your system runs better at that point, just try updating only the GeForce driver. See if that messes it up. If not, stop right there. Pursuing the newest drivers if the system is working fine isn't a good idea. The latest is often not the greatest.
The Intel VGA driver doesn't install because the integrated graphics is disabled by default. You cannot install the Intel VGA driver unless you go into the BIOS and enable the crappy integrated graphics on the 8700K. Don't bother. It is pointless and there is nothing to be gained by it.Wraith // EVGA Z690 Dark K|NGP|N | 13900K | RTX 3090 K|NGP|N | 32GB DDR5 | SuperNOVA 1600 P2 | HC-500A Chiller | MO-RA3 360 || Level 20 XT
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09-09-2018 05:22 AM #6
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09-09-2018 06:28 AM #7
I wouldn't even use super sampling, if I'm honest. You're effictively trying to run the game at almost twice the resolution. I would be tempted to install a dummy OS and see if the problem persists. You can also try running latencymon to see what process is causing the lag hike, potentially.