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01-22-2020 11:23 PM #1
1mluer PC Specs Motherboard Maximus XII Apex Processor I9-10900k Memory (part number) Gskill Trident Royal 4400 Graphics Card #1 ROG Matrix 2080 ti Sound Card built in Monitor ASUS Swift PG348Q Storage #1 Samsung 970 EVO Plus Raid Storage #2 Samsung 970 EVO Plus Raid CPU Cooler Ryujin 360 Case InWin 909 Silver Power Supply ROG Thor 1200p Keyboard ASUS ROG Claymore Mouse Logitech G900 Mouse Pad ASUS ROG Baltheus Headset/Speakers Bose Computer Set with Sub OS Windows 10 Pro Network Router NightHawk RAX200 Accessory #1 TT Riing Plus Accessory #2 Blue Microphone
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Wow looking for answers / ideas to what happen
Hey Gang,
I have a Maximus XI Apex that went nuts this morning. Getting all kinds of codes 61 or b1, 78, 7F, 04 as error codes that lock up the system. It was running perfect and I mean perfect for at least the last 6 months. OC worked well and stabile and no software problems other than Aura Sync.
I turned it on this morning, It automatically shut down and restarted on it's own (like bios changes) and then locked up at B1 or 61 and would not post at all. It locked up hard to the point power up/down was the only reset. I got ASUS in chat on my laptop and we did everything remove battery, clear cmos, reloaded bios etc. It was stuck solid at b1 or 61. I flipped the memOK button and was able to sloppily enter bios. The machine lost everything, RAID profile and common settings. It was like the motherboard just zeroed out it's NVRAM or something around bios. It remembered nothing. I messed with it all morning and loaded all defaults in bios and recovered raid setting. It boots but it is so unstable blue screening with completely different issues almost every time.
Did this motherboard just lose it's marbles. I was told by asus to send it in and they gave me rma number.
What do you guys think happen and do you think all the issues are MB related and not windows. when I get into windows sometimes it runs and sometimes it blue screens with page fault or memory manager issues etc..
Let me know what you think. I guess I will RMA but was trying to fix before I go through that. I need to buy another MAXIMUS XI Apex but don't see them for sale lately. Bad part is I have the Double Capacity ram and are kind of locked into that board or gene which would be a downgrade.
Thanks,InWin 909 Silver RGB build
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01-23-2020 09:59 AM #2
ninezerofive PC Specs Laptop (Model) Laptop ? Ewww Motherboard Maximus XI Apex Processor i7-9700K @ 5.2 Memory (part number) Trident Z Royal 4000 / 2x8GB @ C17 Graphics Card #1 ROG Strix 1070 OC Storage #1 Corsair MP510 960 GB Storage #2 Seagate 3TB CPU Cooler ROG Ryuo 240 Case ROG Helios Power Supply ROG THOR 850W Keyboard ROG Claymore Mouse ROG Pugio Headset ROG Cerberus Mouse Pad ROG Whetstone Accessory #1 ROG Terminal
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Sorry to hear that brother. Have you taken ram out of the equation ? Have some simpler ram sticks laying around that you can test?
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01-23-2020 12:46 PM #3
Arne Saknussemm PC Specs Laptop (Model) Laptop?...No way! (Model?...Jun Amaki...yes way!) Motherboard ROG ZENITH II EXTREME Processor THREADRIPPER 3960X Memory (part number) TXBD48G4000HC18FBK Graphics Card #1 GTX Titan X Graphics Card #2 SLI is dead to me Graphics Card #3 Tri SLI is even dead to Nvidia Graphics Card #4 Quad SLI is dead to everybody especially my credit card Sound Card Xonar Essence STX Monitor ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q Storage #1 Samsung 970/960/950 PRO Storage #2 2x OCZ VERTEX 3/2x WD Caviar Black 500GB / 2x WD RED 2TB/Samsung 1TBSSDs CPU Cooler Custom Loop: Dual D5s, Dual Alphacool Monsta 480s, XSPC Raystorm Neo TR4, EK TitanX WaterBlock Case Nope!...Dimastech Easy XL...let it all hang out man! Power Supply Seasonic 1000 Platinum Keyboard Corsair Strafe MK2 ROG Claymore... or Fender Rhodes Electric Piano (MKI 73) Mouse Corsair M65Pro or Speedy Gonzalez...not Mickey...don't do Disney! Headset ...firmly on neck Mouse Pad Mouse don't got his own pad man...lives with me Headset/Speakers Edifier Spinnaker...or you mean the speakers in my head...man too many voices to name them all OS Win XP, 7, 8, 8.1 and Windows 10 Spyware Edition Network Router 56k modem Accessory #1 Umm...nice tie? Accessory #2 Err...belt? Accessory #3 3 accessories?! I'm not a girl!!
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If I were you, I'd remove the RAM and try single sticks in recommended slot and test a known good stick in various slots...see if a DIMM has gone rogue or if a slot has...
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01-23-2020 07:42 PM #4
mdzcpa PC Specs Motherboard Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Processor 5900X 4.6ghz All core 1.3V, 5ghz single DOC Memory (part number) Gskill NEO 3600 CAS 14 32GB (4x8) Graphics Card #1 ROG Strix RTX 3080 Sound Card On Board Monitor ROG PG348Q Storage #1 Samsung 980 Pro M.2 512GB for OS & APPS Storage #2 Samsung 980 Pro M.2 1TB for GAMES CPU Cooler ROG Ryujin 360 Case Phanteks 500A Mesh Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1000W Titanium Keyboard Corsair K70 LUX RGB Mouse Corsair M65 RGB Headset Corsaur Virtuoso Mouse Pad Corsair MM300 Wide Desk Mat OS WIN 10 Pro Network Router Linksys VELOP Accessory #1 ROG 751JY Laptop for Moobile Gaming Accessory #2 Koolance EXC-800 Chiller Accessory #3 25+ years of overclocking
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it's hardware for sure. Nothing in windows would result in these symptoms.
I agree with those above. Strip the system. Pull any PCIE cards, connect only your OS drive, try one stick of ram and see if you can boot with stability consistently. Add back items after that and see what happens. If you cannot get into UEFI with one stick and basic components, then its the MOBO, CPU or PSU.
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01-23-2020 11:48 PM #5
1mluer PC Specs Motherboard Maximus XII Apex Processor I9-10900k Memory (part number) Gskill Trident Royal 4400 Graphics Card #1 ROG Matrix 2080 ti Sound Card built in Monitor ASUS Swift PG348Q Storage #1 Samsung 970 EVO Plus Raid Storage #2 Samsung 970 EVO Plus Raid CPU Cooler Ryujin 360 Case InWin 909 Silver Power Supply ROG Thor 1200p Keyboard ASUS ROG Claymore Mouse Logitech G900 Mouse Pad ASUS ROG Baltheus Headset/Speakers Bose Computer Set with Sub OS Windows 10 Pro Network Router NightHawk RAX200 Accessory #1 TT Riing Plus Accessory #2 Blue Microphone
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I am thinking it could be nvram issue / bios storage issue. It all of a sudden that morning it forgot all of it's settings and under volted everything ie: CPU showed .85 volts. When I can get the machine to go back into bios, I manually set the voltages where they should be and boom it runs all day not one issue or crash. I turn the machine off for the night and the next day it repeats all the same symptoms and crashes until I get it to go back into bios so I can reset. Then its off working great again like nothing happened.
I think it's a motherboard issue. The Ram works perfect and my cinebench runs are still very high with no crashes under load. I am not getting any ram errors. But when it locks up hard, it's usually a lot of 61's nvram installation errors. I can coherse it by restarting, complete power offs, and or using some of the OC features on the MB to change behavior to get it to move past that error and post. I pulled the battery and tested it.. solid 3 volts and at the same time should of reset bios / nvram. Does this make sense ?Last edited by 1mluer; 01-23-2020 at 11:53 PM.
InWin 909 Silver RGB build
i9-10900k
ROG Maximus XII Apex
ROG Matrix 2080 ti
Gskill Trident Royal 4400 16g
Everything overclocked and love it.
ROG Awesomeness !!!!
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01-26-2020 08:31 AM #6
1mluer PC Specs Motherboard Maximus XII Apex Processor I9-10900k Memory (part number) Gskill Trident Royal 4400 Graphics Card #1 ROG Matrix 2080 ti Sound Card built in Monitor ASUS Swift PG348Q Storage #1 Samsung 970 EVO Plus Raid Storage #2 Samsung 970 EVO Plus Raid CPU Cooler Ryujin 360 Case InWin 909 Silver Power Supply ROG Thor 1200p Keyboard ASUS ROG Claymore Mouse Logitech G900 Mouse Pad ASUS ROG Baltheus Headset/Speakers Bose Computer Set with Sub OS Windows 10 Pro Network Router NightHawk RAX200 Accessory #1 TT Riing Plus Accessory #2 Blue Microphone
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Finally got my RMA created and the board sent off. It got to the point where it just locked up on Q code 61 and wouldn't budge. I swapped out the memory with no change to behavior. The MB is done at this point. Hopefully I can get it fixed.
I was thinking moving to X299 if this can't get handled. Not really encouraged by what I am reading about I9-10980XE and X299 HEDT platform in general. Not sure what to think yet.InWin 909 Silver RGB build
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01-26-2020 10:48 AM #7
ninezerofive PC Specs Laptop (Model) Laptop ? Ewww Motherboard Maximus XI Apex Processor i7-9700K @ 5.2 Memory (part number) Trident Z Royal 4000 / 2x8GB @ C17 Graphics Card #1 ROG Strix 1070 OC Storage #1 Corsair MP510 960 GB Storage #2 Seagate 3TB CPU Cooler ROG Ryuo 240 Case ROG Helios Power Supply ROG THOR 850W Keyboard ROG Claymore Mouse ROG Pugio Headset ROG Cerberus Mouse Pad ROG Whetstone Accessory #1 ROG Terminal
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01-26-2020 01:12 PM #8
ThrashZone PC Specs Motherboard ASUS z490 maximus XII Apex 2nd x299 Rampage VI Apex Processor i9-10900k & i9-9940x Memory (part number) Trident-Z 3600c16 2nd Trident-Z 3600C16 both Samsung B-Dies Graphics Card #1 EVGA 1080ti FTW3 water block 2nd Titan Xp copper water block Monitor AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz & ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz Storage #1 2-Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500gb M.2 & 2.5" ssd's 850 pro's for os 850 evo for games Storage #2 2-LG Blu-Ray WH16NS40 CPU Cooler 2-240GTX with Heatkiller-4-Pro/ vrm water block Both&x299 2-280GTX 2-D5's before and after rads Case 2- Corsair 450D with second floors for 240GTX & 280GTX rads enclosed and filtered on top Power Supply EVGA 1000P2 2nd EVGA 1200P2 Keyboard Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum 2nd Logitech G710+ Mouse 2-Red dragon Perdition OS Win-7 & win-10 pro on both systems Win-7 everyday os Accessory #1 Optimus Foundation copper plexi 2nd Optimus SigV2 Accessory #2 ModmyMods clear coolant Accessory #3 ModMyMods 3/8-5/8" clear soft tubing/ MORA 360 Pro x2
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Hi,
3950x would be a better choice games well probably way better than any x299 series which has a stinking low cache which makes it terrible for gaming.
If your memory is 3200C14 it will work great on amd
If not C14 you'd have to search qvl list on boards.
x299 and 10 series well it's just a fire sell for nothing new to release
Intel really crapping their shorts because they couldn't undermine amd release once again but intel still looks like swiss cheese security holeware
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01-27-2020 07:00 AM #9
1mluer PC Specs Motherboard Maximus XII Apex Processor I9-10900k Memory (part number) Gskill Trident Royal 4400 Graphics Card #1 ROG Matrix 2080 ti Sound Card built in Monitor ASUS Swift PG348Q Storage #1 Samsung 970 EVO Plus Raid Storage #2 Samsung 970 EVO Plus Raid CPU Cooler Ryujin 360 Case InWin 909 Silver Power Supply ROG Thor 1200p Keyboard ASUS ROG Claymore Mouse Logitech G900 Mouse Pad ASUS ROG Baltheus Headset/Speakers Bose Computer Set with Sub OS Windows 10 Pro Network Router NightHawk RAX200 Accessory #1 TT Riing Plus Accessory #2 Blue Microphone
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01-27-2020 07:07 AM #10
1mluer PC Specs Motherboard Maximus XII Apex Processor I9-10900k Memory (part number) Gskill Trident Royal 4400 Graphics Card #1 ROG Matrix 2080 ti Sound Card built in Monitor ASUS Swift PG348Q Storage #1 Samsung 970 EVO Plus Raid Storage #2 Samsung 970 EVO Plus Raid CPU Cooler Ryujin 360 Case InWin 909 Silver Power Supply ROG Thor 1200p Keyboard ASUS ROG Claymore Mouse Logitech G900 Mouse Pad ASUS ROG Baltheus Headset/Speakers Bose Computer Set with Sub OS Windows 10 Pro Network Router NightHawk RAX200 Accessory #1 TT Riing Plus Accessory #2 Blue Microphone
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I will have to buy new memory. I have the NEW Double Capacity memory designed for GENE and APEX this go around. It's awesome ram but doesn't work with any non DC configured RAM slots. I am not sure I can go AMD. I built and AMD system about 15 years ago and it sucked pretty bad after all the hype on it. I guess they are better now with Threadripper but I still have AMD stamped on my tough and can't get rid of the taste yet.
Plus, as some point it really doesn't matter how many cores you have if you don't have anything to use them for. Photoshop still runs the best on I9-9900K by far than any other platform. video editing is only a hobby here and is only a 2 times a year event if that ..InWin 909 Silver RGB build
i9-10900k
ROG Maximus XII Apex
ROG Matrix 2080 ti
Gskill Trident Royal 4400 16g
Everything overclocked and love it.
ROG Awesomeness !!!!