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01-01-2021 03:09 AM #461
Braegnok PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XII Extreme Processor Intel Core i9-10900K Memory (part number) F4-3600C14D-32GTRS Graphics Card #1 Nvidia RTX 3090 FE Monitor Asus ROG Swift PG35VQ Storage #1 Samsung 970 Pro CPU Cooler Custom Water Case TT A700 TG Power Supply Seasonic SSR-1000TR Keyboard Das Keyboard 4 Ultimate Mouse G502 Lightspeed Headset SteelSeries Arctis Pro OS Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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01-01-2021 05:48 AM #462
morph. PC Specs Laptop (Model) MacBook Pro 13" i5, Surface Pro X Motherboard ROG Maximus XII Formula Processor Intel® Core™ i9-10850K @5.2Ghz Memory (part number) G.SKILL F4-3600C14D-32GTRS (2x16) @4400MHz 17-18-18-37 Graphics Card #1 ROG Strix RTX3090oc Monitor ROG Swift PG279Q Storage #1 Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB NVMe CPU Cooler EK Quantum Velocity Nickel Plexi 2x PE360 Radiators Case Lian Li PC-O11DXL-W Power Supply Corsair AX1000 Keyboard SteelSeries Apex Pro Mouse Final Mouse Air58 - Cherry Headset SteelSeries Arctis Pro Wireless Mouse Pad ROG Sheath BLK LTD OS Windows 10 Pro Network Router Billion BiPAC 8800AXL Accessory #1 EK Quantum Vector Strix Waterblock Accessory #2 EK Classic Side DP DDC3.2 Accessory #3 EK Quantum Momentum VRM Bridge
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Tune secondaries down it will increase testing speed and performance same with tertiary groups
DD can also be 0 afaik as you are just running 2 sticks.*
You should probably ramp up your uncore speed to 4.7-4.8.*
I wonder if 4300/4400 is achievable at 16 flat with bit more dram voltage 1.49 etc...*
How are you testing stability btw?*
Personally I’d go EKWB gear for water.*Last edited by morph.; 01-01-2021 at 06:05 AM.
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01-01-2021 11:59 AM #463
martine-dee PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XII Extreme Processor Intel Core i9-10900K @ 5.2GHz, NB 4.7 GHz Memory (part number) G.Skill F4-4000C15Q-32GTZR @ 3733 MHz CL14 Graphics Card #1 Asus ROG Strix GTX 1080 Ti Gaming @ 2.025 GHz Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster AE-9 Monitor Asus ROG Swift 360Hz PG259QN Storage #1 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB Storage #2 1x WD Blue SSD 1TB, 1x WD Red HDD 1TB CPU Cooler Corsair Hydro Series H115i RGB Platinum Case TT View 91 Tempered Glass RGB Edition Power Supply Corsair AX1600i Keyboard SteelSeries Apex 7, Red Mouse Logitech G403 Prodigy Gaming Mouse @ 3200 dpi Headset Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro Mouse Pad Logitech G440 Headset/Speakers Creative Inspire T6300 @ AE-9 OS Win 10 Pro 64bit 2004, Ubuntu 16.04 Accessory #1 Logitech Streamcam Webcam Accessory #2 Rode NT1-A Mic Accessory #3 Just about 12 fans from TT and Noctua
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Following a lamp that sort of pinches the aesthetics, I just found out that M12E has a BIOS switch. I think I will save that old BIOS purely for curiosity, even though switching now requires each BIOS to restore their OLED firmware. It won't be used much, that's for sure.
For the record, that untouched BIOS is 0403 from March 23, 2020.A Quaker here
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01-01-2021 05:37 PM #464
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What voltage is the RAM? Can you go lower on the D1s? there is a formula u can calculate this section.
For 4300mhz you can increase the throughput & latency further. You can set VCCs upto 1.35 but thats the absolute limit if u dont have active cooling (1.3 is fine for good board). On that voltage it will go close to 1.4v in reality. Lower tcke to 6, twrrd_sg/dg by 3-4, twrrd_dr/dd & twrwr_dr/dd to 7 or 8 depending which have better performance. tRFC can be 344, even less if u have stability, like 280. Check if increasing twr to 16 will give u more read/write speed.Last edited by n1kobg; 01-01-2021 at 05:48 PM.
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01-02-2021 01:39 AM #465
Braegnok PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XII Extreme Processor Intel Core i9-10900K Memory (part number) F4-3600C14D-32GTRS Graphics Card #1 Nvidia RTX 3090 FE Monitor Asus ROG Swift PG35VQ Storage #1 Samsung 970 Pro CPU Cooler Custom Water Case TT A700 TG Power Supply Seasonic SSR-1000TR Keyboard Das Keyboard 4 Ultimate Mouse G502 Lightspeed Headset SteelSeries Arctis Pro OS Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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The only timings I have adjusted/set in above post are the Primary's, tREFI, and I'm working on tRFC, will be between 378 - 294 when I'm finished testing.
All other timings Secondary, and Tertiary are still in Auto at this point, working my way down my list, testing as I go.
For testing first is MEMTEST 86 bootable flash drive, than after booting into Windows I use Karhu RAM Test, Prime95 large FFTs.
I have already committed to using Optimus blocks on this system, I have Optimus Signature V2 CPU block, Absolute D5 Reservoir 306mm system in hand and have Pre-Ordered Optimus Absolute GPU block on September 14, 2020. Production has been scheduled on the 3090 FE block for third week of January 2021.
I have EKWB gear on my Z390 system, CoolStream XE radiators,.. vary nice hardware. EKWB has not yet released a block for the 3090 FE, coming soon perhaps.Last edited by Braegnok; 01-02-2021 at 02:47 AM.
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01-02-2021 01:43 AM #466
morph. PC Specs Laptop (Model) MacBook Pro 13" i5, Surface Pro X Motherboard ROG Maximus XII Formula Processor Intel® Core™ i9-10850K @5.2Ghz Memory (part number) G.SKILL F4-3600C14D-32GTRS (2x16) @4400MHz 17-18-18-37 Graphics Card #1 ROG Strix RTX3090oc Monitor ROG Swift PG279Q Storage #1 Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB NVMe CPU Cooler EK Quantum Velocity Nickel Plexi 2x PE360 Radiators Case Lian Li PC-O11DXL-W Power Supply Corsair AX1000 Keyboard SteelSeries Apex Pro Mouse Final Mouse Air58 - Cherry Headset SteelSeries Arctis Pro Wireless Mouse Pad ROG Sheath BLK LTD OS Windows 10 Pro Network Router Billion BiPAC 8800AXL Accessory #1 EK Quantum Vector Strix Waterblock Accessory #2 EK Classic Side DP DDC3.2 Accessory #3 EK Quantum Momentum VRM Bridge
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01-02-2021 02:11 AM #467
Braegnok PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XII Extreme Processor Intel Core i9-10900K Memory (part number) F4-3600C14D-32GTRS Graphics Card #1 Nvidia RTX 3090 FE Monitor Asus ROG Swift PG35VQ Storage #1 Samsung 970 Pro CPU Cooler Custom Water Case TT A700 TG Power Supply Seasonic SSR-1000TR Keyboard Das Keyboard 4 Ultimate Mouse G502 Lightspeed Headset SteelSeries Arctis Pro OS Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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@n1kobg, my memory voltage is 1.45V, is shown as DRAM on HWiNFO64 Sensor Status above CPU VCCIO.
Thanks for the advice.
This 4200MHz profile is going to be my 24/7 settings, going for the lowest voltages possible with 100% stability.
I will be working on other higher MHz profiles later,.. which voltages are of no concern, only performance #s and stable enough to post a screen shot.
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01-02-2021 02:39 AM #468
Braegnok PC Specs Motherboard Asus ROG Maximus XII Extreme Processor Intel Core i9-10900K Memory (part number) F4-3600C14D-32GTRS Graphics Card #1 Nvidia RTX 3090 FE Monitor Asus ROG Swift PG35VQ Storage #1 Samsung 970 Pro CPU Cooler Custom Water Case TT A700 TG Power Supply Seasonic SSR-1000TR Keyboard Das Keyboard 4 Ultimate Mouse G502 Lightspeed Headset SteelSeries Arctis Pro OS Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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I have been following the Guide you posted 12-16-2020 11:23 PM post #422 on this thread.
The Guide lists tRFC & tREFI as third step, with Primary Timings being second step ?
I am getting conflicting information,.. lol
Going to stick with the Guide, and keep plugging along.
Not all motherboards react the same, as with memory modules also different results are common.
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01-04-2021 05:29 AM #469
morph. PC Specs Laptop (Model) MacBook Pro 13" i5, Surface Pro X Motherboard ROG Maximus XII Formula Processor Intel® Core™ i9-10850K @5.2Ghz Memory (part number) G.SKILL F4-3600C14D-32GTRS (2x16) @4400MHz 17-18-18-37 Graphics Card #1 ROG Strix RTX3090oc Monitor ROG Swift PG279Q Storage #1 Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB NVMe CPU Cooler EK Quantum Velocity Nickel Plexi 2x PE360 Radiators Case Lian Li PC-O11DXL-W Power Supply Corsair AX1000 Keyboard SteelSeries Apex Pro Mouse Final Mouse Air58 - Cherry Headset SteelSeries Arctis Pro Wireless Mouse Pad ROG Sheath BLK LTD OS Windows 10 Pro Network Router Billion BiPAC 8800AXL Accessory #1 EK Quantum Vector Strix Waterblock Accessory #2 EK Classic Side DP DDC3.2 Accessory #3 EK Quantum Momentum VRM Bridge
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tRFC & tREFI generate a fair bit of heat, especially from a long run high-temperature stability stand point.
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01-04-2021 09:44 AM #470
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tRFC and tREFI are related to refreshes, tREFI being the average interval between refreshes and tRFC being the time until next command after a refresh. A refresh hits all banks, rows and columns with voltage (and thus heat), so increasing the time interval between refreshes leads to less power generated.
They are sensitive to heat (data integrity degrades faster at high heat) but they do not increase heat generation, if anything increased tREFI reduces heat.