[FIRMWARE] Intel ME (H470/Z490)

[geneo]

Well I believe a clear-cmos, restore values and memory retrain, and adding 10 mv vcore bump seems to have gotten me back to where I was before on my 51x all-core. Guess I should have left well enough alone.

[Ezveedub]

Be aware, my processor OC was unstable after this and you can't go back. I am investigating further to see what it takes to tweak it back stable. So far I have tried resetting CMOS and reapplying settings.

Well I believe a clear-cmos, restore values and memory retrain, and adding 10 mv vcore bump seems to have gotten me back to where I was before on my 51x all-core. Guess I should have left well enough alone.

Reason I've not touched or updated any bios or firmwares since March or so of this year. Did the increase in Vcore change any core temps? Every time I see these updates, I can assume my OC settings are gonna need more voltage, lol

[scgt1]

Hi everyone,

- Intel ME Consumer Firmware :

Firmware : 14.1.60.1790 [18/08/2021]
Firmware PMC : 140.2.01.1018 [22/02/2021]
Firmware PCHC : 14.0.0.7002 [12/06/2020]
Firmware PHY : 12.14.214.2014 [01/04/2021]
Download : Link

OS requirements : Windows 10 64 bit or more recent.
Hardware requirements : Motherboards with Intel Z490 chipset.

Ok this is a new one on me.
Just ran the check and then update to an Asus Z490-I and it's in a boot shutdown boot shutddown loop. The fans are barely spinning up and the rgb is briefly coming on before it shuts off again. Never had this happen before and Unsure if I should just force power it down at this point. It's probably cycled 10 times now which is no where near normal.

Thank god for usb flashback. Back in with 2201. I found a post about this same board and 2301 causing issues but 2301 (win 11 update bios) went through just fine for me at least on initial reboot. This is then when I ran the ME update from the OP and bricked it into a boot loop. So really not sure if it's an issue with 2301 or the ME version or a combo of this ME with 2301 that doesn't play nice.

Well looks like it's still on the 14.1.60.1790 ME FW so maybe the ME FW needs an update to jive with 2301. Guess I'll run 2301 now that the ME is updated and see what happens. YOLO right?

BOOT LOOP.

Bios 2301 DOESN'T PLAY NICE WITH INTEL ME 14.1.60.1790

[kvarq]

if something is working right, don't try to fix it
the enemy of "good" is "better"

in general, most of the times the FW updates involve security updates
unfortunately, a FW update also cripples performance

99% of the times the FW updates are security oriented, and in general the performance is crippled
I learned the hard way during time this - I still remember with Apex Z390 board, out of boredom I did a FW update, and then I noticed loss of performance in all synthetic tests and most important, in games!
and once the FW is updated, going back is virtually impossible
so I'm leaving the FW default from now on... unless they will issue one for performance, which is unlikely... if FW is constantly updated, 1-2% at least lost every time... forced somehow to "upgrade" to the next generation and so on...

Hello,

Obviously this will depend on the changes between UEFI builds. The consensus, unfortunately, over the last couple of years is that performance is worse due to the barrage of ucode security updates that had a negative impact on certain workload performance. These have plateaued at this stage, so most changes to the firmware will likely bring stability improvements.

[Yuniel]

Hi everyone,

- Intel ME Consumer Firmware :

Firmware : 14.1.60.1807 [05/09/2021]
Firmware PMC : 140.2.01.1018 [22/02/2021]
Firmware PCHC : 14.0.0.7002 [12/06/2020]
Firmware PHY : 12.14.214.2014 [01/04/2021]
Download : Link

Thread updated.

is safe to update the firmware you posted for asus maximus xii formula ? , what you recommened to do first update the bios or firmware ? i using 2301 bios and firmware Version 14.1.53.1649V1.1 2021/06/10
why asus dont update in the site of driver bios firmware your version of firmware and still asppear old version https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards.../helpdesk_bios

[scgt1]

is safe to update the firmware you posted for asus maximus xii formula ? , what you recommened to do first update the bios or firmware ? i using 2301 bios and firmware Version 14.1.53.1649V1.1 2021/06/10
why asus dont update in the site of driver bios firmware your version of firmware and still asppear old version https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards.../helpdesk_bios

I'm going to throw out a huge caution with updating the ME F/W past what is on the Asus Support site for your board if on 2301.
You will more then likely soft brick your board into a postless repeating boot loop. Has happened with 2 Z490-I boards and a Z490-G that I have had. Spent over a month trying to get it through their thick skulls the Bios needs an update to support the 3 ( at that time) newer versions of the ME F/W. Needless to say they still only have 2301 and no new ME F/W on the support sites.

If you update the ME you can't roll it back and will have to use usb bios flashback to the pre 2301 to get your computer to work again.

[geneo]

^ 2403. But no new ME firmware.

[Yuniel]

I'm going to throw out a huge caution with updating the ME F/W past what is on the Asus Support site for your board if on 2301.
You will more then likely soft brick your board into a postless repeating boot loop. Has happened with 2 Z490-I boards and a Z490-G that I have had. Spent over a month trying to get it through their thick skulls the Bios needs an update to support the 3 ( at that time) newer versions of the ME F/W. Needless to say they still only have 2301 and no new ME F/W on the support sites.

If you update the ME you can't roll it back and will have to use usb bios flashback to the pre 2301 to get your computer to work again.

3 days ago release new bios for xii formula z490 bios version 2403 , so you recommened me to stay in the firmware ME Version 14.1.53.1649V1.1 and bios version 2301 ?
or just only update the bios to 2403 ?

[Ataemonus]

I'm going to throw out a huge caution with updating the ME F/W past what is on the Asus Support site for your board if on 2301.
You will more then likely soft brick your board into a postless repeating boot loop. Has happened with 2 Z490-I boards and a Z490-G that I have had. Spent over a month trying to get it through their thick skulls the Bios needs an update to support the 3 ( at that time) newer versions of the ME F/W. Needless to say they still only have 2301 and no new ME F/W on the support sites.

If you update the ME you can't roll it back and will have to use usb bios flashback to the pre 2301 to get your computer to work again.

That's nonsense. You are clearly doing something wrong, and yeah, in all honesty, at some level of knowledge one should stick to whatever is on the support site and not dig through forums for unofficial drivers and firmwares, or even better, have a specialist do everything.

[Ataemonus]

Thank you.