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    Quote Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
    Also noticed VDDP and VDDG got bumped up with +0.1V on bios 2701, and it persisted even after Bios Flashback, I had to reset 2501 after Flashback to get back to the lower and imho nicer voltages( 0.900 VDDP and 0.950 VDDG )

    I did get memory working at 3733MHz, with a slight bump in VDIMM 1.37V instead of 1.35V on bios 2501. But as 3800MHz is rock solid on 2501 it's a clear regression. But anyway, since boost clocks are way worse: 4225 on one core and 4175 on the rest vs 4425 on three cores, 4350 on two and 4400 on the rest in 2501. It has no chance even if I could tweak the memory.

    edit. and 2501 feels much smoother in Windows, in fact extreme smooth, 2701 was kinda stuttery.
    You must have something broken with windows install so far everything works better on my system than on 2501 atm im 3000% in ramtest.
    Boots faster and scores more.

    Then Again im on full stop Manual moge everywhere i can think off. From cpu setting to whole voltages page half of paradise tweeker whole memory section and so on

    :@gupsterg new performance bias on this 2701 CB15 Agressive must be mega aggressive crashed on windows loading hahaahha
    Last edited by ZEEED; 08-14-2019 at 06:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post
    I can't say 2602 or 2701All UEFI so far allow 3800MHz on 4x8GB for me also.
    I have 2x16GB dual rank, and the same settings did not work in both bioses. The memory settings which are rock solid in 2501 made the board sound the alarm signal at boot and reset to 2133MHz/c15. Same settings and just a bump from 1.35V to 1.37V made 3733MHz work, but not 3800MHz.

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    ROG Guru: Orange Belt Array xeizo PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEEED View Post
    You must have something broken with windows install so far everything works better on my system than on 2501 atm im 3000% in ramtest.
    Boots faster and scores more.

    Then Again im on full stop Manual moge everywhere i can think off. From cpu setting to whole voltages page half of paradise tweeker whole memory section and so on

    :@gupsterg new performance bias on this 2701 CB15 Agressive must be mega aggressive crashed on windows loading hahaahha

    I do not think Windows is broken sfc /scannow finds zero errors and I have no WHEA errors in Windows log, all memory settings are manual and Membench runs with no errors. As does all other benchmarks/games/programs.

    I haven't set ALL settings in the bios manual, as there are hundreds of settings spread over Asus vs AMD pages but the essential as VTT DDR, VDDP, VDDG, MEMCLK, UCLK, FCLK, IF, SOC, VDIMM, PLL and all settings in Digi+ are manual. Vcore is Auto as is most of the more exotic settings. Oh, and CSM is turned off.

    With 2501 everything runs very well, it's just the little bugs like C5 and no Windows sleep.

    I can't understand how anything but pure memory benchmarks will run better on 2701 for any of you, as CPU clocks are much lower and boost is dysfunctional
    (and this is mirrored with other vendors, Gigabyte and Asrock boost is also broken on 1.0.0.3)
    Last edited by xeizo; 08-14-2019 at 08:01 PM.

  4. #444
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    Quote Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
    I don not think Windows is broken sfc /scannow finds zero errors and I have no WHEA errors in Windows log, all memory settings are manual and Membench runs with no errors. As does all other benchmarks/games/programs.

    I haven't set ALL settings in the bios manual, as there are hundreds of settings spread over Asus vs AMD pages but the essential as VTT DDR, VDDP, VDDG, MEMCLK, UCLK, FCLK, IF, SOC, VDIMM, PLL and all settings in Digi+ are manual. Vcore is Auto as is most of the more exotic settings. Oh, and CSM is turned off.

    With 2501 everything runs very well, it's just the little bugs like C5 and no Windows sleep.

    I can't understand how anything but pure memory benchmarks will run better on 2701 for any of you, as CPU clocks are much lower and boost is dysfunctional
    (and this is mirrored with other vendors, Gigabyte and Asrock boost is also broken on 1.0.0.3)
    Because We are running constant all core overclock so boost PBO ect bugs dont affect us at all.

    I got only few things changed under AMD section the options that are not under asus menus.

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    BCLK seems broken on the C6H. Just forces the cpu into overclock mode and drops to baseclock 1.2v.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEEED View Post
    Because We are running constant all core overclock so boost PBO ect bugs dont affect us at all.

    I got only few things changed under AMD section the options that are not under asus menus.
    Ok, so you are running a manual OC, that explains a lot. I'm rather fond of Auto OC for the downclocks and energy savings, but I will dig deeper into manual OC when the 3900X arrives, as individual core OC in Ryzen Master looks like a very nice option. Even better than all core OC

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    i'm on 7401, after doing some game testing, i've noticed semi frequent LONG stutters with audio going nuts in Deus Ex Mankind Divided. Ryzen 3600 with C6H.

    Update: So running the CPU-Z stress test or benchmark a few times, then afterwards the computer completely crashes. Can't access critical system files. So it isn't exactly a BSOD, but rather it seems stuff gets disconnected according to the data i see when this happens.

    Also, I see the Performance Bias function has been updated for 3rd Gen Ryzen, what is it's default position? I hope it is none.
    Last edited by TechyInAZ; 08-14-2019 at 08:52 PM. Reason: update

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikev190 View Post
    BCLK seems broken on the C6H. Just forces the cpu into overclock mode and drops to baseclock 1.2v.
    Same here. Broken BCLK, broken RAM frequency/PBO, lots of cold boots with Ad/07/etc q-codes, BSODs etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
    Ok, so you are running a manual OC, that explains a lot. I'm rather fond of Auto OC for the downclocks and energy savings, but I will dig deeper into manual OC when the 3900X arrives, as individual core OC in Ryzen Master looks like a very nice option. Even better than all core OC
    well you missing out cause with manual overclocking it all works cores goes to sleep and on windows cpu draws like 26w


    GUYS
    On other note Dont have PCIE on AUTO set gen 3 i think Gen 4 is bugged like agesa does not ahve it but auto tris to turn it on and you get stutter

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    ROG Guru: Orange Belt Array xeizo PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEEED View Post
    well you missing out cause with manual overclocking it all works cores goes to sleep and on windows cpu draws like 26w


    GUYS
    On other note Dont have PCIE on AUTO set gen 3 i think Gen 4 is bugged like agesa does not ahve it but auto tris to turn it on and you get stutter
    That explains why the Nvidia driver reinstalled itself with 2701, I have had no stutter at all on 2501, it looks like a AGESA 1.0.0.3-thing.

    edit. My cores go to sleep just fine with Auto OC, on 2501, but I will explore manual OC anyways.
    Last edited by xeizo; 08-14-2019 at 09:33 PM.

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