Results 1 to 4 of 4
  1. #1
    New ROGer Array quexos PC Specs
    quexos PC Specs
    MotherboardMSI B450
    ProcessorAMD Ryzen 3 2200G
    Memory (part number)2x8GB CMK16GX4M2C3000C15S
    Graphics Card #1GTX 1060 3GB
    Sound CardXonar SE

    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Reputation
    10
    Posts
    4

    Question Xonar SE Souncard Problems. Any Ideas?

    I've found very little info about this Xonar SE card on the internet, so I'll just list the problems (and solutions) I have run into with it and hopefully I can sort at least some of it out. I am currently running it in 2 channel stereo via analog from rear output (green) to my receiver. I would prefer to use the optical (spdif) output, the entire reason I bought the card (my mainboard has no digital outputs at all), but the #1 problem below prevents it.

    ...all versions of Windows:

    1. Using SPDIF (optical) output cuts off the first 1-2 seconds of EVERY audio stream it plays and stutters/dropouts randomly.
    Short Windows sounds, for example only play the trailing end of the sound or are not even heard at all. So a "kabliiiiiiiing" sound is just "iing", and "biiing" is not even heard at all. Here is a workaround: http://veg.by/en/projects/soundkeeper but I am not willing to use it because it causes other issues like changing bit rates causes error about it being in use, not to mention running a random exe from the internet 24/7? Nah!

    ...so I switch to analog output Windows LTSC 2019 (1809):

    2. Analog output has short dropouts/hiccups/stutters every few minutes or so.
    This was bad on Win10 LTSC 2019 (1809, my preferred build), and is less severe/fixed on 1903 or 1607. No idea why but the onboard Realtek and my usb headset (probably the same/similar c-media chip in it) never do this on the exact same builds.

    ...so I switch to Windows LTSB 2016 (1607):

    3. When using analog output to receiver (Speakers), the default device is reset to Optical, and if I disable that, 'Headphones (USB)' (with Speakers greyed out) every time the PC is shut down and restarted.
    If I do a driver only (preferred method) install without the Asus Control Panel, Speakers can not be selected at all, ever. Only Optical or Headphones. Come on Asus, this is the most basic function of a sound card driver!

    So to summarize, I want to use Optical output to my receiver, but cannot due to #1, on Windows LTSC 2019 (1809), but cannot due to #2, and strike 3, going back to Windows LTSB 1607 or 1903 and analog to avoid #1 and #2 causes #3.

    Notes: The driver package contains a driver for the asmedia usb2 controller but it is not installed by default. Installing it before or after the sound card driver, does not fix any of the above problems. I run my PC very "lean and clean". There is no virus scanner or "start with windows" type software on it other than the Nvidia graphics driver.
    Miniatura de Adjuntos Miniatura de Adjuntos nope.jpg  

    Last edited by quexos; Yesterday at 09:25 PM.

  2. #2
    New ROGer Array quexos PC Specs
    quexos PC Specs
    MotherboardMSI B450
    ProcessorAMD Ryzen 3 2200G
    Memory (part number)2x8GB CMK16GX4M2C3000C15S
    Graphics Card #1GTX 1060 3GB
    Sound CardXonar SE

    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Reputation
    10
    Posts
    4

    Some more info:

    Running Windows 10 1809 or newer has a Microsoft default driver v10.0.17763.592 (1607 has none). Using that driver there are no audio dropouts/stutters. Of course there are no effects, stereo mix input, or anything else either. Just proof it is a driver problem though.

    Optical/SPDIF output still has delays though not as severe as the Asus driver.
    Last edited by quexos; 07-20-2019 at 02:47 AM.

  3. #3
    New ROGer Array quexos PC Specs
    quexos PC Specs
    MotherboardMSI B450
    ProcessorAMD Ryzen 3 2200G
    Memory (part number)2x8GB CMK16GX4M2C3000C15S
    Graphics Card #1GTX 1060 3GB
    Sound CardXonar SE

    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Reputation
    10
    Posts
    4

    ...and more info. Since I can't use the Xonar SE analog out, even for my studio headphones, I switched back to my old faithful stand-alone USB headset...and now that is even stuttering when (and only when) the Asus drivers are installed for the Xonar SE. What a mess!

  4. #4
    New ROGer Array quexos PC Specs
    quexos PC Specs
    MotherboardMSI B450
    ProcessorAMD Ryzen 3 2200G
    Memory (part number)2x8GB CMK16GX4M2C3000C15S
    Graphics Card #1GTX 1060 3GB
    Sound CardXonar SE

    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Reputation
    10
    Posts
    4

    Well, after a month of back and forth with Asus 'support', here is their solution for the two different receivers (Yamaha and Sony) I have available...

    Asus: "Please be advised that Optical out cut is because there will be some noise when start output in some situation to, so we mute about 0.x second.
    We suggest if you want to connect to Yamaha RX-V375, you can use HDMI.
    "

    Cool, so buy a bunch of HDMI cables and use my Video Card for audio and have no monitor display unless my receiver is on to pass it through...IE: don't use the Asus Xonar I just bought.

    Asus: "If you want to connect SONY STR-DE945, you can use analog output or use your Realtek optical output.
    And about the driver reset when boot, it should be only happen he close the sleep of win10 (the default shut down is hibernate )
    Did you close the sleep in power option?
    Xonar SE use the same connect for Headphone/speaker , and default is Headphone.
    If your win10 sleep when shutdown, the driver will not detect again, the setting will be the same.
    If your win10 does not sleep when shutdown, the driver will detect every boot.
    "

    I do a full shut down without sleep or hibernate. The driver resets to things that are not even connected (SPDIF/Headphes, or my other USB Headphone) rather than what is connected "Speakers". Solution? Use onboard Realtek audio. IE: don't use the Asus Xonar I just bought.

    Wow. Just wow. That's like Chevy telling me to buy a Ford because the brand new Chevy needs a recall.
    Last edited by quexos; 08-05-2019 at 12:11 AM.

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •