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    It's happening again!!!

    Ok, laptop back from RMA today to my office.

    GL703GS

    Fired it up (looks great, previous display artifacts completely gone after the panel was reportedly replaced. And this panel has no backlight bleed!!)

    Went to shut down: says it wants to install updates. Guess it found some when it connected to the internet at my work.?

    Looking at pending updates (verbatim):

    ASUSTek COMPUTER INC. - Firmware - 10/17/2018 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.2.307
    Status: Pending Install

    2018-10 Update for Windows 10 Version 1803 for x64 based Systems (KB4100347)
    Status: Pending restart

    [Restart now] _Schedule the restart_


    I delayed updates and convinced it to shut down into UEFI without the firmware install.

    My current firmware is :
    Version 307
    86.04.7C.00.24 N098GL703GS.001
    FOCF0901.00B


    Can anyone validate either the current version, or the fact that windows update has queued another firmware update?



    ---Im super concerned that windows is pushing firmware updates to my machine!!! No one I've spoken to with experience in IT says this is normal.

    Can anyone shed some light, provide guidance, or point me to a place to get some piece of mind?
    Asus support was unable to help, only commenting (this time) that Windows should not be able to push firmware updates.

    Ultimately, I'd like to first wipe and reinstall all UEFI instances, and then install a clean M.2 drive to install clean windows on. Is this possible??

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    Why don't you flash your BIOS with a fresh copy OFF Asus site? Something sounds not normal here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abaidor View Post
    Why don't you flash your BIOS with a fresh copy OFF Asus site? Something sounds not normal here...

    Done and done.

    I do wonder what persists through a reflash though....clearly it doesn't wipe the entire flash. UEFI has provisions for persistent anti malware modules for example. And apparently provisions for persistent drivers and for example the asus armory crate. Not to say these things are bad, but is this functionality being exploited by keyloggers or other malware? Could someone with access to the SPI flasher flash a module that survives the EZFlash program?

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    i agree with @Abaidor => HW just CAN'T update bios by itself (it's not windows or your basic A/V (OFC. if you have secure boot enabled - and as far as i understand => it's enabled)...
    you said some things about uefi flash, that makes we vonder => are you serious or just troll?? ( want to belive 1-st, but really think - 2'nd)...

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    Thumbs up

    windows updating the bios is fine, jezzz ppl your getting all worked up over nothing, let it go

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    Nope Im serious.

    Windows keeps updating firmware.

    I installed the recent firmware manually from the site (version 307, release date 1/29/2019). I did this on Feb 1st using EZFlash

    Now I have any entry in Window Update history:

    ASUSTek COMPUTER INC. - Firmware - 10/17/2018 12:00:00 AM - 10.1.2307
    Successfully installed on ‎2/‎3/‎2019


    Im not trolling here. I have spoken with Asus about it multiple times via web chat and email support. Three of Four support agents have said Windows can push firmware updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cah4e3 View Post
    you said some things about uefi flash, that makes we vonder => are you serious or just troll?? ( want to belive 1-st, but really think - 2'nd)...
    What was said about the UEFI that makes you think Im trolling here? If Im missing something Ive be grateful to learn

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    Hi,
    Only item MS pushes is Intel micro codes
    Included in bios updates too but very different only written to disk not bios editing.
    Restore a system image and the micro code goes bye bye too.

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    Well, I watched with my own eyes my BIOS update after returning home. Only reason it didn't do it without my knowing is the BIOS password is installed so it couldn't start until I entered it.

    But the laptop had no Asus Live software on it, and I definitely did not request the update. Nevertheless, it re-wrote the BIOS. No troll.

    Maybe you could open your own ticket with Asus and ask if this is possible, because multiple Asus support employees have now told me BIOS updates are delivered via Windows Update and that this is normal and I shouldn't be alarmed.

    I just hate the idea of a compromised windows install leading to your BIOS getting hacked. I've searched pretty hard and cant find a way to rewrite the entire BIOS image without sending it back to Asus (ok fine). But I also cant find any information on setting the write-bit to disabled to prevent software like windows from accessing the flash writer.

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    Hi, just want to share my experience in case there are other users come across this thread from Google search.

    The OP didn't lie, the same thing happened to me on my Asus X550VXK laptop.

    I don't have Asus Live Update on my system, but Windows Update can automatically push the BIOS. I left my laptop powered on last night, then when I woke up it's already rebooted. When I checked Windows Update history, I found Asustek Firmware 10.1.2.307 already installed. Rebooted and open up my BIOS, it's already updated to 307.
    Last edited by Masenshi; 06-04-2019 at 04:50 AM.

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