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09-17-2018 12:31 PM #1
Rob W. PC Specs Motherboard Rog Asus Rampage vi extreme Processor Intel i9-7980x Oc 4.6ghz 24/7 Memory (part number) 64 gb GSkill 3600mhz (8x8) 15,15,15,35 Graphics Card #1 nvidia Titan V + ekwb custom loop Graphics Card #2 nvidia RTX 2080Ti on air. Sound Card onboard? Monitor IAsus PA329Q 4k 32" Storage #1 samsung SSD 960 EVO 250 GB. M2 nvme Storage #2 Samsung ssd 970 evo 500gb m2 nvme CPU Cooler EKwb custom loop Case Corsair Obsidian 900 Power Supply Corsair HX1200i 1200w Keyboard Logitech G910 orion spark Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus core OS Win 10 Network Router bt infinity super fast. Accessory #1 Seagate Barracuda 2 TB HDD Accessory #2 Aqeuaro 6xt fan controller Accessory #3 Intel Optane 280gb
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Question’ two gpu’s in same rig.
Is there a problem in having a Titan v and a 2080ti in the rig at the same time, ?
*reason I ask is I would like to bench both cards individually on the same platform but without having to swap the loop to do it.
I think pcie slots 1 and 2 both work at 16x? So I could just use switches on mobo to disable the one not being tested, to my knowledge I think both slots should give same performance but please correct me if I am wrong!
It looks also that both cards would use the same driver version.
Any thoughts on this?
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09-17-2018 12:40 PM #2
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Got to make sure the mobo you're going with is going to have enough space. I'm unsure of the clearance with TitanV, but the 2080Ti is 2.75 slot. I wanted to replace one of my 1080Ti's with a 2080Ti, but it won't fit in this z370-F setup. The x2 1080Ti's are already kissing with a 2.5 slot clearance.
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09-17-2018 01:18 PM #3
Korth PC Specs Motherboard ASUS X99 R5E (BIOS2101/1902) Processor Haswell-EP E5-1680-3 SR20H/R2 (4.4GHz) Memory (part number) Vengeance LPX 4x8GB SS DDR4-3000 (CMK32GX4M4C3000C15) Graphics Card #1 NVIDIA Quadro GP100GL/16GB, 16xPCIe3, NVLink1 (SLI-HB) Graphics Card #2 NVIDIA Quadro GP100GL/16GB, 16xPCIe3, NVLink1 (SLI-HB) Sound Card JDS Labs O2+ODAC (RevB), USB2 UAC1 Monitor ASUS PG278Q Storage #1 Samsung 850 PRO 512GB SSDs, 4xSATA3 RAID0 Storage #2 Comay BladeDrive E28 3200GB SSD, 8xPCIe2 CPU Cooler Raijintek NEMESIS/TISIS, AS5, 2xNH-A14 Case Obsidian 750D (original), 6xNH-A14 Power Supply Zalman/FSP ZM1250 Platinum Headset Pilot P51 PTT *modded* OS Arch, Gentoo, Win7x64, Win10x64 Network Router Actiontec T3200M VDSL2 Gateway Accessory #1 TP-Link AC1900 Archer T9E, 1xPCIe Accessory #2 ASUS/Infineon SLB9635 TPM (TT1.2/FW3.19) Accessory #3 ASUS OC Panel I (FW0501)
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I'm not as certain that both x16 slots would give identical performance.
One of them is simply closer to the CPU than the other. It has shorter physical and electrical lengths. Which might translate into lower signal losses or latencies. So I expect that ASUS may have hardwired or firmcoded this slot in a more preferential way ... after all, multi-GPU setups usually put most of the load on the primary GPU anyhow.
But then again ... you can use PCIe extenders and risers, apparently with surprising lengths, and still have little measurable loss in actual performance.
The most comprehensive way to answer this question would be to test both cards, then swap and test again ... lol, the answer would be interesting but this approach sort of defeats the reason you even ask the question."All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others." - Douglas Adams
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09-17-2018 01:25 PM #4
Menthol PC Specs Motherboard M 10 Apex / XI gene Processor 8700K / 9900K Memory (part number) 2x8 Gskill Trident Z 4266/2x2x8 Gskill Trident Z 4500 Graphics Card #1 RTX 2080ti / GTX 1060 Sound Card SoundBlaster Ae5 / Onboard Monitor BENQ 32" 4K Storage #1 Intel 900p 480GB/Samsung 960 Pro 1TB Storage #2 Intel 750 1.2TB/Plextor 1 TB 2X 950 Pro CPU Cooler Corsair H150i AIO / H1110i Case Corsair 740 ? Lian Li Air Power Supply Corsair AX 1200i / AX 1200i Keyboard Corsair Mouse ASUS Strix Headset HyperX Cloud Alpha Mouse Pad ASUS Headset/Speakers Logitech Z906 OS 10 X64 Pro Network Router Verizon Fios Accessory #1 Intel Wifi BT pcie card Accessory #2 Red Bull Accessory #3 English Breakfast Tea
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09-17-2018 01:26 PM #5
Rob W. PC Specs Motherboard Rog Asus Rampage vi extreme Processor Intel i9-7980x Oc 4.6ghz 24/7 Memory (part number) 64 gb GSkill 3600mhz (8x8) 15,15,15,35 Graphics Card #1 nvidia Titan V + ekwb custom loop Graphics Card #2 nvidia RTX 2080Ti on air. Sound Card onboard? Monitor IAsus PA329Q 4k 32" Storage #1 samsung SSD 960 EVO 250 GB. M2 nvme Storage #2 Samsung ssd 970 evo 500gb m2 nvme CPU Cooler EKwb custom loop Case Corsair Obsidian 900 Power Supply Corsair HX1200i 1200w Keyboard Logitech G910 orion spark Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus core OS Win 10 Network Router bt infinity super fast. Accessory #1 Seagate Barracuda 2 TB HDD Accessory #2 Aqeuaro 6xt fan controller Accessory #3 Intel Optane 280gb
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Both will have EK water blocks , Titan on water is single slot, 2080ti should be reduced to that as well, it’s the stock coolers that boost there size, as to the case**airflow and space not a problem ( obsidian 900d case) .*
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09-17-2018 01:52 PM #6
Rob W. PC Specs Motherboard Rog Asus Rampage vi extreme Processor Intel i9-7980x Oc 4.6ghz 24/7 Memory (part number) 64 gb GSkill 3600mhz (8x8) 15,15,15,35 Graphics Card #1 nvidia Titan V + ekwb custom loop Graphics Card #2 nvidia RTX 2080Ti on air. Sound Card onboard? Monitor IAsus PA329Q 4k 32" Storage #1 samsung SSD 960 EVO 250 GB. M2 nvme Storage #2 Samsung ssd 970 evo 500gb m2 nvme CPU Cooler EKwb custom loop Case Corsair Obsidian 900 Power Supply Corsair HX1200i 1200w Keyboard Logitech G910 orion spark Mouse Logitech G502 Proteus core OS Win 10 Network Router bt infinity super fast. Accessory #1 Seagate Barracuda 2 TB HDD Accessory #2 Aqeuaro 6xt fan controller Accessory #3 Intel Optane 280gb
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that’s what my concern was Korth, wether there would be degradation between slots.
Still as I’m waiting for the Titan to be repaired and I haven’t got the 2080ti yet so it’s all a bit hypothetical.
I agree it would be interesting to swap them between slots ( a lot of work ) to compare but was hoping to avoide that scenario,
Still you have aroused my interest now so I will probably try it just to see!*
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09-17-2018 02:56 PM #7
Korth PC Specs Motherboard ASUS X99 R5E (BIOS2101/1902) Processor Haswell-EP E5-1680-3 SR20H/R2 (4.4GHz) Memory (part number) Vengeance LPX 4x8GB SS DDR4-3000 (CMK32GX4M4C3000C15) Graphics Card #1 NVIDIA Quadro GP100GL/16GB, 16xPCIe3, NVLink1 (SLI-HB) Graphics Card #2 NVIDIA Quadro GP100GL/16GB, 16xPCIe3, NVLink1 (SLI-HB) Sound Card JDS Labs O2+ODAC (RevB), USB2 UAC1 Monitor ASUS PG278Q Storage #1 Samsung 850 PRO 512GB SSDs, 4xSATA3 RAID0 Storage #2 Comay BladeDrive E28 3200GB SSD, 8xPCIe2 CPU Cooler Raijintek NEMESIS/TISIS, AS5, 2xNH-A14 Case Obsidian 750D (original), 6xNH-A14 Power Supply Zalman/FSP ZM1250 Platinum Headset Pilot P51 PTT *modded* OS Arch, Gentoo, Win7x64, Win10x64 Network Router Actiontec T3200M VDSL2 Gateway Accessory #1 TP-Link AC1900 Archer T9E, 1xPCIe Accessory #2 ASUS/Infineon SLB9635 TPM (TT1.2/FW3.19) Accessory #3 ASUS OC Panel I (FW0501)
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For reference, I submit Linus's experiment ... the TL;DR summary is that he plugged extenders into extenders (including some "janky old" extenders of dubious reliability) until he hit stability limits and crippling fps losses somewhere around 3.0 metres ... so apparently a few centimeters makes little difference ... but that still doesn't rule out motherboard/firmware optimization choices, I don't think ASUS implements a "T-Topology" counterpart into their PCIe slots.
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09-17-2018 04:53 PM #8
For sake of consistency, I would benchmark both of them independently.
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09-17-2018 10:21 PM #9
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09-18-2018 12:40 AM #10
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Ive dont this. My results were everything defaulted to the slowest card.