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    Quote Originally Posted by ninezerofive View Post
    Yea bro, 8 in one box, 8 in other and check run in place. I prefer this over the IBT as it will give you the worst case scenario pretty much straight away, the temp wise and will show you the lack of vcore if you are experiencing it, but mostly it's time saving, if it's fine for an hour it will "generally" endure any longer test. (Who has time to run realbench for 8h to confirm the stability everytime you adjust slider by 0.5)
    Okay, easy then.

    And yeah, of cause not running 8hr realbench everytime i adjust something. But that is what I used IBT for before. To get a quick reference test. However, it seemed very hard to pass.
    When I was trying to get my manual oc stable, I started at 1.350v and ended up at 1.385v before I passed in IBT.

    But also running prime95 for an hour everytime you adjust 0.5 also seems VERY time consuming? IBT only takes 50-80 seconds to pass or fail.

    Btw. did you read the article i posted? Regarding adaptive vs. VID ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joppiano View Post
    Okay, easy then.

    And yeah, of cause not running 8hr realbench everytime i adjust something. But that is what I used IBT for before. To get a quick reference test. However, it seemed very hard to pass.
    When I was trying to get my manual oc stable, I started at 1.350v and ended up at 1.385v before I passed in IBT.

    But also running prime95 for an hour everytime you adjust 0.5 also seems VERY time consuming? IBT only takes 50-80 seconds to pass or fail.

    Btw. did you read the article i posted? Regarding adaptive vs. VID ?
    The thing with prime is the further you are from desired voltage the sooner if will fail, so there's a big chance to fail at 50 second mark as well, but if you fail it at 50th minute then just a slight adjustment of 0.025 should be necessary.

    P.S. I just skimmed over it, ill give it a proper read once I get some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninezerofive View Post
    The thing with prime is the further you are from desired voltage the sooner if will fail, so there's a big chance to fail at 50 second mark as well, but if you fail it at 50th minute then just a slight adjustment of 0.025 should be necessary.

    P.S. I just skimmed over it, ill give it a proper read once I get some time.
    Okay, well that is a good thing tho.
    I just did a 20 min of 8x8 fft prime95 and passed with current adaptive oc settings.
    Max temp was 82c and average 78-79c.

    I guess i could try lower my Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core voltage from 1.370v and see when i become unstable in Prime95 8x8 fft.
    But then I will then fail on IBT, with anything lower than 1.370v - Thoughts on this? You think I should just look over that or?

    Also what is your thoughts on what i mentioned earliere about vdroops vs. vboosts ? Im new to overclocking, however, ive heard several places that I dont want vboost, but want a slight vdroop to work with, since vboost can potentially be dangerous on transitions from cpu load to idle.

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    What I would recommend is that you take a fresh approach to this. Save the current bios profile in case you want to tinker with it later on.

    Make a new profile, set everything up as der8auer recommends and start from there, your current setup is sort of a mess, of what your friend recommended, what you thought was a good idea, what you read somewhere and what I added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninezerofive View Post
    What I would recommend is that you take a fresh approach to this. Save the current bios profile in case you want to tinker with it later on.

    Make a new profile, set everything up as der8auer recommends and start from there, your current setup is sort of a mess, of what your friend recommended, what you thought was a good idea, what you read somewhere and what I added.
    Well I get your point. But I havent changed my current settings so far, since it's stable as it is. Just wish i had lower voltages tbh.
    Also regards to Der8auer's overclocking video, you gotta keep in mind he is using a different CPU and also a different motherboard, which will results in a different approach - so I would think at least.

    Besides that, I have already seen hes video, and tryid what he applies in my early attempt to hit 5.0GHz.
    This was the settings i tryid with back then:

    Multiplier: 50
    AVX Offset: -3
    XMP: XMP 1 Enabled
    MCE: Disabled
    SVID Support: Disabled
    BLCK Aware Adaptive Voltage: Disabled
    CPU Core/Cache Voltage: 1.360v
    CPU Load-line Calibration: Level 6
    CPU Current Capability: 170% (max)
    Long Duration Package Power Limit: 4095 (max)
    Short Duration Package Power Limit: 4095 (max)
    CPU Core/Cache Current Limit: 255.75 (max)

    Result:
    - Cinebench r15: Passed.
    - Prime95 v26.6 (1344-1344 fft) 3 minutes: Failed - BSOD after 3 minutes time.

    Also tryid LLC 5 with above settings, but a worker stopped after 3 mins in P95.
    And note this was in 1.360v manual voltage.
    Last edited by joppiano; 04-29-2019 at 02:09 PM.

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    So here is an update.

    I have spend the last few days working on my adaptive settings to finetune it. And seems like I found what works the best for my chip.

    5.0GHz settings (w/ adaptive voltages)
    Multiplier: 50
    XMP: Enabled
    AVX: 0
    MCE: Auto
    SVID Support: Auto
    SVID Behavior: Best Case Scenario
    AC/DC Load Line: 0.01 / 0.01
    Load Line Calibration: Level 6
    Adaptive Voltage: 1.320v (1.341v @ load)
    Voltage Offset: -0.053v
    VCCIO: 1.100v
    VCCSA: 1.150v
    Max temp: 81c
    Stresstest: Realbench 8hr, Prime95 v26.6 2hr, OCCT 1hr.

    I tryid the above settings with 1.315v, but that caused my HWiNFO to show WHEA ERROR's, so decided to up it with 5mv, and been working for 2 days now. No WHEA ERROR's.
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    1) What happens if you Disable MCE
    2) What happens if you SVID Behavior : Auto
    3) What happens if you do them both
    4) What happens if you do them both and turn off : Voltage Offset: -0.053v

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninezerofive View Post
    1) What happens if you Disable MCE
    2) What happens if you SVID Behavior : Auto
    3) What happens if you do them both
    4) What happens if you do them both and turn off : Voltage Offset: -0.053v
    Why do you ask?

    MCE maxes out Power and current limits.
    SVID Behavior: Best Case - Sets AC/DC to 0.01. I just manually set them as well.
    Voltage Offset: If I remove offset -0.053v, my vcore will go to 1.373v and my vcore @ load at around 1.380v.
    If I disable MCE & SVID Behavior Auto. I would probably just hit a limit wall

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    Your settings with LLC at 5 (manual or adaptive) are what they should be. Vdroop is a good thing, and I recommend against using LLC to increase vcore under load, especially for a 24/7 overclock. JUst set a higher vcore and let it droop. Idle and low load voltage is pretty meaningless (within reason). Current - amps - kill.
    Avoid using p95 FFT=8 as a measure of stability, it is basically a power virus setting and may be only a test of the thermal solution you have on the chip. It simply hammers the cpu floating point unit with the same instruction set (and 26.6 does not implement AVX at all). Use a current version and set an AVX offset if you want... or simply disable AVX in p95 in the local.txt file (instructions are in the undoc.xtx file in the p965 folder).
    Realbench (x264) p95 FFT 1344, and IBT is a great combination. Lastly, get a copy of HCi memtest, RamTest, or implement Ubuntu in the windows linux subsystem (google windows BASH)... and run Google stressapptest for the ram. I wouldn't assume XMP is always stable and there ain't nothing worse than OS corruption by a bad ram OC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmboy View Post
    Your settings with LLC at 5 (manual or adaptive) are what they should be. Vdroop is a good thing, and I recommend against using LLC to increase vcore under load, especially for a 24/7 overclock. JUst set a higher vcore and let it droop. Idle and low load voltage is pretty meaningless (within reason). Current - amps - kill.
    Avoid using p95 FFT=8 as a measure of stability, it is basically a power virus setting and may be only a test of the thermal solution you have on the chip. It simply hammers the cpu floating point unit with the same instruction set (and 26.6 does not implement AVX at all). Use a current version and set an AVX offset if you want... or simply disable AVX in p95 in the local.txt file (instructions are in the undoc.xtx file in the p965 folder).
    Realbench (x264) p95 FFT 1344, and IBT is a great combination. Lastly, get a copy of HCi memtest, RamTest, or implement Ubuntu in the windows linux subsystem (google windows BASH)... and run Google stressapptest for the ram. I wouldn't assume XMP is always stable and there ain't nothing worse than OS corruption by a bad ram OC.
    So your suggesting a setting with vdroop rather than a so called "vboost" ? So having a higher vcore, but lower when under load. Rather than a low vcore, but higher when under load?

    E.g.
    LLC 5 - VCORE 1.350v - Under load 1.332v.
    LLC 6 - VCORE 1.320v - Under load 1.332v.


    I've been told different things, from different people regarding this, and therefor seek some clarification. Some people thinks "vboost" can be dangerous and therefor prefer vdroop, and some people don't. And why is it you recommend against using LLC to increase load?

    And what do you mean exactly with "Idle and low load voltage is pretty meaningless (within reason). Current - amps - kill.". Im not very knowledgable about current, amps etc.

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