09-01-2019 12:47 AM - last edited on 03-06-2024 09:57 PM by ROGBot
09-01-2019 03:14 AM
09-01-2019 04:26 AM
Iridium28 wrote:
I'd recommend starting with remounting your cooler. Take the CPU cooler off, clean up the thermal paste on both the CPU IHS and cooler base, reapply thermal paste and re-mount the cooler. Based on your description I'd lean toward this being the problem.
You can also try entering bios and disabling MCE (ASUS Multicore Enhancement). I'd doubt this would create a 22C increase in temperature for that processor at default bios settings, and it certainly shouldn't lead to 60C at idle, but it's easy to check temps with it disabled. You should be able to find that within the AI Tweaker tab in bios under advanced mode.
09-01-2019 05:05 PM
09-03-2019 06:35 AM
Iridium28 wrote:
Well, the cooler recommendation was because it would be the expected behavior if there was an issue there. Not enough thermal paste, too much, a poor spread, not enough mounting pressure, the cooler isn't seated perfectly, etc. This type of issue inevitably finds a way to happen when moving processors to new boards. It's also partially why it's generally a best practice to remove and reapply thermal paste when doing so.
If it's not an issue there I would start by updating your bios to the latest version.
If this doesn't fix the problem check voltages. Boards tend to default to higher voltages than necessary to ensure stability under auto settings (as do CPU's in terms of what they request from the board, or the VID). Some are worse than others about it. So if you can, try to find out where those are running. I'd recommend installing HWinfo for monitoring software to check this because it's quite robust and often more accurate compared to various alternatives. Specifically, find out what it is showing for the following at idle and when under load...
https://www.hwinfo.com/download/
1. Vcore
2. CPU_VCCSA
3. CPU_VCCIO
You might have to scroll down to find the values in the program. They should be listed under the heading for your board. While you're there, check fan speeds as well. They are likely under the same heading for the board. Verify those are running at the expected values when idle and under load.
I'd check what the bios is defaulting to for LLC (Load Line Calibration). You can probably find this under AI Tweaker > Digi+ VRM, or something similar. It should tell you what it's aiming for beside the setting. If it's displaying 7 or one of the higher values I'd manually drop it down to a middle of the pack value (around 3-4 on ASUS boards).
All of this aside, upgrading the cooler is probably wise. I do not believe I've ever come across a processor where the default cooler was.... satisfactory. 8700's like to behave as if they're trying to find out what it feels like to survive re-entry in the first place.
09-03-2019 07:46 PM
Iridium28 wrote:
Well, the cooler recommendation was because it would be the expected behavior if there was an issue there. Not enough thermal paste, too much, a poor spread, not enough mounting pressure, the cooler isn't seated perfectly, etc. This type of issue inevitably finds a way to happen when moving processors to new boards. It's also partially why it's generally a best practice to remove and reapply thermal paste when doing so.
If it's not an issue there I would start by updating your bios to the latest version.
If this doesn't fix the problem check voltages. Boards tend to default to higher voltages than necessary to ensure stability under auto settings (as do CPU's in terms of what they request from the board, or the VID). Some are worse than others about it. So if you can, try to find out where those are running. I'd recommend installing HWinfo for monitoring software to check this because it's quite robust and often more accurate compared to various alternatives. Specifically, find out what it is showing for the following at idle and when under load...
https://www.hwinfo.com/download/
1. Vcore
2. CPU_VCCSA
3. CPU_VCCIO
You might have to scroll down to find the values in the program. They should be listed under the heading for your board. While you're there, check fan speeds as well. They are likely under the same heading for the board. Verify those are running at the expected values when idle and under load.
I'd check what the bios is defaulting to for LLC (Load Line Calibration). You can probably find this under AI Tweaker > Digi+ VRM, or something similar. It should tell you what it's aiming for beside the setting. If it's displaying 7 or one of the higher values I'd manually drop it down to a middle of the pack value (around 3-4 on ASUS boards).
All of this aside, upgrading the cooler is probably wise. I do not believe I've ever come across a processor where the default cooler was.... satisfactory. 8700's like to behave as if they're trying to find out what it feels like to survive re-entry in the first place.
09-04-2019 10:38 PM
RoshGG wrote:
Hi there, I installed HWInfo and this is what i got on Vcore, CPU VCCSA and VCCIO
I swap again to the Aorus H370 Gaming 3 and make new test, i got very good temperatures with that board.
09-05-2019 04:40 AM
Iridium28 wrote:
If changing the board causes your problem I'd lean toward the ASUS board being the culprit as well.
In terms of your HWInfo....
Vcore at ~1.25 as a maximum at auto doesn't seem that far out there. Your CPU could probably run it lower but I'd leave it alone for now.
VCCIO and SA could probably be a little lower but I would leave them alone for now (ASUS bios like to inflate these on auto...).
I will say your memory voltage looks off. You said you weren't using XMP and it's showing 1.52v on the ram. Assuming it's reading correctly that looks... really high. I think that memory is supposed to default to 1.35v while under XMP. I'd check your bios to make sure nothing is set incorrectly for the memory. One option there would be to load into bios and reset it to default settings. If that doesn't fix it you may need to manually assign it's voltage to 1.35 (can prob go lower toward 1.2v or so with XMP off entirely but to avoid any issues I'd start at 1.35v).
Based on the power draw in that HWInfo I'd keep MCE disabled. You've indicated you want to run the system at stock settings and MCE really... wouldn't be.
The only other thing I can think of is the CPU cooler mounting mechanism with that board isn't creating enough pressure between the cooler and CPU IHS.
Beyond that upgrading the default CPU cooler would probably go a long way toward improving your temps.
09-05-2019 12:44 PM
09-06-2019 12:15 AM