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    Theta 7.1 - setup question, poor rear distinction

    Hi,

    I understand the true surround with theta 7.1 is a bit of a gimmick given the individual drivers are all so close to the ear but anyways.
    I struggle with Theta 7.1 giving pretty poor positioning from the rear.
    In Overwatch that is the only game I play at the moment with solid audio support it is not a distinct difference from side'ish to rear.
    I will desrcibe it based on a dial of a clock from in lack of imagination, from 18:30 - 20:30 (6:30pm - 8:30pm) and same obviously on the right side. Problem is it's not distinct at all and often hard to tell which ways its leaning towards.

    What I first want to make sure is that I havent ****ed up any setings so will sum them up.

    Windows 10
    Realtek install 7.1 all fine no issues
    Win detect it as a speaker (not a headset) as it shouild
    Theta is set to a 7.1 surround system
    Spatial sound disabled

    Theta settings in Armory (the proper one)
    Set as 7.1 surround
    Virtual Surround enabled
    Equalizer flat or disabled
    Bass boost disabled

    Overwatch settings
    Atmos disabled

    All the above is what I've read the correct settings to get the best positioning yet it is to be honest, crap, in terms of side <-> rear destinction.
    Am I missing some setting, made some wrong setting, got a faulty pair from Asus or anything else?
    (I have tried with all other kinds of stuff just to try, enabling/disabling some of the above mentioned settings)
    Also worth mentioning, fiddling with channel mixer does not improve anything.

    Thankful for input, stay safe from Corona.

    Best regards
    Jens
    Last edited by JensbJensB; 04-07-2020 at 04:21 PM.

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    i hope someone can answer this as well as its not just your headset.

    Quote Originally Posted by JensbJensB View Post
    Hi,

    I understand the true surround with theta 7.1 is a bit of a gimmick given the individual drivers are all so close to the ear but anyways.
    I struggle with Theta 7.1 giving pretty poor positioning from the rear.
    In Overwatch that is the only game I play at the moment with solid audio support it is not a distinct difference from side'ish to rear.
    I will desrcibe it based on a dial of a clock from in lack of imagination, from 18:30 - 20:30 (6:30pm - 8:30pm) and same obviously on the right side. Problem is it's not distinct at all and often hard to tell which ways its leaning towards.

    What I first want to make sure is that I havent ****ed up any setings so will sum them up.

    Windows 10
    Realtek install 7.1 all fine no issues
    Win detect it as a speaker (not a headset) as it shouild
    Theta is set to a 7.1 surround system
    Spatial sound disabled

    Theta settings in Armory (the proper one)
    Set as 7.1 surround
    Virtual Surround enabled
    Equalizer flat or disabled
    Bass boost disabled

    Overwatch settings
    Atmos disabled

    All the above is what I've read the correct settings to get the best positioning yet it is to be honest, crap, in terms of side <-> rear destinction.
    Am I missing some setting, made some wrong setting, got a faulty pair from Asus or anything else?
    (I have tried with all other kinds of stuff just to try, enabling/disabling some of the above mentioned settings)
    Also worth mentioning, fiddling with channel mixer does not improve anything.

    Thankful for input, stay safe from Corona.

    Best regards
    Jens
    Any information into this problem would be helpful! i have better sound in some cheap turtle beaches with windows virtual 7.1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JensbJensB View Post
    Hi,

    I understand the true surround with theta 7.1 is a bit of a gimmick given the individual drivers are all so close to the ear but anyways.
    I struggle with Theta 7.1 giving pretty poor positioning from the rear.
    In Overwatch that is the only game I play at the moment with solid audio support it is not a distinct difference from side'ish to rear.
    I will desrcibe it based on a dial of a clock from in lack of imagination, from 18:30 - 20:30 (6:30pm - 8:30pm) and same obviously on the right side. Problem is it's not distinct at all and often hard to tell which ways its leaning towards.

    What I first want to make sure is that I havent ****ed up any setings so will sum them up.

    Windows 10
    Realtek install 7.1 all fine no issues
    Win detect it as a speaker (not a headset) as it shouild
    Theta is set to a 7.1 surround system
    Spatial sound disabled

    Theta settings in Armory (the proper one)
    Set as 7.1 surround
    Virtual Surround enabled
    Equalizer flat or disabled
    Bass boost disabled

    Overwatch settings
    Atmos disabled

    All the above is what I've read the correct settings to get the best positioning yet it is to be honest, crap, in terms of side <-> rear destinction.
    Am I missing some setting, made some wrong setting, got a faulty pair from Asus or anything else?
    (I have tried with all other kinds of stuff just to try, enabling/disabling some of the above mentioned settings)
    Also worth mentioning, fiddling with channel mixer does not improve anything.

    Thankful for input, stay safe from Corona.

    Best regards
    Jens
    Disabilita il Sorround virtuale poiché se hai impostato il 7.1 reale, con Sorround virtuale abilitato fa confusione. Prova a disattivarlo e vede se il posizionamento è migliore!!!
    Last edited by iadda320; 05-07-2020 at 07:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JensbJensB View Post
    Hi,

    I understand the true surround with theta 7.1 is a bit of a gimmick given the individual drivers are all so close to the ear but anyways.
    I struggle with Theta 7.1 giving pretty poor positioning from the rear.
    In Overwatch that is the only game I play at the moment with solid audio support it is not a distinct difference from side'ish to rear.
    I will desrcibe it based on a dial of a clock from in lack of imagination, from 18:30 - 20:30 (6:30pm - 8:30pm) and same obviously on the right side. Problem is it's not distinct at all and often hard to tell which ways its leaning towards.

    What I first want to make sure is that I havent ****ed up any setings so will sum them up.

    Windows 10
    Realtek install 7.1 all fine no issues
    Win detect it as a speaker (not a headset) as it shouild
    Theta is set to a 7.1 surround system
    Spatial sound disabled

    Theta settings in Armory (the proper one)
    Set as 7.1 surround
    Virtual Surround enabled
    Equalizer flat or disabled
    Bass boost disabled

    Overwatch settings
    Atmos disabled

    All the above is what I've read the correct settings to get the best positioning yet it is to be honest, crap, in terms of side <-> rear destinction.
    Am I missing some setting, made some wrong setting, got a faulty pair from Asus or anything else?
    (I have tried with all other kinds of stuff just to try, enabling/disabling some of the above mentioned settings)
    Also worth mentioning, fiddling with channel mixer does not improve anything.

    Thankful for input, stay safe from Corona.

    Best regards
    Jens
    Yes, you f'd up. VIRTUAL SURROUND should not be enabled as you're not using VIRTUAL but TRUE surround. Virtual is to SIMULATE surround speakers. You have the physical speakers in the headset. DISABLE VIRTUAL SURROUND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EldersPride View Post
    Any information into this problem would be helpful! i have better sound in some cheap turtle beaches with windows virtual 7.1!
    Come on, why would you use VIRTUAL SURROUND, when you have REAL surround? Does anyone not use their noggin and think logically? You set the device up in Windows as a 7.1. You disable any virtualization or spatialization or it screws things up.

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    Best to disable any virtual/spatial surround effects if you already have true surround in the Theta.

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