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    My dear frenchy, example of useless post is yours about Retpoline (Reptoline in your words, xDDD) in x299. Or the one in Win-Raid complaining about UBU updates all the cpu microcodes in a specific bios as if it was SoniX fault. It's very pathetic!!!

    Second point, learn english, u've been here for years and still using a translator like a small kiddo.

    Third point, doubt seriously the new cpu's work ok with Microcode 49 since all the new bios from the different manufacturers come with 5E at least (MSI uses MC 64).

    Fourth point=your unworthy commentaries about a higher TJMax in the latest microcodes and not in the 49. Useless since you have a highest limit so the result=same. You only have the placebo of seeing a lower temp in idle, so totally unworthy and less protection with MC 49.

    But as I said before, preaching in the desert=wasted and useless sermon!!!
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    Another one of your other posts completely useless

    Retpoline should work with Skylake-X (software), sorry to teach you

    tistou, I just received an update on this case.

    Retpoline should be compatible with Skylake and newer processors as this is software.

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    A Contingent Worker at Intel
    But if you know better than Intel, then it would be necessary to inform Intel
    I have the merit of looking for information and not just posted silly things like you
    Alberto R must contact me and confirm how Retpoline works with newer processors

    On UBU, I asked a question about the microcode, it does not concern you but you like quibble

    For the TJmax, the temperature of the cores is read in relation to the TJmax, but still something that you ignore maybe and as usual you speak for nothing
    Otherwise why so many people indicate that the temperatures of their cores have increased since the microcode 5x

    And last thing, the Cascade-Lake-X have a CPUID different from the Skylake-X and logically a different microcode
    But unlike you, having no reliable information on the microcode of CL-X, I do not advance unlike you
    And your posts would be like saying "The 49 is not compatible with KabyLake-X", post completely useless

    But again, you just post to say silly things
    But I must admit, your posts make me laugh (small dose anyway)

    PS: if my post in English you do not like, please me, stop answering me, it will make me a vacation, I have enough to read your nonsense
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    The high ic frenchy is back!!!

    That Intel contingent worker (Do you know what contingent is?) has no idea about retpoline, same as you. Retpoline will make some older processors to perform better after meltdown and spectre patches.

    U tried forcing retpoline and u found no differences cos it doesn't work with your 7980xe, but u are so intelligent u can't understand. Forcing retpoline under Windows will not change the regedit keys with a skylake x processor, u can check regedit for yourself. So speaking of useless u are the master, same as speaking of clowns.

    Now with the tjmax, u are using an old microcode that is not being used in the new bios's for cascade lake x. U say the new ones increase the temps, but the higher temp doesn't cause malfunction or a lower oc capability since on load the processors are as stable as 49 case. There are several later versions which according t you don't solve that problem, but the truth is there is no problem but in your head cos u o ly want to see better idle temps which in practical are useless. Maybe u think that 30 degrees instead of 25 are going to melt your cpu.

    In regards to cascade lake x specific microcode, if they maintain the 60564 for this new cpu, and having in mind that all the released bios contain 5E or superior, i can say 5e is the way to go at least. U should contact the contingent worker to better acknowledge.

    Finally, go on vacation, your head is dropping oil!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vmanuelgm View Post
    In regards to cascade lake x specific microcode, if they maintain the 60564 for this new cpu, and having in mind that all the released bios contain 5E or superior, i can say 5e is the way to go at least. U should contact the contingent worker to better acknowledge.
    I don't know the CPUID 60564, sorry

    According to this screen, it would be 50657, 50654 is for Skylake-X
    The screen is not good quality but we can see if not bad faith as you


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    But it does not matter, nobody will hold you
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    We see better on that one

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    But it seems logical to have a different CPUID for a different CPU series, just you do not know
    I do not think Intel re puts the 654 to please you, but for you... maybe...

    Thanks for coming, I had a good laugh

    End of Off Topic, back to modded bios
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    Quote Originally Posted by tistou77 View Post
    We see better on that one

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    But it seems logical to have a different CPUID for a different CPU series, just you do not know
    I do not think Intel re puts the 654 to please you, but for you... maybe...

    Thanks for coming, I had a good laugh

    End of Off Topic, back to modded bios

    Ok then, 50657 and MC 29 to rule Cascade Lake X, if those captures are true (should be since they come from Chiphell)!!! I was thinking of Skylake-X refresh same 50654 for 9980xe and 7980xe, but both skylake-x in the end.

    In regards to the rest of my afirmations, still true. U don't know what retpoline is, u sometimes are so obfuscated u blame SoniX for a manufacturer's fault, and u finally are obsessed with MC 49 because you are in love with your idle temperature, but that's a very old MC that shouldn't be used.

    Go and reload oil, u need it urgently!!!

    PS: still waiting for Intelburn pics in OC.NET!!! Guess I'll wait forever!!!
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    Ok thanks, next
    Sorry for my english


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    Would like to say also, because I'm a polite man, that this thread of yours is very useful to get bios updated. So when I said your retpoline tests were useless, I didn't mean all your work is useless.

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    For Retpoline, I only tested with the microcode 49, and this microcode is one of the microcode that makes losing "the least performance" (with the old 2B and 43)
    So very little difference with 2, 3 tests

    I will test one day with 64 microcode to see the differences with the 49

    And with the 7980XE, I stay with the 49, doing the hunt for temperatures (watercooling), I do not want 5° more in load
    There is already a difference with Cinebench

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    5° more when I tested with 60, at the time
    Sorry for my english


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    I guess the best performance/security ratio goes for MC 60... I find the MC 49 a bit old...

    Forgot to ask, Tistou, u still using 49 under Windows without a workaround to avoid Windows loads 4D and newer versions, or have u patched your system???

    In case u haven't patched it, having MC 49 is useless under Win!!!
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