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    ROG Guru: Orange Belt Array xeizo PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturmer View Post
    Okey...
    But voltage is constantly up in 1.4-1.5V because cpu reacts in everything really sensitively.
    We all have many back ground applications. That means that even browser open and im off the computer, it keeps jumping over 4ghz and 1.4-1.5V. All loads are less than 5%.

    If AMD says its ok then fine. But i really want my warranty if it breaks.
    AMD has said it's OK, check Robert Hallocks posts on Reddit!

    edit. what is annoying is if the fans ramps for nothing, best thing is to set fan curves manually to not start ramp until 55-60C and above that rather steep. Really steep above 70C.
    Last edited by xeizo; 07-31-2019 at 07:28 PM.

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    Any guesses when the firmware for the Crosshair VIII Hero will be released?
    Anxious to try it but don't think it's wise running the beta from dropbox.

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    ROG Guru: Orange Belt Array xeizo PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukat View Post
    Any guesses when the firmware for the Crosshair VIII Hero will be released?
    Anxious to try it but don't think it's wise running the beta from dropbox.
    All bioses are sort of beta right now, if you want a real solid bios you will have to wait. The betas are from Shamino so it's a reputable source. You can as well test the Beta if you like. The only thing we know about it is Shamino said it has "weak boost", probably meaning you wont hit very high single core peak clocks using PBO. But it's possible it's very good for normal all core OC. We will not know until someone has tried it and reported back.

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    What would be a proper process to install an older BIOS? is it just the same way you update the BIOS or anything else needs to be done to go backwards?

  5. #195
    ROG Guru: Orange Belt Array xeizo PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max1mus91 View Post
    What would be a proper process to install an older BIOS? is it just the same way you update the BIOS or anything else needs to be done to go backwards?
    Use Bios Flashback, it works with downgrades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturmer View Post
    Okey...
    But voltage is constantly up in 1.4-1.5V because cpu reacts in everything really sensitively.
    We all have many back ground applications. That means that even browser open and im off the computer, it keeps jumping over 4ghz and 1.4-1.5V. All loads are less than 5%.

    If AMD says its ok then fine. But i really want my warranty if it breaks.
    You should be worried if you're seeing those voltages at HIGH loads, not light ones. You can watch this video on why this is and how modern day boost algorithms work. (Intel's boost is a bit ancient at this point) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZI9ZgwrDYg

    Besides, if you are running stock there will be no valid reason for AMD to deny a warranty claim. Only thing I'd worry about is ASUS messing with voltages themselves on 'Auto' settings, like what The Stilt identified with the Formula and possibly other X570 boards.

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    I installed the 802 beta bios on my Crosshair VIII Hero x570 with the new AMD chipset drivers running new Ryzen Balanced power profile.
    Core voltage remains 1.48v when idling at desktop. (I am not overclocking CPU)
    Idle temp ~40C, approx 2-4C warmer than pre-bios update.
    Assassins Creed Odyssey benchmarks 5fps slower than pre-update.
    Hitman 2 benchmarks 3fps slower than pre-update.
    Seems a flop to me, I gained nothing and lost performance.

    Update 1
    Temps go back to ~46C desktop idle & fps goes back to where it was when using Windows High Performance profile with CPU set to 1% / 100%.
    Cooler temp & better performance vs. Ryzen Balanced post AMD chipset update.
    Last edited by Dukat; 08-01-2019 at 03:33 AM. Reason: update

  8. #198
    ROG Guru: Orange Belt Array xeizo PC Specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukat View Post
    I installed the 802 beta bios on my Crosshair VIII Hero x570 with the new AMD chipset drivers running new Ryzen Balanced power profile.
    Core voltage remains 1.48v when idling at desktop. (I am not overclocking CPU)
    Idle temp ~40C, approx 2-4C warmer than pre-bios update.
    Assassins Creed Odyssey benchmarks 5fps slower than pre-update.
    Hitman 2 benchmarks 3fps slower than pre-update.
    Seems a flop to me, I gained nothing and lost performance.

    Update 1
    Temps go back to ~46C desktop idle & fps goes back to where it was when using Windows High Performance profile with CPU set to 1% / 100%.
    Cooler temp & better performance vs. Ryzen Balanced post AMD chipset update.

    Confirms Shamino saying it has weak boost, AMD is putting out less than great AGESA:s now. Looks like us using C7H will be staying on bios 2501 with AGESA 1.0.0.2 for quite some time, it's the best performing AGESA for Ryzen 3000 so far. Plenty of bugs, but better than slow and hot performance.

    Regarding the chipset driver, best performance is rolling back to old driver from 7/7 and then install only the new Ryzen Power Plan on top of it. Not all the other stuff, works great best of both worlds!
    Last edited by xeizo; 08-01-2019 at 09:18 AM.

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    @Shamino
    The 0001 beta BIOS fixed the 07 code for me, but it just boots into an unresponsive BIOS (without me pressing anything) or a
    responsive BIOS though safemode. I can't get into Windows. When I swap back to the R7 1700 the problem is still there and I have to
    flashback to a BIOS that doesn't have Zen 2 (the ones prior to the 7000 bios) support for it to work again.
    This is on a C6H with 16GB (2×8GB) of Crucial Ballistix 3000CL15 RAM.
    I've tried twice to flash the beta BIOS but it still happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cursecut3r View Post
    @Shamino
    The 0001 beta BIOS fixed the 07 code for me, but it just boots into an unresponsive BIOS (without me pressing anything) or a
    responsive BIOS though safemode. I can't get into Windows. When I swap back to the R7 1700 the problem is still there and I have to
    flashback to a BIOS that doesn't have Zen 2 (the ones prior to the 7000 bios) support for it to work again.
    This is on a C6H with 16GB (2×8GB) of Crucial Ballistix 3000CL15 RAM.
    I've tried twice to flash the beta BIOS but it still happens.
    Try with bios v7304

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