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Bootable VROC RAID 10, VMD domains, and PCIe lanes

User5437
Level 7
Intended Hardware/RAID Setup:

As I understand it from this picture, bootable RAID arrays have a maximum of 4 supported drives because they must reside within a single VMD domain and non-bootable arrays can span multiple VMD domains.

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I don't know how VMDs are distributed on this board so I don't know if the arrays can be configured in this way:

Onboard:
M.2_1 (lower M.2 slot, too short for a 905P) Data drive 7

M.2_2 (upper M.2 slot, shares bandwidth with the U.2 port and may be PCH only) No drive


DIMM.2:
M.2_1 Boot drive 1

M.2_2 Boot drive 2


M.2 x16 Card 1:
M.2_1 Boot drive 3

M.2_2 Boot drive 4

M.2_3 Data drive 1

M.2_4 Data drive 2


M.2 x16 Card 2:
M.2_1 Data drive 3

M.2_2 Data drive 4

M.2_3 Data drive 5

M.2_4 Data drive 6


Will this configuration work?

Also, the CPU supports 44 PCIe lanes and there will be an x16 graphics card, how many 970 EVOs would need to be cancelled to keep the graphics card running at a full x16?
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G75rog
Level 10
You'll have to drop one Hyper X16 card in order to run x16 on the other one. If you run a Hyper X16 at X8 you will only see 2 drives.

You would be better served running all the 905P's in the Hyper X16 and put the Data drives on the Dimm.2

The Asus X299 Sage WS or X299 Sage/10G uses the PLX 8747 Pcie switches and would allow X16 to the GPU and both Hyper X16 cards.

imho


I currently run the R6 Apex with 8 1&2 TB Samsungs on board without Raid.

G75rog wrote:
You'll have to drop one Hyper X16 card in order to run x16 on the other one. If you run a Hyper X16 at X8 you will only see 2 drives.

You would be better served running all the 905P's in the Hyper X16 and put the Data drives on the Dimm.2

The Asus X299 Sage WS or X299 Sage/10G uses the PLX 8747 Pcie switches and would allow X16 to the GPU and both Hyper X16 cards.

imho


I currently run the R6 Apex with 8 1&2 TB Samsungs on board without Raid.


I run 2 HyperX16s both run at x16 with 4 divided x4 lanes. I had to put my GPU in a x8 slot to accomplish this.

BTW the controllers worked this way for me, there are 3, Controller 0 1st HyperX16, Controller 1 2nd HyperX16, Controller2 DIMM Card (I have a single Samsung 960 Pro in that card)

I NEED HELP!

SPENDING $$$ still no RAID!

New system: Trying boot RAID 0 from ASUS X299 Deluxe Ed 30 w/ VROC #951605 INTEL RAID CHIP + 64GB Memory (4 x 16GB DDR4 3200) + I9-10900X CPU + ASUS HYPERX 16 GEN 4 (PCIEX16_2 SLOT) w/ 4x EVO Plus 250GB M.2.

I also have EVO in M.2_1, M.2_3, MP500 in M.2_2. SATA2G DVD Drive, SATA3G Toshiba X300 4TB, SATA4G Firecuda 1TB, SATA5G Firecuda 1TB. GIGABYTE GTX-1070 PLCIX16_1 Slot.

What am I missing? ASUS X299 has latest Bios 0603. I can't get pass Bios Set-up as NO RAID setup is present after choosing RAID on CPU! OS is WIN 10 PRO from USB stick fresh install.

I hate to keep spending money! I noticed the Highpoint Bootable M.2 card but it's another $500!!!

The slight performance increase is not worth the money spent or will be spent! I need some detailed advice on what I am doing wrong.

Sincere thanks,

Billy

GrievousAngel wrote:
I NEED HELP!

SPENDING $$$ still no RAID!

New system: Trying boot RAID 0 from ASUS X299 Deluxe Ed 30 w/ VROC #951605 INTEL RAID CHIP + 64GB Memory (4 x 16GB DDR4 3200) + I9-10900X CPU + ASUS HYPERX 16 GEN 4 (PCIEX16_2 SLOT) w/ 4x EVO Plus 250GB M.2.

I also have EVO in M.2_1, M.2_3, MP500 in M.2_2. SATA2G DVD Drive, SATA3G Toshiba X300 4TB, SATA4G Firecuda 1TB, SATA5G Firecuda 1TB. GIGABYTE GTX-1070 PLCIX16_1 Slot.

What am I missing? ASUS X299 has latest Bios 0603. I can't get pass Bios Set-up as NO RAID setup is present after choosing RAID on CPU! OS is WIN 10 PRO from USB stick fresh install.

I hate to keep spending money! I noticed the Highpoint Bootable M.2 card but it's another $500!!!

The slight performance increase is not worth the money spent or will be spent! I need some detailed advice on what I am doing wrong.

Sincere thanks,

Billy



What Intel m.2 drives do you use? I only can see Samsung and Corsair M.2 drives in your description.
Intel VROC on the X299 chip set works ONLY with high end Intel drives such as Optane 905p or 900p drives in M.2 or U.2 format or drives from their Data Center enterprise line. See here: https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/memory-and-storage/ssd-software/Intel_VROC...

Int8bldr wrote:
What Intel m.2 drives do you use? I only can see Samsung and Corsair M.2 drives in your description.
Intel VROC on the X299 chip set works ONLY with high end Intel drives such as Optane 905p or 900p drives in M.2 or U.2 format or drives from their Data Center enterprise line. See here: https://www.intel.com/content/dam/support/us/en/documents/memory-and-storage/ssd-software/Intel_VROC...


I thought I read someone state that he used Samsung EVO also. The VROC model I have states works with other manufacturer's M.2, however it hasn't yet. I purchased the 951605 VRoc.

Some please research the INTEL 951605 VROC chip. It claims other SSD manufacturers work also. Am I mistaken? I now own (6) EVO and (1) Force MP500 M.2 SSDs! 3 of the EVO are brand new, (2) EVO Plus 250GB + (1) EVO 1TB. The (1) EVO 250GB and the Corsair Force MP500 500GB are 2 years old.

OK. What model SSd M.2 should I purchase for bootable RAID 0 or 1/0?

I t may less costly to use the High Point SSD7103 Bootable 4X M.2 NVMe RAID Controller. Who agrees or has had success with the 7103 in my platform and Samsung EVO Plus 250GB?

I use this computer for Autocad and digital media creation, ie., music and video (some commercial use). ProTools 12.2020, UA Thunderbolt X8P nad AVID Dock + (2) S1 control surfaces. FX are mostly UA with DSP. Once my M.2 RAID 0 is happy, then I'll open thread about media creation.

It appears my main choice currently is buy 4 other SSD's or buy the Highpoint 7103 or similar? What other BOOTABLE 7103 M.2 controllers are out there that work?

Cheers

CharlieH
Level 8
One note I use intel 900p SSDs, 8 of them. Not sure about the samsungs working maybe with a VROC key?

CharlieH
Level 8
I am not sure your config will work, but if it does you will be spanning contollers. And I know you cannot boot off spanned controllers, well at least it is not supported. So I don't think your configuration will work or at least you shouldn't do it even if you found a way to get the spanned controllers to boot (maybe there is a hack) your OS won't upgrade properly in the future. It will be painful to do.

Thanks guys. I would like to keep the graphics card at x16 so it seems like my options for the non-bootable data array are to either have less drives and continue using this motherboard, or switch to the X299 Sage/10G and keep all of the drives but lose a few extras that this motherboard has.

I prefer this motherboard so I think I'll go with that and perhaps make the non-bootable data array out of SATA drives in a non-VROC RAID.