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    ok.
    I did make "past" from your 3600 settings, load 3466 profile memory, save and then did make tests...

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    Seems some core did fail or stop working....i hope did choose well Prime options....
    I forget that on UFI i did "relax" some values on memory voltage....but i can later post here what exactly.

    Question:
    How to export bios option to a pen, as notepad text?

    Thank you in advance!

    Edit:
    Can`t believe i lost print screen from tests.....arghhh!

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    Seems 10 minutes after i start i have failures....can`t tell if it is memorys or cores......
    More juice?
    Last edited by Mordorr; 02-19-2019 at 07:24 PM.

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    Hey Mordor what I can can see you are not on 4000Mhz see maximum tab in HWinfo64 that´s normal how Ryzen cores scaling.... Where do u see problem?

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    @Mordorr

    In your screen shots I think you are testing with RAM OC when running P95 128K in place FFT? if so use stock RAM, as stated in previous post.

    Keep you profile simple.

    As stated before set a base profile, save it.

    Test CPU OC, then undo that CPU OC, do RAM OC and test, finally combine the two OCs.

    Do not get bogged down. Do not over think. Gun for the easiest gains first, save that profile, at your leisure and if you feel like it OC more.
    Last edited by gupsterg; 02-19-2019 at 07:35 PM.
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    First at all, thank you for your patient!

    Rewerend:

    I notice it! My big frustration is not try 4200 or above. Don`t know yet why. Next gonna try pump multiplier.

    gupsterg

    Thank you. Theoretically, that's the ideal OC basics for get after a stable OC....
    I totally agree with you!!!

    Problem:
    I can`t figure yet, how to OC only CPU, and OC only ram....

    I have 2 profiles saved:
    - 1 3200 practical stock
    - 2 this last affinition, but on version more simple...

    Want then , try oc CPU. Start play with Vcore, multiplier? Can you give-me (again) some basic ideas for this?

    Hope this tread help others like me from "old school" that are starting with these combo

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    @Mordorr gupsterg has already documented step-by-step his OC procedure in the C7H Essential thread. See the section "Some of what I do with OC'ing" here: https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...ead#post717127

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    gorpo

    Yes i know. Already read all tread, but even so its very technically....

    Went to stock, put multiplier to 42, but then it seems i can control Vcore...looks almost at maximum.....

    Arghh.......

    I almost givin up this. Too much confuse and parameters. Even just increase CPU its a damm confusion....

    Miss old school Vcore+FSB+multiplier....

    Thank you all for your patient. I know this is my limitation and please read this just as weak momemt from my side...

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    UPDATE:

    I think i get successfully CPU at 42x100 and memory's at 3333 using profile inside of bias...at least with Prime running a good 25 minutes.

    Problem:
    I did put multiplier at 42. Why the hell, Vcore freezes at 1.348v?

    Whats the option to turn off the "freeze" Vcore? Why only change multiplier, Vcore stays the same?

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    It would be best to dump a settings text and share it as a zip, this way can see better.

    This is only my opinion, you are best off using PBO. The CPU will operate more like stock, but enhanced frequencies and better efficiency than traditional manual OC.

    Check your usage cases, see if you hit frequencies and more so performance to match manual OC.

    Below is a zip with settings txts, use Winmerge to compare and easily see what changes.

    Examples.zip

    Profile 1 Base Profile - this is no OC on CPU & RAM, ie stock/defaults, basically contains foundations of settings for me to build my OC profile on.

    Profile 2 Base PBOE - same as Profile 1, but Precision Boost Overdrive Enabled, so CPU is OC'd.

    Profile 3 Base 3466S - same as Profile 1, but RAM at 3466MHz using The Stilt timings, so RAM is OC'd, CPU is not OC'd.

    Profile 4 PBOE 3466S - CPU & RAM OC'd.

    So profile 2 was the setup I was highlighting test with P95 128K in place FFTs. Profile 3 was to be tested with P95 8K 4096K 12750MB. Profile 4 I'd run both tests.

    TBH it does not hurt to run all tests on each profile, then you know you have thoroughly tested a setup before moving to next stage.

    I use Prime 95 as it has ability to place sustained loads on CPU, doesn't create wild temperatures IMO (caveat being good cooling). The reason for using v28.10b1 and v29.4b8 is they differ on instruction set used, I have seen some of the CPUs cave quicker on one or the other, then I use that version first to speed up testing/profiling.

    I use Realbench as it again has nice loading, variety of method of loading CPU, there will be "yo yo" of CPU frequencies, which can destabilise a profile.

    Y-Cruncher has nice loading, uses variety of ways to load CPU, differing frequencies CPU will hit for sustained load and "yo yo" between test change.
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    gupsterg—that's great info, thanks for that. I have a similar thread open but I'll just reply back here so as to not have two of the same threads.

    I've been experimenting as well the past few days and find PBO to have a great combination of speed and efficiency/cooling. In terms of RAM OC, I've been able to run The Stilt's fast 3200 preset timings with no issues, solid so far. I haven't been successful at running his 3466 preset though, so I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to get that working if his fast 3200 is working fine. I haven't tried his fast 3333 preset but I'll try that tonight.

    Also, when you're using PBO/XFR—I'm assuming it would stop working the moment you change the Multiplier to anything other than 37 right? Because then you're manually OCing the CPU. What about increasing the BUS up 1 or 2 to 101 or 102..does that affect PBO/XFR?

    How do I create a text file for my profiles like you did? Would love to do that and paste here so you can have a look.

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    Ryzen CPU and memory speed matter much in realbench, especially in the image editing score

    Here is 4100mhz / 3600mhz with 2400G + some simple windows tweaks
    It would be possible to score higher also at 4100mhz (tweaking memory) 220.000 maybe, 4200mhz @ +230.000?
    (i have AMD stock cooler so i cant run 4200mhz to find out)
    Feel free to post the highest image editing scores, it would be fun to see how far Ryzen can be pushed

    Basic Windows tweaks/ realbench image editing:
    Run windows in diagnostics mode (startup), RUN/msconfig, select diagnostic startup, click OK and reboot
    Set screen resolution to 800x600
    Launch realbench app (but don't start benchmark)
    Open task monitor (ctrl+alt+del) -> details / set both realbench tasks to high priority
    Run benchmark
    Run image editing benchmark a couple of times, the score yields different from time to time

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