Results 1 to 5 of 5
  1. #1
    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array Veovis PC Specs
    Veovis PC Specs
    Laptop (Model)Eluktronics N131WU
    MotherboardROG Stirx X570-I gaming
    ProcessorRyzen 3950X
    Memory (part number)CMK64GX4M2E3200C16
    Graphics Card #1Asus strix 1080 A8G
    Graphics Card #2Radeon Navi FE edition
    Sound CardCreative SoundBlaster x7
    MonitorMassdrop VAST
    Storage #1Samsung 850 Evo 1tb
    Storage #22 x Seagate Desktop SSHD ST4000DX001 4TB 64MB Cache
    CPU CoolerArctic liquid Freezer II 120 Liquid Cooling System
    CaseGamerstorm Tristellar
    Power SupplySeasonic PRIME titanium 650
    Keyboard Massdrop ALT keyboard
    Mouse Logitech G602 Mouse
    Headset Sennheiser HD58x Julibee
    Mouse Pad Laser megamat
    Headset/Speakers Creative SoundBlaster x7
    OS Windows 10 pro 64bit
    Network RouterNighthawk 8x
    Accessory #1 Blue Mic
    Accessory #2 Logitech Brio
    Accessory #3 AVEGANT GLYPH
    Veovis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Reputation
    27
    Posts
    156

    Wrong fan choice and correction

    Hi Rog,

    After refreshing the TIM on my graphics card and cpu, I noticed the performance was much more stable however in a few hours the computer would heat up back to its top temperature and I realized why.

    My Radiator fan is the Noctua NF-S12A-25 which means high airflow but low static pressure. While it's usually pretty quiet it sucks (pun intended) at moving heat from the radiator. This is where my dilemma comes into play as I don't have much experience in fans:

    Would it be better for me to get 2 NF-a12-15's for a PUSH PULL configuration through the radiator, a single NF-A12-25 (A highly recommended sweet spot that might not be best for this case due to no direct vent exit for heat), a single NF-F12-25 for acoustics and better single fan performance (no idea if 2 NF-a12-15's static pressure has a diminishing return higher than this one fan) or a Noctua NF-F12 iPPC 3000 PWM (Throws acoustics out the window but has very high static pressure)

    This is going in to the GamerStorm Tristellar case, so there's only 80mm of clearance. Putting 2 25mm tall fans on a single 38mm 120 Rad (which is the only one that will fit in the case) would exceed that. Also positioning will be key as this fan has to pull the air through a magnetic mesh filter and Push/pull through the radiator.

    I'm leaning towards the iPPC for maximum performance but it can get as loud as 43.5 DB vs my current 17.8. Next up is the 2-15's as the 2 double teaming can compensate for the pressure needed for the mesh and through the radiator, plus be quiet as the work is essentially "halved"

    Currently with the one "silent" fan I have there's only 17 mm of clearance to push the air as it leaves the radiator. Getting 2-15's would make it 12mm... and going one 25 and one 15 would only leave 2 mm which would probably just make a new problem as the air would need to squeeze out the gap and blow over the motherboard (Probably cause whistling or some kind of whooshing noise)

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
    Last edited by Veovis; 06-30-2020 at 06:18 AM.

  2. #2
    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array Veovis PC Specs
    Veovis PC Specs
    Laptop (Model)Eluktronics N131WU
    MotherboardROG Stirx X570-I gaming
    ProcessorRyzen 3950X
    Memory (part number)CMK64GX4M2E3200C16
    Graphics Card #1Asus strix 1080 A8G
    Graphics Card #2Radeon Navi FE edition
    Sound CardCreative SoundBlaster x7
    MonitorMassdrop VAST
    Storage #1Samsung 850 Evo 1tb
    Storage #22 x Seagate Desktop SSHD ST4000DX001 4TB 64MB Cache
    CPU CoolerArctic liquid Freezer II 120 Liquid Cooling System
    CaseGamerstorm Tristellar
    Power SupplySeasonic PRIME titanium 650
    Keyboard Massdrop ALT keyboard
    Mouse Logitech G602 Mouse
    Headset Sennheiser HD58x Julibee
    Mouse Pad Laser megamat
    Headset/Speakers Creative SoundBlaster x7
    OS Windows 10 pro 64bit
    Network RouterNighthawk 8x
    Accessory #1 Blue Mic
    Accessory #2 Logitech Brio
    Accessory #3 AVEGANT GLYPH
    Veovis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Reputation
    27
    Posts
    156

    Re-thinking about it, I probably want the two slim fans in push pull. The main reason is that the air still has to flow out of the case once it pushes through the radiator.

    Having a only a pull causes a weird suction issue where the fan can't optimally push as if it was unrestricted. And having only a push causes some restriction after the radiator, given that there only one place to mount the fan/aio radiator and that's the inlet/ or outlet for the board, and these radiator fans have to push air out of the case as well as take it in, this configuration is probably "best" for airflow, acoustics and static pressure for this case setup.

  3. #3
    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array Veovis PC Specs
    Veovis PC Specs
    Laptop (Model)Eluktronics N131WU
    MotherboardROG Stirx X570-I gaming
    ProcessorRyzen 3950X
    Memory (part number)CMK64GX4M2E3200C16
    Graphics Card #1Asus strix 1080 A8G
    Graphics Card #2Radeon Navi FE edition
    Sound CardCreative SoundBlaster x7
    MonitorMassdrop VAST
    Storage #1Samsung 850 Evo 1tb
    Storage #22 x Seagate Desktop SSHD ST4000DX001 4TB 64MB Cache
    CPU CoolerArctic liquid Freezer II 120 Liquid Cooling System
    CaseGamerstorm Tristellar
    Power SupplySeasonic PRIME titanium 650
    Keyboard Massdrop ALT keyboard
    Mouse Logitech G602 Mouse
    Headset Sennheiser HD58x Julibee
    Mouse Pad Laser megamat
    Headset/Speakers Creative SoundBlaster x7
    OS Windows 10 pro 64bit
    Network RouterNighthawk 8x
    Accessory #1 Blue Mic
    Accessory #2 Logitech Brio
    Accessory #3 AVEGANT GLYPH
    Veovis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Reputation
    27
    Posts
    156

    Update: only one 15mm high fan was in stock, so Ill test it with the current high airflow fan to see if this combo will work. The only real drawback is the 2mm clearance. But if it works I'll have decent static pressure going into the radiator and high airflow out. Since this airflow also passes over the motherboard, it could help cool that down as well.

  4. #4
    TeamROG Moderator Array xeromist PC Specs
    xeromist PC Specs
    Laptop (Model)Dell Inspiron 15 7567
    MotherboardMSI x470 Gaming Plus
    ProcessorAMD 2600X
    Memory (part number)16GB Crucial Ballistix Elite 3600
    Graphics Card #1ASUS GTX 1080 Strix
    MonitorBenQ BL3200PT
    Storage #1Intel 600p NVMe
    CPU CoolerWraith
    Casecustom Antec 900
    Power SupplyCorsair HX1000
    Keyboard Logitech Orion Spark
    Mouse Logitech MX500
    Headset Plantronics 777 with Oregon Aero upgrade
    xeromist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Reputation
    318
    Posts
    7,722

    How much of a problem are you having? High air flow fans should be OK at 100%. Where they start to suffer is when you lower speeds. High SP fans might be marginally better but not dramatically so. If you are seeing overheating you likely have another issue. Perhaps not enough radiator surface, air or crud in the loop, too much voltage, etc.
    * Support disease research with Folding@Home *

    < < < Click the drop-down above my avatar for my PC specs!

  5. #5
    ROG Guru: Yellow Belt Array Veovis PC Specs
    Veovis PC Specs
    Laptop (Model)Eluktronics N131WU
    MotherboardROG Stirx X570-I gaming
    ProcessorRyzen 3950X
    Memory (part number)CMK64GX4M2E3200C16
    Graphics Card #1Asus strix 1080 A8G
    Graphics Card #2Radeon Navi FE edition
    Sound CardCreative SoundBlaster x7
    MonitorMassdrop VAST
    Storage #1Samsung 850 Evo 1tb
    Storage #22 x Seagate Desktop SSHD ST4000DX001 4TB 64MB Cache
    CPU CoolerArctic liquid Freezer II 120 Liquid Cooling System
    CaseGamerstorm Tristellar
    Power SupplySeasonic PRIME titanium 650
    Keyboard Massdrop ALT keyboard
    Mouse Logitech G602 Mouse
    Headset Sennheiser HD58x Julibee
    Mouse Pad Laser megamat
    Headset/Speakers Creative SoundBlaster x7
    OS Windows 10 pro 64bit
    Network RouterNighthawk 8x
    Accessory #1 Blue Mic
    Accessory #2 Logitech Brio
    Accessory #3 AVEGANT GLYPH
    Veovis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Reputation
    27
    Posts
    156

    Exclamation

    That's the problem. I'm locked in with this case. The Tristellar is all looks and some function. Essentially its taken the traditional case design and segmented it into 3 separate chambers. One with the PSU and 5inch hard drive bays. Another with the GPU and 3 2.5 sata bays, and the last with one 120mm cutout and the motherboard.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	1205615671-1.jpg 
Views:	0 
Size:	109.0 KB 
ID:	85516

    I can't do anything much about loop crud with the aio, nor increase surface area as there's only one mount for the 120mm radiator/fan combo. As for voltage that's being managed by the asus software which is still running hotter due to not enough airflow being provided over the board from that single inlet.

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •