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    Hero XI BIOS 1105

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    After update can not boot with G.Skill F4-3600C17D-32GTZR XMP profile at all.
    I tryed to set DRAM 1.4V, VCCIO=1.2 and VCCSA=1.25, 18-18-18-38-T2, mode1, mode2, auto, auto voltage - it's just not work with any settings.
    With BIOS 0805 I was able to boot on 3600-3800 MHz but there was instability in tests.

    CPU: 9900k
    Last edited by Yes.ImP; 07-24-2019 at 11:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yes.ImP View Post
    Hi.

    After update can not boot with G.Skill F4-3600C17D-32GTZR XMP profile at all.
    I tryed to set DRAM 1.4V, VCCIO=1.2 and VCCSA=1.25, 18-18-18-38-T2, mode1, mode2, auto, auto voltage - it's just not work with any settings.
    With BIOS 0805 I was able to boot on 3800 MHz but there was instability in tests.

    CPU: 9900k
    Hey,

    I don't have solution for You but a question, I own these sticks as well and this RAM caused a lots of problems for me to run at rated spec at any bios version. How did You set them in earlier bioses in order to work? XMP or manual with higher timings? I ask because nothing was working for me, throwing higher voltages either.. Sometimes they would run only on first try with Mode 1 set in DRAM settings but running RAMTest for few seconds was enough to see a lot of errors. If I tried to restart PC it resulted in boot hang. In the end as I checked they are actually Samsung B Die I managed to set them at 3200 with low timings 14-14-14-34 2T (in Mode 2 for tighter other timings), DRAM 1.35V, VCCIO 1.05 and VCCSA 1.1.
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    Memory

    Quote Originally Posted by Yes.ImP View Post
    Hi.

    After update can not boot with G.Skill F4-3600C17D-32GTZR XMP profile at all.
    I tryed to set DRAM 1.4V, VCCIO=1.2 and VCCSA=1.25, 18-18-18-38-T2, mode1, mode2, auto, auto voltage - it's just not work with any settings.
    With BIOS 0805 I was able to boot on 3800 MHz but there was instability in tests.

    CPU: 9900k
    Stay on Bios 0602, i have tested all Bios except 1105,on my Wifi XI, 0602 it´s the most stable Bios for Memory
    The most IMC make 4133 or higher with 4x8GB B-Die.And use Mode1, with Mode 2 i can´t get higher than 4133.
    Max. stable 4x8GB 4500 but for that you need good IMC


    max. Performance stable 4x8gb 4350
    Last edited by Phoenix2000; 07-18-2019 at 09:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix2000 View Post
    Stay on Bios 0602, i have tested all Bios except 1105,on my Wifi XI, 0602 it´s the most stable Bios for Memory
    The most IMC make 4133 or higher with 4x8GB B-Die.And use Mode1, with Mode 2 i can´t get higher than 4133.
    Max. stable 4x8GB 4500 but for that you need good IMC


    max. Performance stable 4x8gb 4350
    I'm on 0905 Maximus XI Hero. If I would like to go back with 0602 should I install (and how) any of updates coming with new BIOSes (ie. ME FW, RST driver, etc.)?

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    You can normaly use all new driver etc. in Windows, but no Update´s coming from Bios, like the last Meltown patch etc..

    It´s your decision, never change a runing system is by this Board Bios 0602.The Last Bios Patch´s Meltown cost also Performance, so my decision is easy i stay and be happy with a Ultra fast and stable System.
    Spectre is save Meltown not by Tool Inspectre, with that i can life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix2000 View Post
    You can normaly use all new driver etc. in Windows, but no Update´s coming from Bios, like the last Meltown patch etc..

    It´s your decision, never change a runing system is by this Board Bios 0602.The Last Bios Patch´s Meltown cost also Performance, so my decision is easy i stay and be happy with a Ultra fast and stable System.
    Spectre is save Meltown not by Tool Inspectre, with that i can life.
    I've reverted back to 0602 and I have to say this is the most stable BIOS for me. I wonder why ASUS had to screw up something working before...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix2000 View Post
    You can normaly use all new driver etc. in Windows, but no Update´s coming from Bios, like the last Meltown patch etc..

    It´s your decision, never change a runing system is by this Board Bios 0602.The Last Bios Patch´s Meltown cost also Performance, so my decision is easy i stay and be happy with a Ultra fast and stable System.
    Spectre is save Meltown not by Tool Inspectre, with that i can life.
    @Phoenix2000, may I ask you to test WinRAR big file (>10GB) extraction when memory is set of MODE 1 and RAM running @38660Mhz or more?
    I have MXI Hero, i9-9900k @5GHz and TridentZ F4-3866C18Q-32GTZR. I'm able to successfuly pass WinRAR extraction of big rar file but only with Mode 2. In Mode 1 I got errors stating archive is corrupted (but archive consistency confirmed on other computer). My issue persists on two different TridentZ Quad kits. No matter what Maximus Tweak mode is set, Karhu RAM test passes with 13000% coverage.
    I'm very interested if this issue relates to my configuration only or it is Maximus XI HERO and TridentZ related thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix2000 View Post
    Stay on Bios 0602, i have tested all Bios except 1105,on my Wifi XI, 0602 it´s the most stable Bios for Memory

    I agree. I am still on 0602.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix2000 View Post
    Stay on Bios 0602, i have tested all Bios except 1105,on my Wifi XI, 0602 it´s the most stable Bios for Memory
    The most IMC make 4133 or higher with 4x8GB B-Die.And use Mode1, with Mode 2 i can´t get higher than 4133.
    Max. stable 4x8GB 4500 but for that you need good IMC


    max. Performance stable 4x8gb 4350
    Hey,

    Unfortunately we are in different boat - G.Skill F4-3600C17D-32GTZR is 2x16GB which is not on Asus QVL but it is at G.Skill QVL which I trusted and it was my mistake. Probably I could run these on 2 DIMM slot motherboard without problems. Got some spare kit G.Skill Trident Z 2x8GB 3000Mhz CL14, I can get them to 4000 but I wasted too much time for tuning timings without success to get error free Karhu Ram Test.
    Last edited by Melkor; 07-21-2019 at 10:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melkor View Post
    Hey,
    How did You set them in earlier bioses in order to work? XMP or manual with higher timings? I ask because nothing was working for me, throwing higher voltages either.. Sometimes they would run only on first try with Mode 1 set in DRAM settings but running RAMTest for few seconds was enough to see a lot of errors.
    With BIOS 0805 testmem5 passes 3 times and hci memtest passes 500% on 3600 17-17-17-38, 1.38V, 1.17 / 1.22.
    For a long time I was sure of stability until once got error in POST.
    G.Skill F4-3600C17D-32GTZR is 2x16GB which is not on Asus QVL but it is at G.Skill QVL which I trusted and it was my mistake.
    I did same mistake. The only hope - if Asus will test this kit. The answer from Asus:
    "Currently we haven't such DRAM modules in our lab, so we can't test them. But we will try to request test samples from G.Skill."

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