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01-19-2019 06:52 AM #11
JustinThyme PC Specs Laptop (Model) G752VY-DH72 Motherboard Rampage VI Extreme Processor I9 9940X Memory (part number) 64GB DDR4 8x8 Corsair Dominator Platinum 3800 MHz @ C17 Graphics Card #1 ASUS Strix 2080Ti O11G @ 2.1GHz Graphics Card #2 ASUS Strix 2080Ti O11G @ 2.1Ghz Graphics Card #3 ROG Nvlink Graphics Card #4 Have to feed animals Sound Card External Audioengine D1 24 bit 192kbps DAC Monitor ASUS PG348Q @ 100Hz Storage #1 Intel 905P 480GB U2 flavor Storage #2 Samsung 850 EVO 1TB X2 in RAID 0, 960 PRO 1TB DIMM.2_1 CPU Cooler HeatKiller IV PRO and VRM blocks ,Dual D5 PWM serial, 2X 480, 1X 360 RADS Case Phanteks Enthoo Elite 8X LL120 PWM, 3X LL140 PWM, 12 SP120 PWM 1x AF140 PWM Power Supply Corsair AX 1500i Keyboard ASUS Claymore Mouse ASUS Spatha, Logitech MX Master Headset Sennheiser HD 700 Mouse Pad ASUS ROG Sheath Headset/Speakers Audioengine A5+ with SVS SB-1000 Sub OS Win10 Pro 1809 Network Router NetGear NightHawk X10 Accessory #1 NetGear Prosafe 10GBe Switch Accessory #2 Qnap TVS-682 NAS modded with I7 CPU
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The OP tried the Bitspower, looks OK but a ghost too. I found one at a microcenter but couldnt get two. Im not a fan of it. The block itself is OK, doesnt have the restricter at the input to the channels though so Im thinking thats probably a performance hit. Techpowerup did a review on the Byski blocks and it wasnt favorable, about 5-6C drop in thermal performance on the VRMs. Barrow just released blocks and I have two on the way, be here Monday. I thought they looked like EK knock offs but I got educated.
Performance PCs had 3 left when I bought up two of them so one left!! They are much more cost effective than the EK as well. PPCs said that EK and Watercool have both been promising delivery and its not happening. ATM they said EK pushed back to mid February and watercool is looking like late March or April. As much as I wanted to do the heatkiller blocks they arent worth waiting that long for as two of these even in a large case dumps some serious heat!!
Techpowerup comparison EK to Byski on 1080Ti
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/...1080_Ti_Strix/
Thermal take has one out too
https://www.ttpremium.com/product/pa...plus-asus-rog/
The chokes circled is whats stopping from being able to use a reference cooler. Dont know why they turned them 90 degress like that
Im not sure why EK and Heatkiller are so late to the party. This is costing them a ton in sales and promoting sales for others as these cards are becoming more avaialble
https://www.nowinstock.net/computers...dia/rtx2080ti/
EDIT, Barrow production is junk, dont buy it!Last edited by JustinThyme; 01-30-2019 at 06:01 PM.
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01-19-2019 01:55 PM #12
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Yeah I agree, don't know what's keeping them. What about the backplate? I haven't seen any for the Strix
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01-20-2019 10:31 AM #13
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It seems like the 2080Tis are hotter than the 1080Tis...
I have my ROG Strix 1080Ti OC overclocked to the max possible (2085/6100) and the temperature never exceeds 38C with a room temperature of 20C (can't stand more) and no more than 40-41C with a room temp of 26C in the summer.
This is with a Phanteks block which is not the absolute best performer (2-3 degrees higher) but its quality is amazing. I am using an External MO-RA3 radiator with 9X Corsair ML140 Pros spinning at 500rpm pulling air from the coldest brick wall int the room.
I have not tested a 2080Ti and don't plan to do so anytime soon since I am not playing many games but that might change since my son is eyballing my 1080Ti so......Asus Rampage VI Extreme | i9-7940X | 64GB Trident Z RGB 3600 | Asus Strix 1080Ti OC | Samsung 960 Pro 512GB | WD Gold 10TB | WD Red 4TB X 2 | PSU Corsair AX1500i | Custom Water Loop - RAD MO-RA3 420 Pro | EK Monoblock | Phanteks GPU Block | Heatkiller 200 Tube RES | EK Dual D5 Revo Pumps | 9 X Corsair ML 140 Pro Fans on RAD | | Bitspower Fittings Black Chrome | Cooler Master Cosmos 2 Modded Case | Silent WIngs 3 120mm Intake |
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01-28-2019 07:35 AM #14
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01-28-2019 08:05 AM #15
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01-30-2019 03:50 AM #16
JustinThyme PC Specs Laptop (Model) G752VY-DH72 Motherboard Rampage VI Extreme Processor I9 9940X Memory (part number) 64GB DDR4 8x8 Corsair Dominator Platinum 3800 MHz @ C17 Graphics Card #1 ASUS Strix 2080Ti O11G @ 2.1GHz Graphics Card #2 ASUS Strix 2080Ti O11G @ 2.1Ghz Graphics Card #3 ROG Nvlink Graphics Card #4 Have to feed animals Sound Card External Audioengine D1 24 bit 192kbps DAC Monitor ASUS PG348Q @ 100Hz Storage #1 Intel 905P 480GB U2 flavor Storage #2 Samsung 850 EVO 1TB X2 in RAID 0, 960 PRO 1TB DIMM.2_1 CPU Cooler HeatKiller IV PRO and VRM blocks ,Dual D5 PWM serial, 2X 480, 1X 360 RADS Case Phanteks Enthoo Elite 8X LL120 PWM, 3X LL140 PWM, 12 SP120 PWM 1x AF140 PWM Power Supply Corsair AX 1500i Keyboard ASUS Claymore Mouse ASUS Spatha, Logitech MX Master Headset Sennheiser HD 700 Mouse Pad ASUS ROG Sheath Headset/Speakers Audioengine A5+ with SVS SB-1000 Sub OS Win10 Pro 1809 Network Router NetGear NightHawk X10 Accessory #1 NetGear Prosafe 10GBe Switch Accessory #2 Qnap TVS-682 NAS modded with I7 CPU
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Not rumor, from a reliable source that reps both blocks. My jaw hit the floor too and I questioned it and was provided with enough proof to satisfy my inquiry. Will see when EK block hits the market this time as Barrow already produced one. Crappy delivery but theirs is out so they could not have copied EK. Your assumption was also mine as thats the first thing I said that the barrow looks like an EK knock off. I was wrong, it was the inverse. Not saying that EK didnt take a design and do it better, just that the original design was indeed Barrows that has been around on the Asian market well before EK was founded. Barrow started up in 1983, EKWB 21 years later in 2004.
I can say first hand that Barrow blocks are indeed made from inferior materials and the craftsmanship is poor at best. That doesnt change the primary designs that have been bought more than once. Not saying it happens with all of them but it does in fact happen. Im not going to divulge the source as that would be unethical as it was a conversation between two people and could cost them their job.
Ill lay very good odds from more sources that an EK block doesn't happen in 3 days. They haven't published any date and best info from reputable sources that works with them is mid February at the earliest. A direct inquiry a week ago was replied with "We plan on making one but no vailable dates, watch the news page for a release. Watercool had Available in Jan 2019 up on their pages for a few months. Just a few days ago they changed it to February.
I tried the barrow, design looks good except for one major flaw where the Nvlink bridge cant be fitted due to the placement of the G 1/4 terminal. The plating was cheaply done and no cuts or drill and tap points were even deburred, I bled on one of the blocks.
Right now round two Phanteks blocks are inbound and they are being accused of being a Watercool knock off. Ive had enough issues with EK lately that Im not going there again for the forseeble future.Last edited by JustinThyme; 01-30-2019 at 04:09 AM.
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01-30-2019 09:12 AM #17
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I can't exactly comment on first block iterations a decade ago, but modern EK blocks are all designed inhouse. I work in EKWB, thus I share with you my own knowledge. I mean I watch our RND guys draw the blocks in Solidworks and other things I know nothing about and do some calculations flow stuff etc.
If you check out a live sample Strix 2080Ti block was showcased ~2 months ago. The design was finalized, but production components were holding EK back.
If you have issues with EK products, please contact us on Facebook page or over support tickets and we'll do everything to sort you out and fix whatever is troubling you.
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01-30-2019 02:34 PM #18
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Can you say who this PPCs rep was? I know most of them, ditto people at EK and Barrow, and Bitspower and many others. Most of what you say is factually incorrect. Barrow and EKWB have nothing in common aside from some EK products being manufactured in China, and Barrow is a predominantly Chinese company.
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01-30-2019 02:53 PM #19
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01-30-2019 05:39 PM #20
JustinThyme PC Specs Laptop (Model) G752VY-DH72 Motherboard Rampage VI Extreme Processor I9 9940X Memory (part number) 64GB DDR4 8x8 Corsair Dominator Platinum 3800 MHz @ C17 Graphics Card #1 ASUS Strix 2080Ti O11G @ 2.1GHz Graphics Card #2 ASUS Strix 2080Ti O11G @ 2.1Ghz Graphics Card #3 ROG Nvlink Graphics Card #4 Have to feed animals Sound Card External Audioengine D1 24 bit 192kbps DAC Monitor ASUS PG348Q @ 100Hz Storage #1 Intel 905P 480GB U2 flavor Storage #2 Samsung 850 EVO 1TB X2 in RAID 0, 960 PRO 1TB DIMM.2_1 CPU Cooler HeatKiller IV PRO and VRM blocks ,Dual D5 PWM serial, 2X 480, 1X 360 RADS Case Phanteks Enthoo Elite 8X LL120 PWM, 3X LL140 PWM, 12 SP120 PWM 1x AF140 PWM Power Supply Corsair AX 1500i Keyboard ASUS Claymore Mouse ASUS Spatha, Logitech MX Master Headset Sennheiser HD 700 Mouse Pad ASUS ROG Sheath Headset/Speakers Audioengine A5+ with SVS SB-1000 Sub OS Win10 Pro 1809 Network Router NetGear NightHawk X10 Accessory #1 NetGear Prosafe 10GBe Switch Accessory #2 Qnap TVS-682 NAS modded with I7 CPU
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Not PPCs and as stated its unethical to drag this person into mudslinging.
Take it or leave it, think Ripley's......
Facts remain. You want to prove it as rumor then be my guest, your claim to anything being factually incorrect is not plausible without evidentiary support. I trust the person who provided me with support more than an anonymous forum poster.
If you are hell bent and you know all of the vendors then get them to provide you with the support. Easy enough.
As for EK making some parts in china that's a bit contradictory to an earlier statement all designs and manufacturing are done in house. So who is right wit that one? You or the member who says he works for EKWB?
If the info is wrong then its wrong, just passing along what was provided by a reputable source. If its a lie, then they told it. I have no reason to disbelieve this person though nor to spread rumors. Like I stated I was dumbfounded myself.Last edited by JustinThyme; 01-30-2019 at 05:58 PM.