Broadwell E users watch out for Windows 10 KB4100347 update

[Korth]

I do not allow Windows Update filth on my systems. The "security" is not important enough to put up with their endless supply of utter nonsense.

A few days ago I made the mistake of leaving Windows Update enabled and that same effed up KB4100347 cancer code from Micro$lop really screwed up my 7960X performance.

That's where I was with WinXP. Then Vista. Even after methodically killing processes, deleting files, hacking the Registry, applying all sorts of clever secrets learned from the pro IT guys at work. And by all accounts things got worse in subsequent WinOS versions, Win8 was notoriously full of Microsoft "telemetry" (spyware and malware), Win10 is even more infamous and treacherous.

Rollback to older WinOS when you must. Install a linux for everything else. Or even just try out some "LiveUSB" distros without needing to do a fixed install.
The choice is inevitable and the day is already coming for you, lol, why keep swearing at Windows and why keep putting off the alternatives?

[Mr. Fox]

That's where I was with WinXP. Then Vista. Even after methodically killing processes, deleting files, hacking the Registry, applying all sorts of clever secrets learned from the pro IT guys at work. And by all accounts things got worse in subsequent WinOS versions, Win8 was notoriously full of Microsoft "telemetry" (spyware and malware), Win10 is even more infamous and treacherous.

Rollback to older WinOS when you must. Install a linux for everything else. Or even just try out some "LiveUSB" distros without needing to do a fixed install.
The choice is inevitable and the day is already coming for you, lol, why keep swearing at Windows and why keep putting off the alternatives?

I've used Linux off and on for at least 10 years, probably longer. Linux Mint is my favorite. The UI has a polished look and feel to it that reminds me a lot of Windows 7, and setting up Linux has never been easier than it is today. It has come a very long way in a short time. I like it just fine as an ordinary basic OS for stuff like web surfing and email, but find it too restrictive to realize any joy in using it. Being a PC gamer for 20+ years, (since the beginning,) and then morphing into an overclocking/benching addict over the last 10 years, Linux has nothing to offer me in terms of my main hobby. It's absolutely worthless for what I enjoy most.

In the past year or two, gaming on Linux is finally gaining some serious traction and isn't nearly as crappy as it has been for as long as I can remember. But, gaming is something I spend little time on any more. I still like it, but not as much as I used to and my interest is limited to FPS titles. But Linux gaming is almost to the point now that I could probably get by as a happy gamer running Linux as my only OS. If not yet, it is definitely getting close to that point, thanks to the amount of focus Steam has devoted to making it successful.

I totally get what you're saying and almost completely agree with it, except for the part that moving to Linux exclusiely would ultimately mark the death of what I love most about computers... overclocking and benching. There is just nothing there because Linux developers aren't into my hobby. Linux development is their hobby, LOL. Really basic overclocking and tuning tools are all but non-existent and the few I have seen that do exist totally suck. Same is true of benchmarking software.

Linux is definitely a better OS than Windows 10. The restrictiveness associated with using it really sucks. Most of the software for Linux sucks. Free is a good price, but you get what you pay for to some extent. If I decide to give up oerclocking and benching some day, I may kick Windows to the curb for good. Micro$haft definitely deserves to be left behind for giving us nothing but garbage from Windows 8 forward. The move to an atrociously butt-ugly cartoon UI, with a bloated look and feel with crappy UWP apps and the tiled "Modern" motif is more than enough reason to loathe Windoze OS X, LOL.

I do still love Windows 7 and will continue using it until there are no longer any drivers available to make it work. "Micro$loth support" is totally worthless, so I don't care about that and their support has zero bearing on my willingness to continue using it. I dual boot with Windoze OS X only because Fire Strike scores higher on Windows 10 and DX12 is required for Time Spy and I need those benchmarks for HWBOT points. Windows 7 pretty much rapes Windoze OS X in all other benchmarks.

So, ultimately you may be right. Unless they make drastic changes to the path they are on--definitely won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen--there probably will be a day of reckoning when I am no longer willing to accept any more of the filth from the Redmond Retards. I'm just not sure what I will do at that point. I may just stop caring about computers and spend my time and money on something else. I may end up with nothing but a junky little $300 piece of crap laptop with Linux for web browsing and email because I truly hate using smartphones and tablets for that purpose.

[Caipirinha]

You try boot on any live Linux distribitions with old Kernels(for example Debian 7) and check overclocking frequncy via Bash:lscpu | grep MHz?

https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cd...me-desktop.iso

hi i never used linux

[Caipirinha]

I had a huge issue with this update too and tried EVERYTHING. I didn't know if it was the update, but you guys confirmed it. Finally, I found something that worked.

For some reason, the CPU multiplier is limited to defaults. If you move it past the defaults, the OS will move it back to defaults. However, when you up the Bus / Strap, you can still overclock within that initial multiplier range.

So for example, on my 6900k, CPU won't overclock past 37x on 100mhz strap no matter my BIOS settings. But when I up my bus to 125, I can use 36 multiplier and get 4.5ghz. This seems to be the only limit. Checking all of my hardware monitors so far, and the multiplier seems to be the only limit. I am totally unfamiliar with overclocking on 125 bus, but everything is stable right now after stress testing and I was even able to increase my OC from 4.4 to 4.5 (not as a result of the update, just as a result of me messing with my OC for the first time in forever).

So if you want a work around, you'll have to up your strap to 125 or whatever you choose. My OC works fine for now, but holy ****, they should have sent us a ****ing warning. What a waste of time.

hi Mine wasnt able to be overclocked with any any configuration played with 125 bus and all other settings NOTHING WORKED and anything other than DEFAULTS 2133 ram and 3.6 CPU the system didnt even turn on and have no idea how it did worked for you with 125 bus as u say i think u must have deleted the kb4100347 , in guru3d no one reported what u mentioned and everyone was oc blocked completley by the microcode update

[Caipirinha]

Most people dont like to OC using bus due to it messing with other hardware and can cause things not to run right, we shouldn't have to use bus OCing to fix something the updates shouldn't brake something, I let it slide with the KB4100347 but the 1809 update is also doing this and this is unsatisfactory, Asus and/or Windows needs to fix this issue I'm not going to spend this much money on something and not be able to use the features that I'm suppose to have.

THATS WHAT IM MAD ABOUT NOW AND NOW IM ON GURU3D MICROCODE DISCUSSION JOIN ME THERE >
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/ne....423031/page-5
Asus and intel and microsoft should DO SOMETHINGG WE ARE WAITING THEY SHOULD SOLVE THIS ISSUE FOREVER i cant install the new win 10 october update because of this Crapp update because its Integrated into newer OS VERsions alreadyy and getting rid of it is just able by removing a dll file from system32 and with any windows 10 feauture update or sfc scan and newer builds it just comes back again and thats SH1T

ASUS DEVS ATTENTION HERE >>>> HELP US

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yeah win-7 hasn't gone anywhere still most stable version ever as long as one culls through updates that is but it's a lot easier to do in 7.
Still over a year left of extended support I've never left it
It's always been a daily driver
10 is nothing but a toy which is mostly one of those annoying toys

[Caipirinha]

A few days ago I made the mistake of leaving Windows Update enabled and that same effed up KB4100347 cancer code from Micro$lop really screwed up my 7960X performance. My BIOS setting for the core ratio was being ignored (not syncing all cores) and only Core #0 was overclocking to the 51x value I set. The other 15 cores would only run 42x. I could override it temporarily in Windows with XTU, TurboV Core or AI Suite. Sometimes I had to change and apply core ratio values 2 or 3 times before it would take. It really was driving me nuts. I finally just said screw it and diskparted the SSD and restored my Windows 10 Enterprise 2016 LTSB image with no updates allowed and it instantly restored proper functionality. Uninstalling that update did not help.

But, it's all back to normal now. I've never cared about the "security" update crap, and now I care even less. No way I am sacrificing functionality just because an extremely remote risk exists. Crossing the street is dangerous, and so is driving and flying in an airplane. Just not worth losing any sleep over. I'm more than happy to take my chances with the digital baba yaga rather than allowing my CPU performance to be impaired.

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WOW JUST WOOWW matee i cant believie this is just happened even to a x299 Platform Holly coww Claps for Intel and microsoft WOWW congratulations Intel u finally scrwed up and cock-blocked overclock YOUR x299 LATEST Extreme platform EVENN TOOO
and this is intersting to know that for your Snario Removing the update HASNT WORKED !!!!!!!!!!!! and you just had to reinstall win10 2016 and in that case it worked (because in My case uninstaling/reinstalling the windows 10 1803 didnt worked and i had to just remove the micorocode by removing the kb4100347 update ( i didnt try installing win 10 2016 to see if it solves or not) )

and Dude i have to inform you that their "security" excuse is A HUGE LIE BIGGER THAN THE EARTH IS FLAT, this has been just an intel attack to its extreme platforms to force them buy Upcoming CPU AND PLATFORMS and they dont give sling fuk to their users and how much they have paid and our wallet

[Caipirinha]

Hi,
Yeah win-7 hasn't gone anywhere still most stable version ever as long as one culls through updates that is but it's a lot easier to do in 7.
Still over a year left of extended support I've never left it
It's always been a daily driver
10 is nothing but a toy which is mostly one of those annoying toys

and im here trying hard to clean install the NEW win 10 october version 1809 and im afraid to do so Because it has the microcode crapp update within it which ruins a
2000+$ cpu/mb overclockings WOW

[Caipirinha]

That's where I was with WinXP. Then Vista. Even after methodically killing processes, deleting files, hacking the Registry, applying all sorts of clever secrets learned from the pro IT guys at work. And by all accounts things got worse in subsequent WinOS versions, Win8 was notoriously full of Microsoft "telemetry" (spyware and malware), Win10 is even more infamous and treacherous.

Rollback to older WinOS when you must. Install a linux for everything else. Or even just try out some "LiveUSB" distros without needing to do a fixed install.
The choice is inevitable and the day is already coming for you, lol, why keep swearing at Windows and why keep putting off the alternatives?

this is not the way you solve big issues Really ?!!!! LiveUSB Windowses? wow
We want our OVERCLOCKED SYSTEMS WITH THEIR FULL POTENTIAL and NON-NERFED on New Windows 10 FALL Creators update and all upcoming versions and builds and newer windowses and Any Other OSes.

[panzlock]

and im here trying hard to clean install the NEW win 10 october version 1809 and im afraid to do so Because it has the microcode crapp update within it which ruins a
2000+$ cpu/mb overclockings WOW

Why would you pay so much money for that???