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    Sir you are the MAN!!!!!

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    Hi.
    I have an ROG Strix X570-E gaming mobo. I just can't get the drivers to work. If I remove everything and just let Windows install basic drivers, the audio works. But as soon as I try installing proper drivers no sound comes out of my speakers at all. I can see the audio meters go up and dow with the sounds but nothing from the speakers. I've done everything exactly as it is in your steps (ROG SS3, not sure if it's the correct one) twice and one attempt for ROG/PRIME/TUF and nothing works. I am at a loss. Can you help? Thanks.

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    MR. M,

    I have a question.

    What are the differences of the realtek drivers, UAD and HDA?

    Thank you in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vollezar View Post
    Hi.
    I have an ROG Strix X570-E gaming mobo. I just can't get the drivers to work. If I remove everything and just let Windows install basic drivers, the audio works. But as soon as I try installing proper drivers no sound comes out of my speakers at all. I can see the audio meters go up and dow with the sounds but nothing from the speakers. I've done everything exactly as it is in your steps (ROG SS3, not sure if it's the correct one) twice and one attempt for ROG/PRIME/TUF and nothing works. I am at a loss. Can you help? Thanks.
    Hi,

    In order to choose correctly the install/update process to use : You have a ASUS ROG SS3|DTS Sound Unbound motherboard.

    Follow scrupulously your INSTALL process with cleanup step, for the next drivers packages that I would release, you will can directly follow the UPDATE process.


    Quote Originally Posted by pinkfloyd1173 View Post
    MR. M,

    I have a question.

    What are the differences of the realtek drivers, UAD and HDA?

    Thank you in advance.
    Hi,

    HDA Drivers are for Windows 7 & Windows 10 1709/RS3/16299.x or more recent
    UAD Drivers are only for Windows 10 64 bit 1709/RS3/16299.x or more recent (1903/19H1/18362.x or more recent for some Third Party drivers)

    HDA Drivers use Win32/Legacy apps (including Realtek HD Audio Manager)
    UAD Drivers use UWP apps downloaded from Microsoft Store (including Realtek Audio Control/Console)

    HDA Drivers have a tray icon (possibility to disable it)
    UAD Drivers don't have a tray icon (without possibility to enable it)


    Glossary :

    HDA = High Definition Audio
    HDA (Realtek) = Standard (NVIDIA) = Legacy (Microsoft, Intel)

    UAD = Universal Audio Driver
    UAD (Realtek) = DCH (NVIDIA & Intel, Microsoft now) = DCHU (Microsoft before) = UWD (Microsoft & Intel before)

    DCH/DCHU = Declarative Componentized Hardware Support Apps Universal API compliance

    UWD = Universal Windows Driver.
    Last edited by MoKiChU; 06-28-2020 at 12:26 PM.

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    @MoKiChU Thank You. A lot. Spent almost 11 hours trying to figure out what was wrong. Thank You.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoKiChU View Post
    Hi,

    In order to choose correctly the install/update process to use : You have a ASUS ROG SS3|DTS Sound Unbound motherboard.

    Follow scrupulously the INSTALL process (with cleanup step).




    Hi,

    HDA Drivers are for Windows 7 & Windows 10 1709/RS3/16299.x or more recent
    UAD Drivers are only for Windows 10 64 bit 1709/RS3/16299.x or more recent (1903/19H1/18362.x or more recent for some Third Party drivers)

    HDA Drivers use Win32/Legacy apps (including Realtek HD Audio Manager)
    UAD Drivers use UWP apps downloaded from Microsoft Store (including Realtek Audio Control/Console)

    HDA Drivers have a tray icon (possibility to disable it)
    UAD Drivers don't have a tray icon (without possibility to enable it)


    Glossary :

    HDA = High Definition Audio
    HDA (Realtek) = Standard (NVIDIA) = Legacy (Microsoft & Intel)

    UAD = Universal Audio Driver
    UAD (Realtek) = DCH (NVIDIA & Intel now) = DCHU (Microsoft) = UWD (Microsoft & Intel before)

    DCH/DCHU = Declarative Componentized Hardware Support Apps Universal API compliance

    UWD = Universal Windows Driver.

    Thank you for this information good sir. I would leave this explaination on your post for realtek drivers. Just my opinion, for noobs like me.

    Again thank you.

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    Wow, this seems like nightmare compared to usual driver updates. I'm in awe of you MoKiChU for figuring all this out!

    I'll take a snapshot of my install before attempting, just to be safe. Seems like this resets and then is base for new Realtek going forward so only gotta go through the initial driver wiping/cleaning once, right? Then free to update as new releases are discovered and posted here by MoKiChU?

    But before I do... so what exactly is new or improved compared to the 6.0.1.8666 driver and Sonic software from Asus? Some place I could see screenshots? I'm a dork so I just want the latest and greatest driver for anything, regardless of whether I actually need it or not. But this ain't no simple setup.exe or device mgr driver update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteverinoLA View Post
    Wow, this seems like nightmare compared to usual driver updates. I'm in awe of you MoKiChU for figuring all this out!

    I'll take a snapshot of my install before attempting, just to be safe.
    Hi,

    The reasons for this change are explained on this post : https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...ge3#post803189.

    Quote Originally Posted by SteverinoLA View Post
    Seems like this resets and then is base for new Realtek going forward so only gotta go through the initial driver wiping/cleaning once, right?
    Right.

    Quote Originally Posted by SteverinoLA View Post
    Then free to update as new releases are discovered and posted here by MoKiChU?
    Right.

    Quote Originally Posted by SteverinoLA View Post
    But before I do... so what exactly is new or improved compared to the 6.0.1.8666 driver and Sonic software from Asus? Some place I could see screenshots?
    Realtek never provides changelog (A-Volute does not do better), however I can tell you in general that the changes are adds of new hardware IDs, bug/security fixes, improvement of the sound spectrum, support for new games/apps/OS etc ...

    Quote Originally Posted by SteverinoLA View Post
    I'm a dork so I just want the latest and greatest driver for anything, regardless of whether I actually need it or not. But this ain't no simple setup.exe or device mgr driver update.
    It's no more complicated than using installer (Setup.exe) or Device Manager (which does not allow the installation of Extension Drivers), it's even simpler, faster and more efficient.

    Realtek packages its UAD/DCH drivers according to the wishes of the OEMs, so there are some with installer (Setup.exe) and others without (via .cmd/.bat), it all depends on the deployment philosophy of the OEM (ASUS is deploying more and more drivers only packages that use an install via .cmd/.bat for probably the same reasons as me : https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1039030).

    Those who have been following me for a long time know that I have always tried to offer the most refined drivers and the most integrated in the system (Drivers Only) when the number of .inf to install manually is not excessive (Example here).

    The change I have made here for Realtek Audio Drivers is a continuation of this Drivers Only logic (the .cmds contain an automation of the equivalent of a right click then Install on each necessary .inf, in the necessary order, according to the case).
    Last edited by MoKiChU; 05-06-2020 at 02:56 PM.

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    I did a system restore point and a full image to be safe, but no need. Process went 100% smooth by simply following your step by step. Now I'm freed from the Asus SS3 leash, thanks!

    Two questions:

    1) What the heck is the Sonic Studio Virtual Mixer? I added just b/c it was there thinking it was another UWP app but now see it's actually additional device in Speakers and Recording devices. What does it do and when would someone use it?

    2) Is this the master thread to subscribe to in order to get informed of future SS3 updates?

    Thanks again for all the hard work simplified to easy to follow steps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteverinoLA View Post
    1) What the heck is the Sonic Studio Virtual Mixer? I added just b/c it was there thinking it was another UWP app but now see it's actually additional device in Speakers and Recording devices. What does it do and when would someone use it?
    If your are not a streamer or youtuber, you have no interest in using it.

    Here is official overview :
    SONIC STUDIO VIRTUAL MIXER
    A virtual audio device that lets streamers combine sound output and output from different apps. This allows you to mix your voice and video game audio within streaming software. A variety of adjustment and monitoring tools provide a high level of digital control.
    Quote Originally Posted by SteverinoLA View Post
    2) Is this the master thread to subscribe to in order to get informed of future SS3 updates?
    Right.
    Last edited by MoKiChU; 05-17-2020 at 08:58 PM.

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