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    Quote Originally Posted by mimosoft View Post
    Official 2606 bios available here:
    https://www.asus.com/de/Motherboards...HelpDesk_BIOS/

    ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO BIOS 2606
    Update AM4 Combo PI 1.0.0.3 Patch AB.
    Update overclocking auto-rules for Ryzen 3000 CPUs.
    " Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (C7H.CAP) using BIOSRenamer.''
    Should I be afraid?

    Any bugs found with this one yet?

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    Newer issues with latest stable and beta BIOS

    Under 2606:
    Well, memory integrity protection no longer works work me under Windows 10 core isolation. When enabled, Windows blue screens on startup with a system_thread_exception_not_handled. On the next boot, memory integrity protection is disabled.

    Some versions of Linux don't boot still due to RDRAND error as we know as this is not fixed in this version.

    Under 2701:
    Same issue with Windows. Linux will boot further due to RDRAND error being solved. But under some versions of Linux I receive an sev command timeout error. Seems the new AGESA code is causing problems with SEV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keystroke View Post
    Under 2606:
    Well, memory integrity protection no longer works work me under Windows 10 core isolation. When enabled, Windows blue screens on startup with a system_thread_exception_not_handled. On the next boot, memory integrity protection is disabled.

    Some versions of Linux don't boot still due to RDRAND error as we know as this is not fixed in this version.

    Under 2701:
    Same issue with Windows. Linux will boot further due to RDRAND error being solved. But under some versions of Linux I receive an sev command timeout error. Seems the new AGESA code is causing problems with SEV.
    Looks like 2501 continues to be the best option, sans some linux distros, as well as the similar 5007 on my other X470 board. Will be interesting to see how long it takes for AMD to beat their own AGESA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
    Looks like 2501 continues to be the best option, sans some linux distros, as well as the similar 5007 on my other X470 board. Will be interesting to see how long it takes for AMD to beat their own AGESA.
    Yup. Looks like this might be related to SME not SEV.

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    Exclamation Huh?!

    Quote Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post
    I don't think this is Cool 'n Quiet.

    I don't have it on 1xxx CPU, but do have Global C-State Control. I've also found AM1 mobo manuals showing PSS Support. Also found a site showing if enabled Linux can report incorrect CPU MHz.
    When I searched for Cool 'n Quiet for my first 1700X, I found AMD sources explaining that feature was called PSS Support now. Can you post the URL you state that PSS Support incorrectly reports clock frequency under Linux. I have never had exact 100Mhz reported, only 99.8 but that is what everybody else reports unless you make major changes in BCLK. The reason is that AMD cpus don't have any internal measuring instruments to measure BLCK like Intel cpus do.

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    Also find many references to what PSS Support means in OCN threads for X370 Prime Pro and other AMD threads.
    Originally Posted by sakae48 View Post

    performance supported state, i guess. another name for CnQ

    It seems so.

    In BIOS I disabled the next options:

    PSS Support = AMD Cool & Quiet
    C6 Mode
    CPB = Core Performance Boost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithMyers View Post
    When I searched for Cool 'n Quiet for my first 1700X, I found AMD sources explaining that feature was called PSS Support now. Can you post the URL you state that PSS Support incorrectly reports clock frequency under Linux. I have never had exact 100Mhz reported, only 99.8 but that is what everybody else reports unless you make major changes in BCLK. The reason is that AMD cpus don't have any internal measuring instruments to measure BLCK like Intel cpus do.
    Linux link.

    Quote Originally Posted by KeithMyers View Post
    Also find many references to what PSS Support means in OCN threads for X370 Prime Pro and other AMD threads.
    I think due to the buried nature of Global C-State Control I think people are mistaking PSS Support as that. Dunno though, all I'm seeing from things I've looked at, that PSS is a ACPI spec and not an AMD thing.

    PSS Support = Processor Supported States Support [Auto/Enabled/Disabled]

    The ACPI specification defines the _PSS (Processor Supported States) ACPI processor object that allows system firmware to describe the processor performance states that are supported by the platform to operating system software.
    Quote from doc below.

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    Cool and Quiet is supposedly Frequency scaling and Power Management, "AMD Cool'n'Quiet is a CPU dynamic frequency scaling and power saving technology introduced by AMD", to quote wikipedia. I think the confusion is that people see idle state in C-state and assume it is all Cool'and'Quiet is about. P-state Frequency is also a factor. Intel SpeedStep is a mix of Both, C and P states, if I recall correctly.

    https://software.intel.com/en-us/blo...very-different


    https://archive.is/20130116192135/ht...581.3-2581.105



    • Independent Dynamic Core Technology- Helps users get more efficient performance by dynamically adjusting individual core frequencies as required by utilization needs
    • Dual Dynamic Power Managementâ„¢ - Helps improve platform efficiency by providing full-speed memory performance while enabling decreased system power consumption.
    • AMD CoolCoreâ„¢ Technology - Helps users get more efficient performance by dynamically activating or turning off parts of the processor.
    • AMD Wideband Frequency Control - Allows the processor to respond more precisely to user demands, maximizing performance to deliver a better PC user experience.
    • Multi-Point Thermal Control - Prevents processor from creating too much heat and enables a cooler, quieter PC experience
    Last edited by neotokyo; 08-16-2019 at 04:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
    I've had no problem with slow boot on bios 2501, I have a USB 3.0 external hard drive always connected as well as a USB stick, a USB audio interface, a USB music controller and a watch charger.
    I have 7 external drives plugged in, and if I unplug them before boot, I post in around 10 seconds, but if I leave them plugged in, it takes 1-2 minutes to POST. Its an edge case for sure; it's just weird that an option like this got removed.

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    i used ch7 2501 bios. How the new bios version 2606. is it good and stable? Or should I continue using 2501?

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