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    Quote Originally Posted by james702283 View Post
    Yeah it is utterly ridiculous at this point. The regular Crosshair hero has had it out for a week and the more expensive WiFi version, nothing. Go figure!
    This is strange why does every other X570 board get a bios update and we continue to wait? Does Wifi really make that much difference? did they just forget to upload the Bios for the CH8W?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top3koms View Post
    This is strange why does every other X570 board get a bios update and we continue to wait? Does Wifi really make that much difference? did they just forget to upload the Bios for the CH8W?
    I have the 2101 for ch8w, not sure why it matters when it posted offically. If you really cared you would have loaded the test bios, would you not ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAOWAce View Post
    Finally a new BIOS.. and probably zero change to memory support after all my attempted inquiries to customer support trying to get them to forward my SPD dumps to the engineering team to support my memory that's been working just fine in an Intel board for the last 5 years..

    Guess I'll have to subject myself to testing the new BIOS, and reconfiguring everything after it fails to POST and fails to reload numerous settings from the profile system, because ASUS just can't get that fixed either.
    Finally tested all these weeks later.

    Absolutely zero changes to memory support.

    Instead, they completely changed the entire BIOS internals causing all old profiles to be invalid (if attempting to load, it would set blank or incorrect values), requiring full manual reconfiguration of every single setting. For some reason, it didn't also wipe the old profiles, despite them being incompatible. AFAIK you can't downgrade from this version.

    There doesn't seem to be an out for me. I'm out the money I spent on this board (and the AM4 platform) and ASUS support has refused to listen to my inquires after half a year. The only option is wasting even more money on replacement RAM, replace the Mobo and hope a different one has proper support, or suffering degraded performance until DDR5 is available with a new platform.

    Where's Raja when you need him?
    I don't mean to sound rude, but I can't help the way people interpret my words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAOWAce View Post
    Finally tested all these weeks later.

    Absolutely zero changes to memory support.

    Instead, they completely changed the entire BIOS internals causing all old profiles to be invalid (if attempting to load, it would set blank or incorrect values), requiring full manual reconfiguration of every single setting. For some reason, it didn't also wipe the old profiles, despite them being incompatible. AFAIK you can't downgrade from this version.

    There doesn't seem to be an out for me. I'm out the money I spent on this board (and the AM4 platform) and ASUS support has refused to listen to my inquires after half a year. The only option is wasting even more money on replacement RAM, replace the Mobo and hope a different one has proper support, or suffering degraded performance until DDR5 is available with a new platform.

    Where's Raja when you need him?
    Why don't you just learn how to configure your RAM yourself? It's free of charge, no money involved. Just takes a few reboots and a couple of clear cmos to find the right settings. You even have a Clear Cmos button on the backpanel.

    I run G.Skill memory explicitly made for Intel, it's B-die but they where made before Ryzen even existed. Some trial and error and I run stable at 3800MHz with 60GB/s bandwith and 64ns latency on 1.36V.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xeizo View Post
    Why don't you just learn how to configure your RAM yourself? It's free of charge, no money involved. Just takes a few reboots and a couple of clear cmos to find the right settings. You even have a Clear Cmos button on the backpanel.

    I run G.Skill memory explicitly made for Intel, it's B-die but they where made before Ryzen even existed. Some trial and error and I run stable at 3800MHz with 60GB/s bandwith and 64ns latency on 1.36V.
    I wonder if I have the same B-die Trident's (minus the RGB) made like u said before Ryzen existed.
    Mine are 16-18-18-38-56 3200@1.35V.
    I was playing with it like upping the freq to 3600 with various timings without success.
    IF your sticks are 3200, could you please share your timings?

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    Mine are 3600 17-19-19-19-39-58 / 1.35V ( F4-3600C17-16GTZR ), chips are K4A8G085WB-BCPB 8 Gb B-die (20 nm) / 1 die. PCB is double sided (dual rank).

    And this is what I run

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    Proc ODT is 36.9, all CAD BUS DrvStren are 24 Ohm, the few remaining settings on Auto

    SOC is 1.075V, VDIMM is 1.36V, CLDO VDDP is 900mV and CLDO VDDG is 950mV
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    Ah, unreachable for my memories.
    Mine are @3200.
    Thanx man.

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