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    Ok
    I noticed that my 3900X with 7302 bios is working good.
    With HWmonitor I notice almost 4600mhz boost clocks with only PBO on.
    And I can see cores going to sleep and low frequency like sub 1000mhz.
    BUT...

    Problem is Voltage. Even little load on core and it jumps 1.4-1.5V. I mean under 5% loads.
    Maybe its SenseMI but its way too sensitive to boost all the way up.
    Light loads (under 33%) it should only boost to base clock with lower voltages.
    But with higher loads like (over 50%) full boost would be fine.

    So temperatures would stay lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturmer View Post
    Ok
    I noticed that my 3900X with 7302 bios is working good.
    With HWmonitor I notice almost 4600mhz boost clocks with only PBO on.
    And I can see cores going to sleep and low frequency like sub 1000mhz.
    BUT...

    Problem is Voltage. Even little load on core and it jumps 1.4-1.5V. I mean under 5% loads.
    Maybe its SenseMI but its way too sensitive to boost all the way up.
    Light loads (under 33%) it should only boost to base clock with lower voltages.
    But with higher loads like (over 50%) full boost would be fine.
    This is not a Intel cpu, short 1.5V peaks in idle is fine, it's by design. If you remove it you loose the fast boost feature.

    People like you are currently making AMD regressing their AGESA:s on public demand, and everybody will get less performance.

    edt. and Volts by itself does not make higher temps, you need something going on consuming current to raise the temps. Learn Ohms law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EddieZ View Post
    I was actually hoping for some improvements on memory compatibility.

    On the 48xx series BIOS I could use DOCP to run memory on 3600MHz, the 5007 version gives max 3200MHz on DOCP...
    I oc'ed my micron sticks to 3600 CL16 on Prime X470 Pro with 5007 BIOS and DOCP on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EddieZ View Post
    I was actually hoping for some improvements on memory compatibility.

    On the 48xx series BIOS I could use DOCP to run memory on 3600MHz, the 5007 version gives max 3200MHz on DOCP...
    Then don't use DOCP, I got 3400 torture stable on Prime Plus with 5007. I've seen others with Ryzen 3000 go above 3600MHz. On my CH7 with Ryzen 3000 I run 3733MHz torture stable. In neither case DOCP, but timings and subtimings suggested by Ryzen Dram Calculator which is a really helpful piece of software

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
    So bios 2501 will still be the better performer when this new bios(2703?) arrives? 2501 frequently boosts to 4.4GHz with 3700X, 2602 was stuck at 4275MHz.

    I guess I rather have better performance and a few annoying bugs, and will probably wait for 1.0.0.4 or later.

    And I also guess the advertised +200MHz boost function will never work, I suppose AMD will have to remove it from all their promo material and remove it from the bioses. Maybe it will work for another stepping of the cpus on 7nm+.

    Thanks for keeping us informed Shamino!

    Btw, FYI so has PPT, TDC and EDC gone completely frozen in Ryzen Master for me. Erasing and reinstalling the program with full shutdown in between doesn't help. Package Power is also frozen in HWINFO64. CPU+SOC power works, topping out at 111W under torture with the 3700X. 2501 is bug ridden, but performs pretty well.

    The frequent C5 on reboot is annoying, but shutdown solves it every time.
    WOW, 4400 that is pretty good. I am getting 4219 running a blender benchmark with either bios, didn't seem to matter for me.
    What cooler you using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swagielka View Post
    Any news on the Strix x570-E Bios? It's latest bios is from 5/7 :/
    +1 on that. Need Strix-E bios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave1717 View Post
    WOW, 4400 that is pretty good. I am getting 4219 running a blender benchmark with either bios, didn't seem to matter for me.
    What cooler you using?
    It's not that good, it's single core boost, granted 7 of 8 cores hits 4.4GHz. But not at the same time. All core torture like CB20 is 4150-4175MHz. Lighter loads it's 4300MHz.

    I use a Corsair H150i Pro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
    It's not that good, it's single core boost, granted 7 of 8 cores hits 4.4GHz. But not at the same time. All core torture like CB20 is 4150-4175MHz. Lighter loads it's 4300MHz.

    I use a Corsair H150i Pro.
    Ahh ok, good cooling then, mine doesn't get close to that using h 115i.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
    This is not a Intel cpu, short 1.5V peaks in idle is fine, it's by design. If you remove it you loose the fast boost feature.

    People like you are currently making AMD regressing their AGESA:s on public demand, and everybody will get less performance.

    edt. and Volts by itself does not make higher temps, you need something going on consuming current to raise the temps. Learn Ohms law.
    Okey...
    But voltage is constantly up in 1.4-1.5V because cpu reacts in everything really sensitively.
    We all have many back ground applications. That means that even browser open and im off the computer, it keeps jumping over 4ghz and 1.4-1.5V. All loads are less than 5%.

    If AMD says its ok then fine. But i really want my warranty if it breaks.

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