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04-30-2021 12:09 AM #21
RobertoSampaio PC Specs Motherboard Maximus XII Formula Processor i9 - 10900KF - SP86 - 56x4 - 55x6 - 54x8 - 53x10 Memory (part number) 2X - KHX3733C19D4/16GX - 4100MHz Graphics Card #1 Gigabyte RTX-3080 GAMING OC Monitor LG-34GL750 - 144Hz CPU Cooler Corsair H115i - Pro 280mm Case Corsair Graphite Series 780T White Full-Tower Power Supply Corsair HX 1000i - 1000W Keyboard Corsair k90 Vengeance Mouse Corsair Scimitar Elite OS Windows 10 Pro - 21H1
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Look this SP 48...
V/F8=1.603V
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11-06-2021 01:40 AM #22
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11-30-2021 03:03 AM #23
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SVID Behavior: Trained
I'm new to overclocking. Running an i9-10900K with ASUS Rog Strix Z490-e motherboard.
I noticed setting SVID behavior to "Auto" results in an AC/DC LL of 0.66mOhms/0.66mOhms. Setting SVID behavior to "Trained" results in 0.66mOhms/1.1mOhms. If I understand Shamino's post correctly, I think the latter setting would result in higher voltages being requested from the controller, and possibly lead to more cases of VmaxStress. Seems like it is best to have the AC DC LL values the same and thus I should keep SVID behavior set to Auto?
I have VmaxStress and TVB Voltage Optmizations enabled with +1 boost profile.
Max vCore I saw in HWInfo64 was 1.359v for 5.4Ghz. Max VID was 1.421V for 5.4Ghz.
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11-30-2021 11:56 PM #24
Nate152 PC Specs Motherboard ROG Strix Z690-F Gaming WiFi Processor i7-12700KF Memory (part number) Kingston Fury Beast 16GB (2x8GB) 6000MT/s (KF560C40BBK2-16) Graphics Card #1 ROG Strix 3090 Ti LC OC Sound Card ROG SupremeFX Monitor HP ZR30w Storage #1 Seagate Firecuda 530 1TB CPU Cooler EK Quantum Velocity2 Case Thermaltake Tower 900 Power Supply EVGA Supernova 1600 T2 Keyboard ROG Falchion NX / Strix Flare II/Azoth Mouse ROG Chakram X/Chakram Core/Spatha X/Harpe Ace Headset ROG Delta S Animate Mouse Pad Steelseries Prism XL / ROG Scabbard II/Hone Ace OS Windows 11 Home Accessory #1 2x Swiftech Maelstrom X300 D5 V2 Accessory #2 2x Hardware Labs SR2 560 MP radiators Accessory #3 Lamptron FC-5 V3 fan controller
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Hi rfkicker2000,
Setting SVID Behavior to Best Case Scenario might yield better results, but what you have actually looks quite good.
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12-01-2021 02:04 AM #25
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Thanks Natel52! Forgot to mention the 10900k I have is SP 79 and I'm using LLC4 as recommended by the BIOS. All loadline settings are on Auto. Also, those VID and vCore readings were at idle. Any particular stress test I should run to get voltages under load? I'd prefer not to run Prime95 for very long since temps hit 90-95C during the test. I have a CoolerMaster ML360R cooler which gets a cooler score of about 160 in BIOS.
If not seeing or only occasionally seeing vmaxStress as an IA limit reason, is there reason to be concerned with that?
Windows will not boot with SVID Behavior set to 'Best Case Scenario', likely because the silicon quality isn't good enough for that low of a voltage.Last edited by rfkicker2000; 12-01-2021 at 02:07 AM.
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12-01-2021 02:07 PM #26
Nate152 PC Specs Motherboard ROG Strix Z690-F Gaming WiFi Processor i7-12700KF Memory (part number) Kingston Fury Beast 16GB (2x8GB) 6000MT/s (KF560C40BBK2-16) Graphics Card #1 ROG Strix 3090 Ti LC OC Sound Card ROG SupremeFX Monitor HP ZR30w Storage #1 Seagate Firecuda 530 1TB CPU Cooler EK Quantum Velocity2 Case Thermaltake Tower 900 Power Supply EVGA Supernova 1600 T2 Keyboard ROG Falchion NX / Strix Flare II/Azoth Mouse ROG Chakram X/Chakram Core/Spatha X/Harpe Ace Headset ROG Delta S Animate Mouse Pad Steelseries Prism XL / ROG Scabbard II/Hone Ace OS Windows 11 Home Accessory #1 2x Swiftech Maelstrom X300 D5 V2 Accessory #2 2x Hardware Labs SR2 560 MP radiators Accessory #3 Lamptron FC-5 V3 fan controller
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I'm not familiar with your newer cpu or motherboard so I can't really comment on VmaxStress. I also use Hwinfo64 and from the author he says, " VmaxStress may clip the frequency if the effective maximum voltage on the silicon is too high."
I thought maybe setting SVID Behavior to Best Case Scenario might lower the VID value. Since it wouldn't boot, auto looks to be working well for you. Vcore of 1.359v as you know is the voltage supplied to the cpu, VID of 1.42v is the requested voltage, this looks fine and nothing to worry about.
LLC helps with Vdroop or voltage overshoot. I use Hwinfo to check the maximum Vcore under load, and compare it to what cpu voltage I set in the bios to see they are at or very close the same, if overshooting too much I'll lower LLC. I use LLC 6 for my 7700k, I set 1.44v in the bios and it will fluctuate from 1.440v (current) up to 1.456v (maximum), I'm ok with that.
Your cpu doesn't seem to be throttling at idle, not sure if this is intended. You have a good cooler and it seems to be doing well. I like ROG Realbench for a stress test, it loads the cpu to 100% without hitting it as hard as Prime95 and should give you lower temps. Here's the link if you want to give it a try, click Download Realbench in the center of the page.
What does maximum Vcore/VID and temp go to?
https://rog.asus.com/rog-pro/realbench-v2-leaderboard/
Here's my Hwinfo, click the picture to make it bigger.
Last edited by Nate152; 12-01-2021 at 10:24 PM.