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07-11-2020 06:18 PM #1
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[RYZEN 3700][Crosshair VIII Formula] Wich temperature should i trust ?
Hello,
Ii've a strange problem, different tools are showing different t° for the CPU as shown in the attached files...
I've also a big difference between the CPU and CPU Package ...
Do you know who we should trust ?
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07-12-2020 07:21 AM #2
GObonzo PC Specs Motherboard ROG Strix Z370-E Gaming Processor i7-8700K @5GHz Memory (part number) G.Skill F4-3200C14D-16GTZSW Graphics Card #1 EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 GAMING Monitor Alienware AW3420DW (34" 3440x1440p) Storage #1 M.2 NVMe: 512GB \ SSDs: 5.25TB Storage #2 external - HDs: 8TB CPU Cooler ROG Ryujin 360 Case Fractal Design Vector RS (5x be quiet! Silent Wings 3 140mm High-Speed PWM) Power Supply be quiet! DARK POWER PRO 11 750W Keyboard Corsair K70 LUX RGB — CHERRY® MX RGB Brown Mouse LG G600, Corsair Vengeance M95 Headset Corsair Void Surround OS Win10 x64 Pro
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i've had the same issue with my ASUS Z370 ever since i first started it up.
my BIOS, Core Temp, EVGA's Flow Control, AI Suite, RTSS, almost every software I've used and now my Ryujin 360 CPU cooler's OLED display all show slightly different temp readings for my CPU.
i've pretty much just learned to live with it and keep an average idea of what the temps actually are by viewing multiple sources.
right now Core Temp is showing 36° for the average temp while my CPU OLED display is showing 32°. so I figure it's ~34°.ASUS Strix ROG Z370-E Gaming | i7-8700K \ ASUS ROG Ryujin 360 | G. Skill Trident Z 3200 CL14 2x 8GB | EVGA FTW3 1080 Ti | be quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 750w | M.2 480GB \ SSD: 5.25TB \ HDD: 8TB | Fractal Design Vector RS \ 5x be quiet! Silent Wings 3 140mm High-Speed PWM | Alienware AW3420DW | Logitech G600 | Corsair K70 LUX RGB | Xbox One S Gamepad | Corsair Void Surround
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07-13-2020 12:46 PM #3
RedSector73 PC Specs Laptop (Model) FA506IU-AL130T x 2 Motherboard ROG CROSSHAIR VIII HERO (WI-FI) Processor AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor Memory (part number) 4 x G.SKILL F4-3800C14D-16GTZN 14-16-16-36 Samsung B-Die Graphics Card #1 Gigabyte Aorus RTX 2080 Ti Xtreme WaterForce (GV-N208TAORUSX W-11GC) Sound Card Arctis DAC Monitor Asus ROG Swift PG348Q Storage #1 ADATA SX8200PNP 1TB Storage #2 2 x Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB CPU Cooler Coolermaster Liquid Pro Master 360 Case EVGA DG-87 Gunmetal Grey Gaming Case Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W Gold Power Keyboard Corsair K95 RGB Platinum Mouse Corsair Gaming Sabre RGB Gaming Mouse Headset ARCTIS Pro Wireless Mouse Pad Cooler Master MP750 RGB Cloth Gaming Mouse Pad Extra Large OS Windows 10 64bit Pro Network Router RT-AC87U
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Ryzen 3000 series CPU's change clocks speeds quite a lot over time (in some cases 100 of times per second) and all these programs poll temperatures captured at different times and polling, and are only displaying exactly what was captured at the polling, and as such are a display of true information but as you rightly notice it varies a lot over the poll times becuase of the nature of the CPU. This is normal to see and not a problem. If your CPU is not near maximum thermal limits, than dont worry and stop using multiple sources to poll this information, stick to one your happy with, they are all right, but equally all wrong when you compare them to each other becuase none of them are polling at the exact same time.
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07-14-2020 01:34 AM #4
Super Gnome PC Specs Motherboard ROG Rampage VI Extreme Omega / ROG Crosshair VIII Formula Processor Intel® Core™ i9-9980XE / AMD 3950x Memory (part number) Corsair LPX Vengeance DDR4 2666MHz 128 GB / Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB DDR4-3200 32GB DDR4 3200MH Graphics Card #1 Asus 2080 Turbo / Asus 2080 ti Turbo Graphics Card #2 Asus 2080 Turbo / Asus 2080 ti Turbo Monitor JAPANNEXT JN-VT500UHD 4K 50-inch LCD Storage #1 Crucial MX500 1 TB / Sabient SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-500 Storage #2 Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / ADATA XPG SX5500 Pro 3D NAND NVMe Gen3x4 PCIe M.2 CPU Cooler ROG Ryujin 360 / NZXT Kraken X62 Case Thermaltake View 71 TG / Thermaltake View 31 Power Supply CORSAIR AXi Series, AX1600i 1600 watt / Thermaltake Toughpower iRGB 1200 watt Accessory #1 Noctua 140mm 3000 RPM x 4 / Noctua 140 mm 3000 RPM x 2 Accessory #2 Gigabyte GC-A 2WAY NVLINK RGB (3-slot) / ROG NVLINK Bridge 3-Slot A
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It's your Ryujin that is basically giving you a false number. The number the Ryujin displays is taken from a probe behind the CPU, so it's not really trustworthy.
This guy goes into depth about it. You can watch the whole video, or from just around the 15:00 mark where he gets specific.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wS0Ev3SX2I
Honestly, I don't think you can go wrong trusting the highest one is the one to watch. In other words in regards to high temperature readings you are best off erring on the side of caution.
On an aside, I do not trust Asus software so I run HWMonitor virtually whenever my computers are running. I had one case where I had installed a new Asus Bios (others had the same problem) and had it at all default settings and the fans (including Ryujin fans) were not doing anything to cool the CPU which ranged from 72 at idle and into the nineties with a moderate load (that's degrees C, not F). Of course I reverted to a prior Bios as did others--which got the temperatures back to normal, but since then I turn HWMonitor on at startup and always review it before shut downs. Not to mention monitoring it regularly.Last edited by Super Gnome; 07-14-2020 at 01:46 AM.
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07-30-2020 06:48 PM #5
GObonzo PC Specs Motherboard ROG Strix Z370-E Gaming Processor i7-8700K @5GHz Memory (part number) G.Skill F4-3200C14D-16GTZSW Graphics Card #1 EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 GAMING Monitor Alienware AW3420DW (34" 3440x1440p) Storage #1 M.2 NVMe: 512GB \ SSDs: 5.25TB Storage #2 external - HDs: 8TB CPU Cooler ROG Ryujin 360 Case Fractal Design Vector RS (5x be quiet! Silent Wings 3 140mm High-Speed PWM) Power Supply be quiet! DARK POWER PRO 11 750W Keyboard Corsair K70 LUX RGB — CHERRY® MX RGB Brown Mouse LG G600, Corsair Vengeance M95 Headset Corsair Void Surround OS Win10 x64 Pro
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currently RTSS, HWMonitor, Flow Control all show temps matching the Ryujin's display while Ai Suite, Precision X1, & Core Temp readings are each varying between 2-5° degrees higher as usual.
whether some guy in some video says so or not, i would trust an average of them all more so than any single source.ASUS Strix ROG Z370-E Gaming | i7-8700K \ ASUS ROG Ryujin 360 | G. Skill Trident Z 3200 CL14 2x 8GB | EVGA FTW3 1080 Ti | be quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 750w | M.2 480GB \ SSD: 5.25TB \ HDD: 8TB | Fractal Design Vector RS \ 5x be quiet! Silent Wings 3 140mm High-Speed PWM | Alienware AW3420DW | Logitech G600 | Corsair K70 LUX RGB | Xbox One S Gamepad | Corsair Void Surround