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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEEED View Post
    This is what I expected from those bioses. They work like on gigabyte lol
    Looks like bios 2501 is a keeper, rather have C5 some times than noticeably worse performance

    Using Auto OC even boost override works, I regularly have 4425MHz on three cores with my 3700X.

    Just ordered a 3900X, as it was back in stock, I do not have high hopes of availability for 3950X so I may just settle for this upgrade cycle. The 3700X will go inside my second box with Prime X470-Pro, I guess I will have to stay on AGESA 1.0.0.2(bios 5007) with the Prime Pro too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
    Well, well, boost is totally broken with this new 2701 bios. As with other 1.0.0.3 bioses. And 3800MHz memory is a total no-go, 3733MHz works. But this is a bad bios, only thing which is better is fail recovery now works.

    Going back to 2501.
    well i dont think your ram problems are bios related. im running 3800/1900 w/o problems.

    boost was better on 1.0.0.2 though, that is correct.

    general thought:
    1.0.0.3 increased my latency by ca. 1,5ns on ram. 1.0.0.3abb seems a bit faster than AB, i gained back ca. 0,5ns so this is a step in the right direction.

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    Thx for the new Bios!

    Bios 2701 did not work for me on my Crosshair VII Hero. Always got Q-Codes F2 and then finally F9. Could not get into the Bios with my 3700x and G.Skill F4-4133C19-8GTZC x2 (16GB). Had to return to 2501. After Returning to 2501 and flashing 2701 again, Bios seems to work.
    Last edited by bushd0c; 08-15-2019 at 11:07 AM. Reason: Success

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
    Looks like bios 2501 is a keeper, rather have C5 some times than noticeably worse performance

    Using Auto OC even boost override works, I regularly have 4425MHz on three cores with my 3700X.

    Just ordered a 3900X, as it was back in stock, I do not have high hopes of availability for 3950X so I may just settle for this upgrade cycle. The 3700X will go inside my second box with Prime X470-Pro, I guess I will have to stay on AGESA 1.0.0.2(bios 5007) with the Prime Pro too.
    Well I got on it myself. It's faster scores better than 2501 by 5GFlops/s in IBT and scores more in BC20 memory latency went up by 0.4ns
    Time for Memory testing maybe on this bios i could get cl14 3800 stable hehe



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    @Shamino This one could be a keeper

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    https://youtu.be/Q2qZDccqlMU

    Hmm it boots bit weird like starts stops starts again but its a fast one !!!!
    Last edited by ZEEED; 08-14-2019 at 06:03 PM.

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    Thanks, but it still broken



    Not sure if you read my previous post to you, but problems with RAM frequency and PBO persist. If you leave RAM frequency on auto, which makes it run at 3200, PBO works as it should. However, if you are setting the RAM frequency manually, it completely breaks PBO, and during the single-core load, CPU boosting all cores to 4275(3700x) which leads to much higher temps(because all cores boost instead of just one) and lower performance since it loses 125Mhz. And as with a previous version, I no longer can bump the PBO with BCLK, CPU just drops to 3600 and no longer boosts. We also missing BCLK asynchronous mode.
    Also, Asus Suite shows CPU voltage +0.06 in auto mode. I noticed that MoBos from other vendors use much lower voltages by default.

    I understand that this is still a beta, but "not fully validated" makes me think that you, guys, are about to roll it out officially despite all those issues, which is a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EZ_PC_TECH View Post
    Not sure if you read my previous post to you, but problems with RAM frequency and PBO persist. If you leave RAM frequency on auto, which makes it run at 3200, PBO works as it should. However, if you are setting the RAM frequency manually, it completely breaks PBO, and during the single-core load, CPU boosting all cores to 4275(3700x) which leads to much higher temps(because all cores boost instead of just one) and lower performance since it loses 125Mhz. And as with a previous version, I no longer can bump the PBO with BCLK, CPU just drops to 3600 and no longer boosts. We also missing BCLK asynchronous mode.
    Also, Asus Suite shows CPU voltage +0.06 in auto mode. I noticed that MoBos from other vendors use much lower voltages by default.

    I understand that this is still a beta, but "not fully validated" makes me think that you, guys, are about to roll it out officially despite all those issues, which is a bad idea.
    Thank you, that's what I wanted to know.

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    ROG Guru: Orange Belt Array xeizo PC Specs
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    Also noticed VDDP and VDDG got bumped up with +0.1V on bios 2701, and it persisted even after Bios Flashback, I had to reset 2501 after Flashback to get back to the lower and imho nicer voltages( 0.900 VDDP and 0.950 VDDG )

    I did get memory working at 3733MHz, with a slight bump in VDIMM 1.37V instead of 1.35V on bios 2501. But as 3800MHz is rock solid on 2501 it's a clear regression. But anyway, since boost clocks are way worse: 4225 on one core and 4175 on the rest vs 4425 on three cores, 4350 on two and 4400 on the rest in 2501. It has no chance even if I could tweak the memory.

    edit. and 2501 feels much smoother in Windows, in fact extreme smooth, 2701 was kinda stuttery.
    Last edited by xeizo; 08-14-2019 at 06:26 PM.

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    This is on a C7H wifi.

    Can confirm the PBO bug when setting the memory speed even on a 3900X, super annoying.

    Also getting an issue when rebooting the board gets stuck on Q-Code 01 and doesn't even spin up the CPU fan, if I then press the restart button it boots normally.

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    I can't say 2602 or 2701 are any different in windows usage, seem as smooth as 2406/2501/0068.

    Default ProODT had shifted in 0068/2602/2701 vs 2406/2501, 40 vs 60.

    In 2701 RTT defaults when using 4x8GB has changed vs 2406/2501/0068/2602. Instead of 34/120/240 (7/2/1) it's now 34/80/240 (7/3/1).

    I watch post process voltages on digital multimeter, to not have SOC bounce to ~1.1V and then my set value on:-

    i) UEFI 2406/2501 I use AMD Overclocking to set SOC and also set VDDP/VDDG there.

    ii) UEFI 0068/2602 I use Extreme Tweaker/Tweakers Paradise.

    ii) UEFI 2701 I use AMD Overclocking to set SOC, must have SOC voltage mode on Extreme Tweaker as Offset/Auto/+ and also set VDDP/VDDG in AMD Overclocking.

    If I do as stated on each UEFI, then through complete POST process SOC as set value excluding usual droop as LLC is [Auto].

    All UEFI so far allow 3800MHz on 4x8GB for me also.
    Last edited by gupsterg; 08-14-2019 at 10:44 PM. Reason: RTT settings corrected
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