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    Just updated to BIOS 2501 from 2203 and the default SOC voltage shows as ~1.12V according to HWIinfo64 when using 3200-14 memory. This seems a little high since even OC'd to 3333 1.0V is recommended by the memory OC'ing program. Am I missing something. Will 1.12V cause a long term problem with the SOC controller?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amadeus1171 View Post
    At least the mouse came back, right? :-D
    Yes, an advancement ...

    Quote Originally Posted by bigtop1967 View Post
    I'm just finding I can reduce ProcODT way lower than I could previously - just testing 32ohms. I couldn't go over 60 or below 53 previously.

    But I thought higher ODT was better for higher frequencies?
    Yes I have seen the same, see this post on OCN with data.

    Yes increased ProcODT was supposed to aid gaining higher frequencies.

    All in all the way Matisse is, it seems to fall over less for say POST when meddling with RAM. Gotta be training routines have improved as I've seen one or maybe two people, that may be in the know, stating IMC may have not changed between 2xxx and 3xxx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken429 View Post
    Just updated to BIOS 2501 from 2203 and the default SOC voltage shows as ~1.12V according to HWIinfo64 when using 3200-14 memory. This seems a little high since even OC'd to 3333 1.0V is recommended by the memory OC'ing program. Am I missing something. Will 1.12V cause a long term problem with the SOC controller?
    From what I've read, you shouldn't gover 1.2V for the SoC voltage. But do your own research to confirm before making any changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken429 View Post
    Just updated to BIOS 2501 from 2203 and the default SOC voltage shows as ~1.12V according to HWIinfo64 when using 3200-14 memory. This seems a little high since even OC'd to 3333 1.0V is recommended by the memory OC'ing program. Am I missing something. Will 1.12V cause a long term problem with the SOC controller?
    From what i've read\heard 1st gen ryzen 1.2v is recommended max and for 2nd gen 1.1v.
    I personally have it at 1.025v

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikimotel View Post
    My main issue with the BIOSes released, is with cold boot.
    The Voltage Dram under Digi+ power setting only works on warm reboots.
    My work-around procedure for both 2406 and 2501:
    1. Turn on power to PC (no standby nonsense)
    2. Push Clear CMOS button
    3. Turn on PC
    4. Wait for detection sequence and enter into BIOS (F1)
    5. Load my saved profile (with the recommended Vdram set to 1.35V and D.O.C.P. enabled - 3200Mhz FlareX profile)
    6. Save Setting and restart

    And, Yes. I turn of my computer / PSU when I'm not using it.
    When all you have to do is to set VDRAM Boot Voltage to 1.34-1.4V and it will always boot, cold or hot. Or am I missing something? Anyway, I always turn my PC off and it will always boot at once. Memory OC to 3400c16 with 2700X.

    Regarding the PSU thingie, I recently installed a H150i Pro and also had to reseat the cooling block with new(much better) paste, so no power twice. It didn't affect my OC at all, still boots at once.
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    Thanks for the information. I set the SOC voltage to Manual @ 1.0V and the SOC LLC to Level 2. HwInfo64 says 2700X: Enhanced SOC voltage @ .994V and ASUS WMI SOC voltage @ .981V. This is close to what the system had been running at for many months with the memory OC'd to 3333 prior to jumping from BIOS version 2203 to 2501. Does the new BIOS know "something" that it Defaults to the higher SOC voltage? Oh well, the system seems happy running all the usual stuff including Handbrake for an over an hour converting a blu-ray disc to an MP4 file.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken429 View Post
    Thanks for the information. I set the SOC voltage to Manual @ 1.0V and the SOC LLC to Level 2. HwInfo64 says 2700X: Enhanced SOC voltage @ .994V and ASUS WMI SOC voltage @ .981V. This is close to what the system had been running at for many months with the memory OC'd to 3333 prior to jumping from BIOS version 2203 to 2501. Does the new BIOS know "something" that it Defaults to the higher SOC voltage? Oh well, the system seems happy running all the usual stuff including Handbrake for an over an hour converting a blu-ray disc to an MP4 file.
    I must thank for this too, I could lower my SOC voltage to the same 0.994V, before it was at 1.134V.

    Memory still passes membench, and temps went down a little bit. Always good with these cpus using temp/power headroom to set boost. Still at 2700X.
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    moar UEFI 2501

    3800MHz 1:1:1 C16 GDME

    ZIP 1 of data link.

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    Benches last 6 screenies of this album.

    Note: The CB R15 multi score of 1676 has not scaled better than another PBO+150MHz run because of 3800MHz RAM, but having lower room temp allowed more sustained boosting. Below is CB R15 at PBO+200MHz, scales past usual PBO+150MHz, but really is not at it's best if I ref the 1676 result.

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    All the R5 3600/R7 2700X data in CB is from C7H, the other Ryzen CPUs are from C6H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtop1967 View Post
    You want them to push out firmware they have definitely found problems with? That would be irresponsible to say the least.

    Thats your misunderstanding, the version with issues is ABA, not AB

    Take care of that literacy problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squall Leonhart View Post
    Thats your misunderstanding, the version with issues is ABA, not AB

    Take care of that literacy problem.
    1.0.0.3AB is the "launch bios", which can't boot most Linux distributions and can't run Destiny 2 with Ryzen 3000. With a Ryzen 2000 it's probably better than the current bios based on 1.0.0.2. In example PBO limits not being locked down.

    1.0.0.3ABA was supposed to fix Linux and Destiny 2 by patching the RANDR functionality to something useful, but instead it borked PCIE.

    Both bioses are broken with Ryzen 3000, and if you run a Ryzen 2000 and wants the best experience I suppose the last bios based on PinnaclePi 1.0.0.6 would be the best bios.

    So, in conclusion, there is no real meaning in releasing a new bios until 1.0.0.3ABA is fixed by AMD. No word about that as of yet. There's no reason Asus would be worse than any other vendor when those fixed bioses finally arrives.

    If any comfort so is X570 broken with Linux/Destiny 2 as well, but I suppose PCIE 4.0 works better.

    I would say this is a very dodgy launch from AMD, not really Asus fault as all the other vendors are struggling as well.

    Icing on the cake was when Robert Hallock promised 4.75GHz boost in a video, not a single reviewer has been close and that is with the most expensive X570 boards. Why AMD, why do you have to over do marketing? Promise less, deliver more is better.
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