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08-19-2019 04:24 PM #1
weare PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG CROSSHAIR VI HERO (WI-FI AC) Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Memory (part number) F4-3200C14D-32GTZR Graphics Card #1 Asus ROG Strix RX VEGA56 Monitor Multiple CPU Cooler Noctua D15S Case Fractal Design Meshify C Power Supply Be Quiet! STRAIGHT POWER 11 OS Arch Linux
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Crosshair VI Wifi, fan control / sensors are broken
Hello.
I'm using c6h wifi motherboard with 3700x CPU and currently experiencing a lot of problems with fan control / sensors on recent bios versions. I did expect some problems when i was building this system (bleeding edge bios, etc), but i never thought there will be so much issues with such a basic functionality as temperature control.
I have 1 CPU fan and 3 PWM case fans (Noctua A14/A12). #1 and #2 case fans should change RPM depending on CPU temperature, and #3 depends on PCH temperature. Basically it works fine for some time (usually 2-10 hours), but then the expected behavior breaks in many different ways:
1. This is the most common issue i'm experiencing right now. Usually fans should spin around 800-900 RPM when the system is in idle state. When this problem happens, RPM decreases to 400-500 and the more i load my CPU the less RPM i get until fans completely stop. And it happens to all CPU-related fans. This is so ridiculous i even made the video — https://streamable.com/i3379 where you can see the idle behavior (~400 rpm) and what happens when i load my CPU using 'stress' utility. I've tried different fan profiles (silent, standard, etc), different low speed, delays and nothing changed. I've checked and can confirm that fans are really stopping, so it's not just monitor tool issue. The fix is to reboot the system.
2. Motherboard temperature sensors just stop working and hang up on the last value it was, even though RPM sensors still work. Once more, it's not the monitoring tool related problem because fans aren't changing the speed if i load my CPU. For instance, if CPU temperature hangs up on ~50C temperature, fans will still have ~800 RPM even if i stress my CPU (usually in this case RPM should increase up to 1500). The fix is to reboot the system.
3. Fan is just completely ignoring the component's temperature. I had this issue on my fan #3, which wasn't changing idle RPM even though my PCH temperature was already around 80. The fix is to reboot the system.
4. Fan gets stuck at 100% RPM. This usually happens on my fan #3 when i cold boot my system. Rebooting the system didn't help me though, i had to clear CMOS (or make some changings in the bios) to fix this.
So basically my system is barely usable right now, i have to constantly monitor the sensors and regularly reboot my system when something breaks again. Otherwise this behavior can possible damage my CPU/motherboard due to overheat in high-load scenarios. As far as i can see, other people are experiencing pretty much similar fan-related problems i do, so it's not just defect motherboard i have.
I've been using ASUS motherboards for 17 years starting from P4PE and you can imagine how disappointed i am right now. In my opinion this kind of issues are critical and should be investigate ASAP. I hope my report can be useful, and this situation won't end with changing motherboard to another vendor.Last edited by weare; 08-19-2019 at 11:53 PM.
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08-20-2019 02:53 PM #2
weare PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG CROSSHAIR VI HERO (WI-FI AC) Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Memory (part number) F4-3200C14D-32GTZR Graphics Card #1 Asus ROG Strix RX VEGA56 Monitor Multiple CPU Cooler Noctua D15S Case Fractal Design Meshify C Power Supply Be Quiet! STRAIGHT POWER 11 OS Arch Linux
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Trying to find the less broken bios and still no success.
Issue #1 appears on 7306 and probably 7201
Issue #2 happened just a few times and i'm not quite sure if i experienced it anywhere besides 7201 (but probably other versions are affected as well)
Issue #3 appears on every bios including 7306, 7201 and 7106
Issue #4 isn't that critical since it can be fixed by clearing CMOS, but it happened on multiple bios versions as well
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08-22-2019 11:04 AM #3
IIINikolaiIII PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero Processor Ryzen 5 2600 Memory (part number) 16GB Kingston HyperX Predator 3200 CL16 Graphics Card #1 Gigabyte GTX 1070 Monitor Asus 24" VG248QZ CPU Cooler Fractal Design Celsius S36 Case Fractal Design Define R5 Power Supply Superflower 850W Leadex Gold Keyboard ROG Strix Flare Mouse Razer DeathAdder Elite Headset Sennheiser HD599 OS Windows 10 Pro 1903
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I have same issues with C7H where all of my fans just stop and causes a thermal shutdown. Still looking for a solution.
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08-23-2019 03:17 AM #4
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08-23-2019 02:35 PM #5
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Gonna try out the 0002 bios to see if it works. I have only seen the fan problem recently as I attached 3 fans to the motherboard directly for looks. Previous I had no fans actually connected to the C7H WiFi but since I have added these 3 fans...I have one that will shut off then turn on and back and forth and the RGB goes off and stays off.
This has been a non issue for me since I use a seperate fan controller and really is a non issue now as these are decorative fans. Anyhow I will test it out for a few days...and then mod the bios and upload it for you to look at with the features and fan control we should have that is already present. Which board do you work with mostly keep in mind the modded bios only show these options for ryzen series 1000/2000 cpus. I have not yet figured out how to unhide them for 3000. But the point is I am wanting to show you the features everyone wants that already exist in the bios. Also the fan controls that are hidden can prevent most of the fan stopping issues as well.
The most requested features are HPET, Spread Spectrum contol options to be able to enable or disable. And then the extra fan controls. The rest of the things I unhide and make usable are not ever really mentioned on OCN or reddit. Also this is a big request for the Ryzen 3000 series users as well.
And a big shout out and THANKS YOU for reaching out to us. Since you stepped up to the plate you are making a world of difference. I am getting ready to buy my a x570 board and was not gonna use ASUS again with the departure of Elmor and the lack of communication, now I am again considering ASUS for 10+ years in a row. This is due to your presence. I know I am only one user but many others felt this way as well based on comments at OCN. I have had many MBs from y'all over more then 10 years.Last edited by TaijRai; 08-23-2019 at 02:43 PM.
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08-23-2019 10:50 PM #6
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08-24-2019 07:07 AM #7
Fearnor PC Specs Motherboard ASUS ROG Crosshair VII Hero (Wi-Fi) Processor AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Memory (part number) G.SKILL F4-3600C17D-32GTZR Graphics Card #1 MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X 11G Monitor LG 27UK650-W Storage #1 Samsung 860 EVO 2.5 500GB Storage #2 Western Digital Red 3.5 4TB NAS HDD CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15S Case Fractal Design Define R5 Power Supply Seasonic Platinum SS-1000XP 1000W Keyboard Corsair STRAFE RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Mouse Corsair GLAIVE RGB Gaming Mouse Headset Kingston HyperX Cloud II OS Windows 10 1903
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Anyone using the 0002 Beta UEFI and not experiencing the fan issue anymore?
I installed it this morning on C7H Wi-Fi and I'll be testing.
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08-22-2019 12:34 PM #8
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hi can you try this version to see if issue disappears?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ts6dclcqw...-0002.rar?dl=0
let me know whether yes or no
Edit: (check potential fix)
c6h wifi
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ts6dclcqw...-0002.rar?dl=0
c6h non wifi
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fcna089f3y...-0002.rar?dl=0
c6e
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8t34vcfn09...-0003.rar?dl=0
c7h wifi
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f71clkig2i...-0002.rar?dl=0
c7h non wifi
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5rzk9nt5v2...-0002.rar?dl=0
Strix B450 -E
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8btojisa3b...-0002.rar?dl=0
Strix X470-I
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1bw0wm22bf...-0002.rar?dl=0Last edited by Shamino; 08-23-2019 at 06:05 AM.
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08-22-2019 01:56 PM #9
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hi*Shamino, can you post test bios also for my mobo?*regular crosshair vi hero (non wifi)
I have the same problem with the fans that suddenly stop working, also at the boot the fan of my Nvidia rtx 2080 start at 100% then return to normal after 4-5 seconds,*on overclock.net forum many users have same bug
thank you*
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08-22-2019 04:32 PM #10
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